Never heard of it and it's most likely not regulated by any UK authority. I'd avoid it.

It's p2p with escrow, apparently. So if you can work out how to make a transaction...

The lack of regulation is the point.

Hi Rux

It is not that hard, make sure you read all the FAQs and docs first.

Essentially you make a purchase offer aimed at a specific seller, he sends the crypto and it is held by hodl until he receives your payment at which point they release it.

So yes it is protected by escrow.

BBDoom got me hip onto it.

And yes as you said the lack of regulation is the point.

I am fed up with being taxed trying to raise a quick buck or getting on with my life so as I said many times if I am correct the Taxman is going to AI the hell out of the data sent by UK exchanges come January.

If they do there will be pain the same way than what happened to all those families who saw their child benefits withdrawn unjustly: the taxman is now using AI like it's a magic wand so there'll be no escaping being reported.

You reckon UK can get hold of p2p accounts for taxman? Any idea of the best exchanges to move to which aren't regulated by the UK?

I found using HODL HODL pretty good you get to chat to the seller, the rules just state make sure you wait for the minimum amount of confirmations, incase your eager, before releasing your money as you have the option to release it with your key, once the crypto or money is confirmed in the escrow you can release your side, if anything happens there is a process for retrieval although within a timeframe.
It's the way forward and how crypto should work, decentralised exchanges between 2 parties without a 3rd party overseeing it, bring it on AI!

Hi DiamondExtracts

Actually that is exactly why I used it.

If I am correct after Xmas Biggas will be desperate to be able to buy BTCs without it being reported to the Taxman.

Never used that site before but the best practice is always to meet in person and do the exchange on the spot. If you're paying by card etc they all have your personal detail so best is to do it for cash in person.

I couldn't work out how to sort out my first transaction on there. Any advice appreciated.

Hi incheyeg

I've just used it this month.

It is safe to use as Hodl holds the BTCs until the seller receives your payment and they then release them into your wallet.

Just read everything on the site and make sure you pick a seller with good feedback.

Anytime next year there will probably be many of us biggas using it and similar ones like bisq.
Good Luck!

I ve signed up and it’s early days but if anyone can explain in a nutshell how this works that would be great. Normally I buy btc on cb, then send to exodus wallet and from there send btc to seller/ vendor. What are the steps on hodl? Thanks

Hi Cheeching

I forgot the exact steps because I only used it once but it was not that difficult.

I had to create an account and then install an app called 2FAS Auth (like an MFA app) to authenticate using my phone.

Check the FAQ etc and you should get the hang of it.

Ok thanks. Yep I’ve set the authentication up, what I don’t get are the steps they provide on the signed in home page, setting up a contract and then something about the seller, not buyer, releasing coin etc, just sounds confusing. Might experiment with a smaller order. Definitely would warrant a good post on this for the community once someone knows the ins and outs of this. Think quite a few would be interested in some kind of quick guide….

I couldn't work it out mate and gave up in the end. I'd definitely be interested in some idiot's guide, especially as I don't generally think I'm an idiot, and following complex information is something I regularly do and have limited issues with. Trading on this was beyond me, however.

Think I have figured it. So you simply buy on hodl and then set the btc address to receive it as your own personal wallet, from wallet you do the usual send for lb transaction . The question for me is what payment method to choose, a lot of them still seem to be traceable

It's the 'simply buy' part that was my main issue mate... Transfers are as traceable, but it's p2p, so there's no exchange to grass you up?

Actually there is gift crd option

I thought that was the point, for your money to be untraceable using an option like above?

I will have to give this a try, not sure I understand the complication until i do

Hi Cheeching

Sorry I've used it once last month so I do not remember the exact steps.

Contact any seller you have in mind first to OK the payment method though.

The only BTCs which will be released are those held by hodlhodl until your payment reaches the seller.

Good Luck!

Think I have figured it. So you simply buy on hodl and then set the btc address to receive it as your own personal wallet, from wallet you do the usual send for lb transaction . The question for me is what payment method to choose, a lot of them still seem to be traceable

Found some options but lb isn’t letting me send this general info

have you got links fot these please. always scared to google soemthing like this and end up on the wrong site lol

hodlhodl.com

this is amazing thanks

Yeah why not, open the shop up buddy!

At this time of year mate I'd advise using T24 or SNDD as those services are tracked and (hopefully) less likely to go missing with the huge increase in Christmas temp staff. Really light parcels could be money, not just drugs, and they do have an increased tendency to go missing at this time of year.

The questipn was t24 vs special sat delivery.
Ive not used 1st class for a vry long time, my fav is t24.
I remember reading special ndd parcels are kept apart from the mountains of other parcels.

You roll the dice with those options so close to a weekend, especially at Christmas. T24 is the only service that turns up on a a Sunday, and the first time that happened it freaked me out. I'd say SNDD was the most 'secure' option though, as I believe they're usually handled separately.

As mentioned by Cannabis Cannibals though, the stealth is a vendor issue, this just moves things through the system as quickly as possible, which has to be a good thing.

Good point Rux, glad i took sat delivery, was just worried it would stick out more being sent with the most premium service. Guess that may be rhe case usually but not so much this time of year.

I don't think it makes any difference as long as the sender pack it properly. Stealth is down to the sender not royal mail.

I always use T24 having said that I've had two in the last week that have both not had the scan leaving the post office so have end up taking longer and not shown up on the tracking until the day of delivery, but as mentioned below the volume at this time of year is insane so issues happen regardless.

I've used it a lot over the years to help reset my sleep patterns around shift work, and found it varies in effectiveness depending on the brand, as well as the dose. High doses don't work well for me. Best is a brand called Vitafusion who do a product called SleepWell. It's formulated with 3mg per 2 gummies, and it was so effective for me that I'd find myself drifting off to sleep without trying. No other dose or brand ever did that. Still available from a popular auction site, and I've never had any stopped by customs.

Yes it's now prescription only, and what you're getting is obviously a controlled, pharmacological version of a bio-available / plant-based form.

I've been using it for years due to diagnosed circadian rhythm disturbance and generally many years of poor sleep. Overall I've found it very helpful in helping me maintain a fairly consistent sleep wake cycle. I'm only using a very small dose, just 2mcg / mg.

However, I've recently started using a plant melatonin called Herbatonin at a 0.3mg dose so even lower than my prescription and it's as good if not better. I bought three months supply of the Symphony brand online for around £13. Maybe give that a go if it's within your reach and see how it suits.

At some point I'd like to not have to use it at all but I live with chronic illness so it's a bit tricky right now, but it'll happen when it happens. A decent amount of sufficient quality sleep is so crucial for health. I think many of us underestimate that. The "I'll sleep when I'm dead" crew may be reaching that point sooner than they think! 😱

There are some folks out there mega-dosing for all manner of health-related reasons, up to 100mg daily!!!!!!!!!!

Did absolutely nothing for me. Can’t believe it now needs a scrip🙄. Microdose Xanax still the best sleep aid imo, no negatives. That or Unicorn 🦄 Piss from Canadian Imports 🤤😴

xanax really strikes me as a wrong turn for stoners

Yeah mental it requires a prescription now - some further reading tells me that most Drs are reluctant to prescribe it, so probs not a viable route anyway. Obv can pick it up elsewhere thanks to the internet but from sounds of things, might be a bit bunk.

Microdosing Xanax carefully sounds interesting, can see how that one might work, just enough to send you off without giving yourself a dependence problem. Have tried Valium once or twice before as a post rave sleep aid - magic blue off buttons! I should note this definitely was one-off/emergency usage only, never regular (just a health warning for the benefit of anybody else reading - very easy to get hooked on benzos and very difficult to come off, from seeing ppl close to me who’ve developed a benzo addiction. Very nasty physical withdrawal symptoms)

And thanks for the tip on the unicorn piss! Ha yeah don’t usually do carts to keep tolerance down but might have to resort to a nice strong one to send me off for the night - heard some very good things about CI’s stuff, definitely keeping that one in mind 👌

Totally agree with your comments mate. I find with sleep aids the less you use them the better they work. Tolerance builds so quickly. I take 0.25mg (or less) of Xanax possibly twice a week if I’m wide awake in the middle of the night with a least 4 hours to go until I need to get up. Always works and I wake up very refreshed. Taken nightly it would stop working in a couple of weeks and knowing that means I have no incentive to increase dose or frequency.

I occasionally treat myself to a hit of the 🦄 at bedtime. Fall asleep with a big grin on my face!🤗

That sounds v regimented and sensible usage 👌 gives your body enough time to get it out your system too.

Those carts sound lush tbf, just been reading the posts from other peeps on CIs page - face meltingly good sleepy times all around from the sounds of things!! Very good price too, will check em out some point 👍

I bought about 1000 blue diazepam decades ago, and I took them all. That was a very unproductive number of months. Lovely with a G&T on a Sunday afternoon I found. Be careful not to kill yourself, obviously.

Useful tip at the end there Ruxxy😉👍

I used melatonin on and off for a few years. Making it prescription only is a bit over the top, but good for Big Pharma.

The only problem with melatonin is that it's a natural hormone we produce. So if you supplement with it too long, your body will make less.

Also, the trigger for your body to start releasing melatonin is darkness. So if you're using your phone or watching TV before sleep, you're body is not releasing it's own melatonin.

Red filters will help a lot, as it's the blue light that triggers our brain to wake up. It takes some time...30-45 minutes for me.

If I need help besides the filter I've added to my phone, I take a small THC edible.

Good luck, bad sleep is a serious problem. I have sleep apnea, where I stop breathing while asleep. You might want to check on that before you only self medicate.

My sleep got a LOT better when I started using a CPAP machine that keeps me breathing at night.

So please check with a doctor about that, it is life threatening.

I find it very useful for sleep when I'm taking a t-break.

I’ve tried melatonin gummies in the past. They worked great but used to get bad headaches the following day.
I also read that long term use can cause rebound insomnia so I quit.

My autistic kid is prescribed a low dose. It’s changed our lives.

melatonin defintley do the trick at helping you get to sleep but not so great for helping you stay asleep. great for a nap or if you redose half way through the night.

valerian root are good too and tend to keep you out longer.

please do not go down the benzos route as a long term solution (xanax & Valium) the withdrawals can be harsher than H

Got some melatonin gummies while in Europe similar to what Rux mentioned.
May have helped with relaxation but may have exacerbated my restless legs.

A lot of these dicks are elected in the beginning and that's on us.

We need to realise we are the dictators ;-)

Ah, you wish to topple a single tyrant? A charmingly bourgeois sentiment, but you mistake the symptom for the disease. A dictator is merely the guard dog for capital; replacing him with a committee in suits just means you’re getting bitten by a pack instead of a lone wolf. You don't get rid of the problem by changing the manager, you must seize the entire factory for yourselves! Let the workers unite and take the economic levers of power. Honestly, anything less is just redecorating your own prison cell, and the color scheme is always so dreadful.

If the whole country stopped working there entire system will crash

G'wan Norn Iron!

I think we can't. Don't take me wrong but some countries needs dictators. That's how it is. Unfortunately...

Call out such apologists, here and at the pub, the school gate, the office: laugh at their ‘he’s a stabilising force’ nonsense—tyrants thrive when decent people let garbage go unchallenged.

Vote for the bugger who won’t pretend selling arms to murderers is ‘realism’—and if none exist, stand outside their constituency office with a placard until they learn to be brave.

You’re not ‘just’ anything: you’re the nuisance that makes the powerful flinch, and that’s how thugs fall—one stubborn, unignorable act at a time.

These fucks are selected not elected.

We get rid of them using 5d chess.
This earth is doomed, we aint voting ourselves out of it.
Know yourself, know your soul and understand where it came from and where its going.
We are the ones living in the dark ages, our whole history is a complete lie.
Tartaria was destroyed, were in satans timeline now, all fake all gay.
Jesus is God.

jesus seems kinda gay and he surely was not hateful like this

Make no peace with evil

Peace of shit

please hear me out one minute,
i like homosexuals and folks that go anyway they like.
however im against the agenda of the political industrial complex pushing it on folks, children also.
its just a modern saying 'everything now is fake and gay'
im not talking about homosexuals or any such sort.
personally i know God looks down up on such things, but to each their own, my friends.
i have, have had and will have many gay friends, im not a hater.
i appreciate you folks here.
hope we're cool, take care.

Gut health and brain health are linked in a bunch of ways, I've been reading a bit about it, there's millions of nerves connecting the gut and brain, the gut is producing most of our serotonin which directly affects our moods, they've linked poor gut health to Alzheimer's and possibly other mental health conditions recently too so there's more than a few direct connections.

I read about the vagus nerve and what it does, it's like a little caretaker for our whole nervous system, regulating everything, that can be damaged by stomach ulcers and when damaged can cause all sorts of problems, I guess i'm wondering with all these direct links between gut and brain whether we're actually feeling something that's sending very real signals but signals we don't understand properly?

...or I might've just smoked too much, its possible, the bong has been out!

Ah, my dear biggaz, let’s embark on a whimsical journey into the realms of the gut and the mysterious phenomenon of premonition, shall we? Now, picture this: your gut, that marvellous little organ, is not just a mere digestive powerhouse. No, no! It’s a veritable hub of intuition, a second brain, if you will.

You see, the gut is lined with what we call the enteric nervous system, which is a complex network of neurons that communicates with the brain. This connection, my friends, is more profound than we often realise. It’s as if your belly is whispering secrets to your mind, guiding you through the murky waters of existence. When we talk about premonition, we’re often delving into that uncanny ability to sense what’s coming — a sort of psychic foresight, if you like.

Now, imagine your gut reacting to stimuli before your conscious mind has had the chance to process it. Ever had that feeling in your stomach before a big event, like a wedding, or perhaps a precarious encounter with a person you’re not quite sure about? That’s your gut’s way of alerting you, a signal that something’s afoot! It’s a primal response, honed over millennia, an evolutionary gift that keeps us attuned to danger or opportunity.

So, in essence, when we talk about premonition, we’re tapping into that raw, instinctual knowledge that our bodies possess. The gut is like a finely tuned instrument, picking up vibrations from the universe, translating them into feelings, sensations, and sometimes — just sometimes — a flash of insight about what’s to come. Listen to it, my darlings! Your gut may just be your most trusted oracle, steering you through the unpredictable tides of life with a knowing nod and a cheeky wink.

In conclusion, the gut and premonition are intertwined in a dance of intuition and instinct. So, next time you feel a flutter in your belly, remember: it could be the universe whispering its secrets, urging you to pay attention. Embrace it, and let the gut guide you!

This happened to me so many times. It always freaked me out, when I would think back to it and that flutter feeling, right before whatever happened after it.

Bro got them shroom bars

It truly is the solar plexus chakra ;)

I think it's your limbic system, that connects your heart and stomach to your brain. Heart felt feelings, gut feelings.
I might be wrong!

gut rhymes with butt, do i need to say more?

It truly is the solar plexus chakra ;)

I guess when you are younger you not realising that...
But yeah definitely there is something there, probably connection to our cannabinoid system.

football season, then i would only know hope

Know that feeling. Lol.

I love all the seasons.. just get a bit fed up towards the end of each of them. 🤷‍♂️

I'd lovely to hibernate for about 4 months through winter, I dream of this evolution 🤣

Would it be right to call the pandemic a season? If yes, then the pandemic, wake me up when the Flower Power era returns!

Summer! I love it but hate it at the same time. I'd rather wrap up to keep warm then try and keep cool!

Christmas I can't stand it lol

Christmas can't stand it bah humbug lol

Winter, always cold, gets dark early and snow which looks nice don't get me wrong but just turns into ice or slush after a while

Summer, I hate having sticky balls

Hi zeppomarx

Technically you can only hibernate in Winter (form the latin hibernus).

In the animal kingdom this can also happen during Summer and is called aestivation.

If you think about it it equates to a shorter conscious life (as it does not increase your lifespan) so not sure I'd want that.

Sleep through summer probably.
Not much going on and it seems with climate change the warmer weather is in Autumn anyway now lol.

It's got to be summer for me, I hate the heat.
Wake me up, when September ends.

Election season ... blah blah blah blah BS BS BS = zzzzzzzzz

The shitty, wet, rainy days.. deffo has to be Jan-April Hibernation 😂

I used to avoid thinking about the period after Christmas New Years Eve but a couple of years ago I started to enjoy January's. I enjoy watching people frantically running around at Christmas and how there seems to be a collective mood of laid back workers. And not much can beat that feeling. People come together to help the homeless at Christmas. We just have more sympathy at Christmas and nothing can beat that. Honestly, I look forward to eating healthy in the January period, my brain actually craves fresh health meals and I have a fresher outlook on life in general.
Now I'd like to hibernate through it all equally 😂

The best for me is sitting down with a cuppa and a joint after a hard shift, feeling my muscles and mind relax, the world seems like a better place, not in a delusional way but feeling good enuff to not think about the shit side of life)

This for me 👆 I agree 100%
This time is usually just before bed for me.
Mind racing with a million thoughts, without a spliff there’s no chance in hell I’ll be able to sleep 😂😂

This is a bit of me

Well i start when i wake up and then every two hours or so til bedtime unless if a friday when i go to smelly old work

But if you could only do it once what time would you choose ?

First thing in the morning with a spliff that’s about two feet in length

haha!

4.20 pm of course. High in the afternoon, dinner tastes so good, sleepy by bedtime.

Sounds good 🤤
That instant relaxation right after work 🙂‍↕️

Man lol I could really write some shit here as this has been a 40 year old question in my mind…

And I’ve made up my mind finally in my 50s

On a perfect day in a perfect life Id love a joint @2-3pm just after lunch yet a little while before my late afternoon siesta

I don’t need it at night or the morning in a perfect world 😅🫡❤️

If only life was that perfect man 😭 I’ve been suffering from insomnia my whole life and a spliff is the only sleep medicine that ever worked 💚

In my early days, after a hard physical graft at work, I'd be falling asleep after 2-3 drags haha!

9pm

What time do you usually sleep ?

Maybe around 1 or 2, back up at 6

Between dinner and bedtime, without a doubt. I usually only have 1-2 joints a day now thanks to the DHV and that's when they'll be!

After I've got home from work and cooked my dinner. Gimme that doobie!

First thing in the morning 6 am weekdays ... 8am weekends

Ooo with or without a coffee ?
The breakfast will definitely taste 100x better 😏😂

With coffee fore sure.. and this is my breckfast 😎

You must be a supermodel ! No breakfast at all? What time do you end up eating then ?

I usually eat between 5 and 6 pm...keeps me strong...intermittent fasting

Night time smoking for me, I struggle smoking during the day, makes me feel autistic lol, but at night it feels right to me!

Hahaha exactly same with me, I get paranoid during the day, whenever words come out of my mouth I repeat it in my head like damn did that make sense ? 😂😂

Oh mate the things I have said in public when stonned, many failed chat up lines lmao!

But yeah I hate dealing with the world when I am stonned, I can do it on occasions but mostly I love being in mediation style mode with my music lol as far away from people as possible :)

Same man! I’m not antisocial but I’m definitely an introvert :)
Music, movies, food and sometimes deep conversations with close friends is what it’s all about for me! And all of which works better at night time 🌃

I am sure there is some science to it, like the body releases hormones as soon as it gets dark that works better with the THC, I think.

Only thing about smoking at night is it effects REM, however sometimes this is good thing, as it can stop bad memories bad dreams etc, I haven't dreamt in a long time.

Hi
How long you smoke weed?

New seller first ten people to message me get a free 1gram sample

hi mate, this offer still on? cheers

you still offering this mate?

half an hour after dinner, 7 or 8. enough time to get it together before sleep and not wake up feeling dreadful

I may have to try this 👆
Im a long term hash smoker and I’ve never had any issues smoking before bed until recently…
That shit feeling waking up is ruining it for me 😭 maybe I should blaze a little earlier to take away the hang over feeling

I used to struggle really bad with hang overs in the mornings but I found a hot shower, 1-2 rollies with a coffee does the trick.

Gonna try that first thing in the morning 😭

Hi Smokasaurus 👍. 🤔 Mmm..I no a guy who had similar issues with parcels getting robbed at a shared house.. think after a couple of missing parcels. He changed the tracking info ( once received it) to have it as pick up at his local sorting office) collection. And never had any problems again. Always take ID if you try this method. Or an alternative 🤔. Set up a camera. Find out who's got itchy fingers 🤌 or even word your postman. But like Fire Extracts says,.. they aren't responsible if a parcel has been delivered to the address and some thief has intercepted it before you.