Nope. It’s all psilocybin for the most part.

I guess the potency might count. But different strains don’t produce different psilocybin. Just different strengths of it.

Some strains might have different levels of other alkaloids and other related compounds. But do we want that? Possibly not? I don’t know. Check out those compounds in the link I guess.

It’s the psilocybin that does the work. Everything else is just noise possibly.

Now. McKenna would have it that different strains of mushrooms all spoke to him in subtly different ways. And he’d know. So there may well be some sort of entourage effect. More research is needed.

But then - Timewave. You have to take McKenna with a pinch of pixie dust. 😂

Because, lucid though he is on such matters related to psychedelics.

He was totally shite at physics. Like. Hilariously shite.

Unless it was all just a wind up. In which case. Touche. Terry.

I definitely agree with you on potency, that's a variable we can understand clearly. That's something we know from PE strains and other mutations.

I definitely can feel some difference between *some* shrooms but there's absolutely no way for me to determine if that is the case for other people. Like McKenna said, some shrooms speak to me more than others. But I cannot determine if that effect is instigated by me, but something in the shroom... I don't know. It's also so hard to tell what your diet, psyche etc at the time plays an impact on if you get more a visual trip or body high etc. For me, I consistently get more of a body high with GT than other strains. Who knows what influences that though.

Like you said, there's so many compounds in a shroom, I do feel there's a lot that we don't know about which could have an impact on the effects!

Love your response here!
<3 Molly x

A quick question regarding shrooms: why do UK Liberty Caps seem not to commercially available. The online spore kits that promise the spores always seem to link back to other types, with no Libertys? Thanks Z

Hey Z.

This is mostly because Libs are extremely difficult to cultivate - there has been a few people that have managed to grow libs, but it's incredible labourious and difficult to get the conditions right. Nobody has managed to get the right mix yet.

This results in Libs only being available by foraging in the wild, and that can be challenging to find a field with many fruits.

Libs have one of the highest psilocybin contents of mushrooms especially in Europe, they are a very specially shroom! So if you find them, it means whoever is selling them has gone to great lengths to provide them :).
Mush love, MM x

Thanks for that explaination. We used to start at the top of our large local park and ate as we picked them and had some lovely trips out in nature. Z.

They really are special, they are my favourite <3

I dunno, I’m told a cubes a cube but I’ve felt a difference between strains.
But it could be psychological and my mindset before starting a trip.

With Golden Teachers I feel like the mushroom is teaching me something about myself.
With Mazaptec I see patterns that you normally see in Aztec art, but same again that could be because I associate the shroom with Central America.
B+ makes things look like a cartoon- I don’t know what that’s about 🤷🏻‍♂️

Nope, all just the same really.
Unlike dmt, white, cream, yellow and red, all different.

Only ever had the more yellowy stuff.

Yellow is probably the best, as the white you need a lot of. Yellow is probably the sweet spot.👍

Worked for me. Admittedly, I’ve only ever done it twice.

The second time. Wooo-weee. Still trying to work that one out.

The rest of it is in a box in my loft hidden away. 🤣

Once I’ve worked out the last time. I might consider it.

That was 7 years ago 😄

For me, different strains definitely have different effects but I can't claim to know the science behind it. I've not had a full shroom trip in years but microdose frequently and I've noticed differences in the effects as well as the strength/potency.

GTs are solid and reliable, 200mg of dried shrooms and I'm good to go. Steady, consistent and uplifting buzz which really helps when I'm in a low mood or stressed.

I've also had APE and APE reverts, both of which were noticeably more potent (only needed about half as much) but with the same type of effects as GTs.

I then had some Trinity Caps which were absolutely nuts. Tried going as low as 50mg and it was still too much. Very different experience too, like an emotional rollercoaster which was sometimes kinda fun in a way but also very unpredictable and not great for work days!

As already noted, it's quite likely an entourage effect from other compounds in addition to the psilocybin, similar to the way different strains of weed have different effects even though the THC is just the same chemically-speaking.

This answer speaks to me a lot, espeically regarding the potency. Pretty much sums up much of my opinion on potency; as someone who microdoses GT's myself, I find them and B+ most solid reliable. For me personally, 200-250mg is perfect, but if it's a spicy culture, 250mg can have be feeling a bit too energised. APE's seem reliable too, but I've had some which have sent me.

Entourage with weed edibles is a journey, for sure!

I hear alot about Penis Envy (Albino) ones.... These are very tempting. P.s. as an 'expert' what would be the best way to take mushrooms? Last time, I made an error by boiling them in a tea with other ingredients, and I later realised this pretty much destroys them (anything above 70degrees I read).... And certainly, I didn't feel a thing (not bought from yourself or LittleBiggy btw).

My understanding is that the myth of boiling water destroying psilocybin has been busted for a while now. In my experience, this hasn't been an issue for me (I don't know what you combind the shrooms with, maybe that had an interaction) but boiling in generally should be fine. Check Erowid for more details. https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info7.shtml

For other ways of uptake. Try lemon tek, it can help with uptake and those with stomach issues. For me personally, I prefer making a tea or smoothie.

In your case, something to bare in mind is it could also be result of a not so potent batch you had -- esp if you bought them powdered (powdered shrooms generally lose their potency fast) or the hasn't been stored well.

Thank you for your response, yes I think something we mixed in with the tea must have interacted negativity with the psilocybin. I think chewing on them or lemon trek (if I understand correctly, grind the mushrooms into powder, then soak in fresh lemon?) is the best way.

Im really enjoying the Pink Kush TSM have, really hits the spot for me💜💚

Ah maaaaan. I ordered 4-5 different ones from spacey today. That was the one I dropped Bow 😭😭

Classic LB timing, Im actually enjoying the Blackwater a bit more but that's to be off menu now, hard to keep up.
What did you go for?

Churkle, Durban poison banana bread, something else naughty.

I'd be buying more but fees seem to have gone crazy, 11-12% at 6 am this morning. Aintnobodygottimeforthat

There's always something new as soon as you buy. Guaranteed. Or, the price drops / BTC rises.

I see the previous recommendations (which are extremely sound, and from biggas whose opinions I value), but if you want to get mashed and it's within your price point, I'd recommend the Venom OG from Kali Kush Farms. Mashes me and my tolerance is quite high.

Dawg


Sorry couldn’t help it

I always remember an old boy originally from Yorkshire I worked with a few years ago. He told me a story about the time he went to court for cannabis charges and quoted the bible in his defence.

Gen. 1 Verses 29 to 30
[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Wohooo!..covers shrooms as well!

Whether it was or wasn’t , god gave us cannabis .

I remember something about being stoned to death. They had some serious shit back then I guess

😂😂😂

I’ll tell u what. Life would be a simpler place if one off the commandments was “Thou shall not pass to the right” 😆

Moses inhaled the fumes from the burning bush then spoke to God...
Sounds like a DMT trip, probably wouldve had a little smoke on the way down!

'Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours stash'?

Ha ha

Hi Philjgrove, it's an interesting theory and would be enjoyable if it's true, but I think it's controversial, of course the conservative Christians wouldn't go with this. I know there is a book on the subject "Cannabis: Lost Sacrament of the Ancient World" by Chris Bennet, also a couple of episodes of podcast "Great moments in weed history" on this subject :-)

The Holy Grail was slightly bong shaped!

rastas do call it a chalice :)

Scripture doesn't condemn cannabis but it doesn't condone smoking or being habitually inebriated (your body is a temple, kingdom of heaven not to be inherited by the drunk) but it depends on whether you interpret 'drunk' as relating only to alcohol or having it be a more general term for not being sober. I don't live by the bible but I personally believe God doesn't make mistakes and wouldn't put it here if he didn't want us to use it.

Thanks

You’d have to pretty baked to come up with that fairy story in the first place...which is a more believable scenario than it being ‘written’ by a bunch of illiterate nomadic peasants wandering around the desert thousands of years ago. So, ‘god’ doesn’t care about whether u get high, or not, because he/she/they?😂 don’t exist

Genesis 1:11
King James Version
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed

They've found traces of THC in the lungs of ancient Egyptian mummys so they did have access to Cannabis in that region.

Take a look at the god plant on prime buddy

War is the biggest business

A thug is going to shake you down the easiest way he can find but the game always stays the same: You NEED our protection.

Really don't mean this in any kind of shitty way but overwhelming numbers of people moving from more primitive areas into Rome is like what's happening now in Europe, North America and Eastern China.

Well in the UK its the willingness to stab each other in the back for the purpose of power and sheer personal greed no matter what the cost to the minions

That’s a human theme, not a nationalist theme btw:)

yes but the word primitive is offensive for a reason, it correlates with a set of principles that assumes information loss is irrelevant.

you of all people.

Too many to list, especially if by "we" you mean the US.

Pizza

It's an Empire folks that means most of the world is together on this. And the provinces will find the new heights in the future!

Wouldn't hurt if they could welcome a little global warming

Excessive money printing & Hedonism

Agree on this!!

Celebrity chefs!

on that note, bolemia

decadence, debauchery and depravity.

definitely dude

Becoming to confident in our ability to defeat any enemy and to greedy to understand our limitations.

We believe we are the pinnacle of human civilisation

Complacency

West on the decline, East on the rise

The rich are ruling for the rich and that only leads to revolution. I've been sharpening my
pitchfork for years.

Humans are that arrogant that we believe that we can change the weather now.

Obsession with gender

The loss of traditional values in the face of a new religion, it was Christianity that scuppered the Roman Empire these days we have the new religions of woke and climate change doing it for us.

Rome used Christianity to make a whole different way of dictatorship. They didn't vanish they reinvented themselves as the Roman Catholic faith.

madonna has been reinventing herself for millennia

interesting and as fucked up as it sounds those both seem like a better basis for god than a vengeful patriarch

you mean secularism, which is the actual correlative factor.

Peep Show

might even see me make a cameo or two

The secret ingredient is crime!!!!

I’ve just run to Windsor

Just started watching 'Spaced' again.

I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!

(yup showing my age)

It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)

Don't judge me!

Haha

Cheers BB

I'm in the middle of re-watching Spaced and felt like I had to scroll for hours to find somebody who finally mentioned it! xD

Oh my god I've got some fucking Jaffa Cakes in my coat pocket. :-)

Hahaha, we've all been there!

https://youtu.be/EcfVqsiesmU

lol. Must give this watch

Thank you - you just reminded me I need to re-watch spaced again!

I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..

Well I’ll judge you... if I could give 2 upvotes I would, agree with you totally, 2 of my fave ever shows, making me think of hitting Spaced up again...

I loved the shows of that generation. Nathan Barley. Day Today. Brass Eye also. Then The Mighty Boosh.

Holy shit the Mighty Boosh. 😂. Literally only just remembered it.

That crack fox still gives me nightmares. 🦊

The Wire
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World

This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations

Ah fuck it, nothing better to do, haha

The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time

The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression

Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan

Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before

People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.

Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this

Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to

Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha

Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one

Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today

Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too

The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature

Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series

It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics

Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next

The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer

Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.

The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences

Peep show one of my all time favs and can't to wrong with arrested development what a classic

Sad that they never manager to run the show normally... And probably we won't se another season ever :( love arrested development

Peep show and shameless uk!!

Currently halfway through the first series of Altered Carbon after reading this thread and seeing your recommendation. I'm a PhilipKDick fan and I'm really enjoying it, cheers 👍

good job bro

Dark on Netflix. German show about time travel set in a village where kids keep going missing every 33 years. Stunning production values, really intricately plotted, three series, all ties together. Loved it. Has an English dub but the German audio with subtitles is best.

Dark is a masterpiece. Watching S2 whilst really baked was transcendent

End of the fucking world is really good. Strange and offbeat which I like. With some characters that don’t give a fuck. And it’s British and very relatable (even though it’s about a lad that thinks he’s a psychopath haha).

Better call saul is must after braking baf.