Uk rap is rap, US rap is rap, rap is music, music is a form of artistic expression and therefore subjective. In other words one is not “better” than the other.

Having DJ’d hip hop for 20 years and created it myself for about the same length of time I’ve seen a fair amount or music referred to as rap. Even within the UK we have drill, boom bap, grime, r&b/soul influenced rap, garage and drum and bass. All of the above include rap (some more than others) and all are valid forms of expression.

Personally I’m a sucker for more boom bap leaning hip hop. Musically linked to the 90s/early 2000s but there’s plenty of modern day stuff out there and plenty of UK stuff that equals US stuff for me in terms of quality, with subject matter I can better relate to.

Just a few examples of my tastes:
Pretty much anything put out on High Focus records
Pretty much anything put out on Blah records
Pretty much anything produced by The Alchemist
Griselda

dead players in the house

I can’t stand west side gun though his annoying voice and stupid gun noises. Sounds like a little boy. Brings down Griselda as a whole. Benny and Conway are fire though I just think the thug shit has past its sell by date. I’ll listen to 50, big L pun and prodigy if I want the thug shiz. Can’t beat it. But Harry shotta on drum n bass destroys 99% of all rappers across all genres. The guys a monster.

Boom boom boom boom!!! how can you not like Westside.

I can't even listen to American shit any more, not even the old stuff that used to be good. UK rap shits all over the US, Americans just aren't with it at all.

the US stuff has turned very hollywood, non of it seems real or relatable anymore

US all the time. The amount of UK rap people have tried to get me to like... Just awful.

American for me..just the vibes are a lot better and authentic

yess pistach <3 totally agreed

CANNOT RELATE TO US RAP ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT UK FOR ME FROM SKINNYMAN TO THAT DRILL STUFF.

You've called it, the era of UK rap is upon us

is that even a question? i thought they didnt have hard drugs here

American rap has always taken first place, the amount of quality American rappers is a lot, and also guys like K-dot, J.cole... (just some examples), you can't really find their UK equivalent. However, British rap is much better nowadays, Dave for example is one of my fav rappers, so young but so talented his ceiling is incredible. I also think J Hus, Aj Tracey, Skeps, Giggs and Kano are fantastic rappers, but there is much less of quality British rappers for me personally. Like I can list of more American rappers that I like than British rappers. I'm not a HUGE fan of Drake, but a lot of credit to him for making British rap a lot more popular in the US + worldwide. But at the moment the one rapper I see breaking through to American heights of rappers is Dave, so so talented, and he has a natural knack for instruments. He also loves listening to movie soundtracks and different music as he finds it inspiring which I thought was really cool. Shows that he has a keen eye for production as well.

They are both good I listen to both

The yanks will always have that crown, but in terms of battle rap, the UK is fuckin miles ahead imo. The US battle rap scene is so disappointing man.

Peep Show

might even see me make a cameo or two

The secret ingredient is crime!!!!

I’ve just run to Windsor

Just started watching 'Spaced' again.

I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!

(yup showing my age)

It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)

Don't judge me!

Haha

Cheers BB

I'm in the middle of re-watching Spaced and felt like I had to scroll for hours to find somebody who finally mentioned it! xD

Oh my god I've got some fucking Jaffa Cakes in my coat pocket. :-)

Hahaha, we've all been there!

https://youtu.be/EcfVqsiesmU

lol. Must give this watch

Thank you - you just reminded me I need to re-watch spaced again!

I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..

Well I’ll judge you... if I could give 2 upvotes I would, agree with you totally, 2 of my fave ever shows, making me think of hitting Spaced up again...

I loved the shows of that generation. Nathan Barley. Day Today. Brass Eye also. Then The Mighty Boosh.

Holy shit the Mighty Boosh. 😂. Literally only just remembered it.

That crack fox still gives me nightmares. 🦊

The Wire
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World

This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations

Ah fuck it, nothing better to do, haha

The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time

The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression

Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan

Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before

People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.

Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this

Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to

Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha

Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one

Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today

Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too

The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature

Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series

It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics

Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next

The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer

Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.

The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences

Peep show one of my all time favs and can't to wrong with arrested development what a classic

Sad that they never manager to run the show normally... And probably we won't se another season ever :( love arrested development

good job bro

Peep show and shameless uk!!

Currently halfway through the first series of Altered Carbon after reading this thread and seeing your recommendation. I'm a PhilipKDick fan and I'm really enjoying it, cheers 👍

Dark on Netflix. German show about time travel set in a village where kids keep going missing every 33 years. Stunning production values, really intricately plotted, three series, all ties together. Loved it. Has an English dub but the German audio with subtitles is best.

Dark is a masterpiece. Watching S2 whilst really baked was transcendent

End of the fucking world is really good. Strange and offbeat which I like. With some characters that don’t give a fuck. And it’s British and very relatable (even though it’s about a lad that thinks he’s a psychopath haha).

Better call saul is must after braking baf.

100% but do you think you could watch them the other way round and it’s all still as good? As I really do, integrated them amazingly well.

Watched breaking bad, thought it was good, maybe a little over hyped, better call saul never really appealed to me, maybe I should try the 1st few episodes.

Cheers

I think it is better than braking bad

Yeah I agree, I liked BB a lot but I came to it a bit late and like UKgrower hearing the hype maybe expected too much. Better call Saul I didn’t expect much of at all, didn’t think it’d get past Series 1 but now I think it’s better than BB.

Defo watch Saul.
Really new is Gangs of London, not too bad. The fight scenes are brutal.

If you enjoyed Breaking Bad, then give Better Call Saul a go. I always thought he stole every scene he was in during Breaking Bad.

The Wire ...

Best show ever made.

Hum.....

this man knows.....

Succession

It’s a the best show in years imo

If you want a Change and a Tons of one line bombs to drop at work or with your mates there is only one place to go
"Letter Kenny" it will almost make you want to live there
10ply/Sally/Hard No and Bonny McMurryyyyyyyyyyyyyy

And if you want some of the best swearing on telly "The Thick of IT" / In The Loop
You will never watch a MP without Laughing again The Thick of it is almost a Documatary
Malcom Tucker is a
Best name calling every "Fuckbob Shitpants"

Sorry about the spelling
I am just dislexick @is there a strain that will help with this???

yes, they will all help make it worse. on the bright side, since everybody started typing on their phones, dyslexia is hardly noticeable anymore and you really don't have to apologise.

not a change if you just left that trailer park

My favourite show of all time is Bojack Horseman, trust me, give it a chance

Rick & morty puts any animated series in a corner sorry :p

Mindhunter on Netflix.

Still Game

Gomorrah if you dont mind subtitles, its an Italian crime show set in Naples. Simply brilliant.

Murphys law
Stargate universe, SG1, Atlantis
Firefly
The Expanse
Oz
Banshee
Person of interest
The shield
Hetty Wainthropp investigates

Gomorrah is the shit man, one of my all time favs
Oz is a downer but an awesome show

Ozark
Better call Saul
The wire
Boardwalk empire
Sopranos

Just watched Gangs of London which was banging
Chernobyl was a masterpiece

Yean Gomorrah is probably my number 1 show, the setting, actors, story... superb. Cant wait to watch the Ciro Di Marzio movie too.

Wow I didn’t even know that was a thing? When’s that out?

L'Immortale or the Immortal is the name, was out last year in Italy. Have tried to find out when its out in the UK but no joy yet

Nice one man, I’ll deffo keep my eyes open for that one.

Its on sky atlantic now mate, its certainly worth a watch an sets up the next season of Gomorrah nicely

Literally just finished watching brassic 2 and Save me Too. Both class. Surely everyone on here has watched Brassic.....!!!?

I do, doesn't quite hit the levels that Shameless did back in the day but still a lot of fun. Plus it's good to hear actual accents on TV instead of just American lol

If you like weird? Get baked & watch.

Channel 4
Garth marenghi's dark place ;-)
Robot chicken
Shivering truth

Father ted
The IT crowd
One foot in the grave
What we do in the shadows. Watch the film first.

Sandman - netflix
Red dwarf
Fast show
Inside no 9
The young offenders
The boys
15 stories high - sean lock's first tv series. on youtube but low quality.

Band of brothers
Chernobyl
Firefly
Curb your enthusiasm
Fawlty towers
Black adder
Black mirror
Dexter

Respect for Garth Merenghi, everybody should see that.

On that note, throw Mighty Boosh into the mix as well.

Big Train to round off a trio of lesser-known, top quality British comedies.

Recently finished Band Of Brothers...so good, as was its follow up The Pacific.

Have you ever watched Travellers? (if you was a fan of stargate back in the day this will interest you) or if your a sci fi fan, Very good story telling and actors (Canadian)

Another one for the list, cheers.

Just spotted the Ricky Garvacie ( sp ) afterlife season 2 is out, thought the 1st series was decent, so that's another to easy the lock down shit TV

i liked that a lot more than i thought i would. also, colony on netflix even though it was killed by covid and never finished.

I'm watching Detectorists at the moment. Really good. Funny and with beautiful scenery. On BBC iPlayer and Netflix.

Shout for detectorists.
Great theme tune btw.
Excellent characters.
Great series about the sackler family’s and there murderous medical misbehaviour ( painkiller )
Starring ferris bueller.

Lilyhammer on Netflix.
"A New York mobster goes into hiding in rural Lillehammer in Norway after testifying against his former associates"
Steven Van Zandt, or Silvio from The Sopranos, plays the main in this hilarious show

Emmerdale or Loose Women. The News at ten is good too.

the queens gambit!

Some of the things I've enjoyed are:
The Boys
Vikings
100
Only fools and horses
Into the Badlands
Breaking Bad
Picard
Game of Thrones ( Except the last season which I found terrible )
Star Trek The next Generation - Deep Space Nine
Stargate Atlantis
Treadstone

*The Queen's Gambit- short series (one season only) but good storyline
*Lie To Me
*The Mentalist
*Sherlock

Gomorrah

Ozark

Ifyou seen BB, definitely watch Better Call Saul.
Comedy? The Office US and then Parks n Recreation. Or maybe Shameless US? Little Britain it's always great company.
If you seen Broadwalk E, you probably have seen the sopranos. If not its a MUST! Ive been watching House of Cards and it's quite nice too.
Maybe 6 feet under, Weeds, Dexter, Chuck, My name it's Earl??
Cience? COSMOS!!! A mind blowing and mind opening cience series. Everyone should watch it before they die. Either the original and first with Carl Sagan (it might not have the best visual representations but Carl its Carl) or the new Neil Tyson.
In to some stand ups? George Carlin is a must, the young Carlin to the old political Carlin.
I would also like to give a shout out to my Spanish Fellows on THE Money Heist.

Orphan black! one of my favourites.. the wire.. Russian doll..cynical,funny. end of the fucking world. Money heist.. prison break..cleverly written. Better call Saul if you enjoyed breaking bad.

Rick and Morty and weed is my favourite combination. Snoop dog’s talk show on YouTube is hilarious to watch as-well.
I find American horror story hilarious, but only when I’m high, otherwise it’s pretty terrifying lol.

Films : seven psychopaths is a must watch, requiem for a dream and pulp fiction, all time faves. and I did write a detailed review and much more but it was deleted :/

Top Boy. Absolute banger. Uk breaking bad/scarface perhaps.

Yo UK Grower. I have just discovered Channel Zero on StarZplay, prime add on. It’s a really good horror series, twisted stuff, defo a bit freaky.

To any one who likes comedies don't be put off What We Do in the Shadows, it's vampires but it's not really a "vampire" type show.... it's really funny when high and the second series has just come out on iplayer.

Midnight Gospel. It's like a dmt trip mixed with a podcast. Amazing stuff

If you're into Sci-fi I'd highly recommend Altered Carbon on Netflix. Really cool story and visuals. I seen somebody recommended Ozark, excellent as well. If you like animation and feel like a laugh give Rick and Morty a watch, The Midnight Gospel is also new to Netflix but really trippy / funny in my opinion. Happy watching!

The Wire
Money Heist
Animal Kingdom
Community
Designated Survivor

Narcos

I almost pissed myself with laughter watching the first episode as I watched the trailer but wasn't really for how out there this really is. A must watch for any sci fi and gaming fan or if you have a sick sense of humour like me :)

Stranger Things Season 1 - 80's themed sci-fi thriller with endearing characters that had me on the edge of my seat throughout.

True Detective Season 1 - Basically an 8 hour movie that oozes quality. Pacing/cinematography/acting/dialogue are all A++ for me.

Trailer Park Boys - Get baked, watch this, laugh your arse off.

Peep Show - Clever and hilarious.

Sopranos, the Wire and Band of Brothers.

Band of Brothers is a masterpiece, great shout! Any recommendations of war films/series that are similar mate?

Give 'The Pacific' a go. Its HBOs follow up to 'Band Of Brothers' set during the allied assault on the Pacific region during WW2

Trailer Park Boys should be perfect for everyone on here, given the enormous amount of smoking and growing throughout!

Penguin is very good 👍

Clarkson's Farm is a good watch

Such a great show, got to have tissues on standby so far this season

The Gentleman on netflix right now is decent!

3 episodes in , loving it.

The Wire
The Shield
Wu Tang. An American Saga
Foundation
Sopranos
Battlestar Galactica

There are gazillions more. But these are a few off the top of my head.

Since it hasn’t been mentioned here , it only proves how massively underrated Wilfred is . Had great laughs :) U.S. version of an Australian cult sitcom about a meek young man and a pot-smoking talking dog named Wilfred (actually actor Jason Gann in a dog suit, whom everyone else sees as just a dog). Won’t spoilt it anymore

Never heard of this until i saw it here. +1.

One of the best series of all time imo.

Watching Yellowjackets at the moment, pretty good but if you watch the pilot episode don’t be put off as that’s a bit shit, it does get better!
Watched “From” before that, that was pretty good too…

Fargo 1-4

in descending order but hizell yes

The Start Up, it's on Netflix. 2 series' that I've thoroughly enjoyed. Defo worth a watch!

Yes i agree and quite appropriate!

It had me hooked from the first episode. I done both series in about 2 days haha.

line of duty . Luther

Avenue 5, Good Omens, Braindead, Devs and The Orville.

just call Saul was better than breaking bad in some ways (last series a bit disappointing tho). Always interested to see if people liked the Midnight Gospel (single series, animation, also Netflix).

Inside No 9 amazing too, on iPlayer

Cobra kai is pretty good if you enjoyed the original film series

This. It’s fucking incredible! 30 years and above are in for a treat.

If you liked Breaking Bad you might like Better Call Saul... it's slower but the writing and cinematography are actually better imo. Plus by S5 the pace is basically on BB levels.

Can't wait for the last season!

Daredevil series on netflix and the punisher

The Boys or Doom patrol, quality shows right there & the wire If you didnt see it yet,too many to name mate but try them

If you have Netflix Murder Mountain is good, it about growers in the emerald triangle

Undone is good and trippy with the animation style it uses and pretty unique story to boot.

You (season 1). Solid watch but latest series was a waste of time.

Fringe is my favorite series of all time!
12 monkeys
Weeds

Already mentioned but some of my favorites -
Westworld, The Magicians, altered carbon & Vikings

With everyones suggestions should keep you going for a couple of lockdowns

Sex Education and The Last Kingdom both great series and well worth a look.

Loved Last Kingdom!

The haunting of hill house is really good and also bone chillingly scary!

Succession - perfect casting brilliant script
Messiah - it's not what you think

Silicon Valley 2014 is 10/10

So sad they cancelled it...

money heist and elite on netflix

Money heist was dope

Get the amazon Prime free trial and watch Picard, star trek spin off - it's really good, not what you expect.