Hey much appreciated for that but thats us we do our best for everyone and do it with love like good old days
one love bro
RB

i can't read books high as the words don't go in, and i find it amazing that anyone can!

but here are a couple of recommendations:

- mason & dixon, by thomas pynchon. possibly my favourite novel, and i recently finished a fourth or fifth reading of it.

- ways of being, by james bridle. fascinating book about AI, climate change, computing, and how we humans relate to (or fail to relate to) the non-human world.

Same, thats where Audible comes in handy :D

oh good tip! and nice to know i'm not the only one who can't read when high.

i'm kinda resistant to audio books for some reason (i think podcasts fill that gap for me).

any favourite audiobook recommendations?

oh yeah I'm the same - can't really enjoy books stoned! Audio books are a good idea :)

Thomas Pynchon is such a good writer. My personal favourite is Gravity's Rainbow. Pretty sure that he would write a lot of his work completely high to help him get into the characters' heads...and then edit it sober. Which isn't a bad process. It's probably how he came up with a guy who's have sex when a missile falls, so they use his erection as an early warning system ;). Also a long, phantasmagorical trip down a toilet.

Aye, I really enjoyed the Unhappy Medium by TJ Brown, hilarious and Redshirts by John Scalzi is fun

Im in awe of anyone who can manage Pynchon . Tried n failed!

Love a good book!! Here’s some good recommendations

Bios mainly rock n roll people

Dear boy - keith moon

Thanks a lot mr kibblewhite - roger daltrey

Dr Ozzy - ozzy osbourne

Ozzy

Scar tissue - Anthony kiedis

Other true books

First light - about a spitfire pilot

Mad world my masters - John Simpson the news reader

Mr nice - Howard marks

Adverntures of a racketeer - Patrick ??? (Howard marks brother in law

Snowblind -

Shantaram- Gregory David ?????

Fiction

Wasp factory - Iain banks ( must read if you haven’t it’s mental)

Lord of the rings

Sherlock Holmes - surprisingly good

Jeeves and Wooster - any books all awesome

Corfu trilogy - Gerald Durrell

The teachings of Don Juan - Carlos casteneda

Just a few of my faves , I read lots of different books

Wow - I can't believe I've never read Sherlock Holmes?! Sounds like an obvious thing... Need to add it to the list!

Seriously they are great and once you read them you understand why the name and stories haven’t disappeared enjoy !!!

Mr Nice - Howard Marks
Cosmic Trigger (Vols. 1,2,3 ) - Robert Anton Wilson

Mr Nice is definitely on my list. What did you think?

Def. worth a read

Joe Abercrombie is my current favourite author. Kind of grim fantasy.
He builds characters so well you feel like you know them. Start with the First Law trilogy or The Heroes if you just want to dip your toe in.
If you prefer audiobooks the narrator who reads for him, Steven Pacey, is awesome. I didn't like audiobooks at all before listening to him

new Abercrombie book out next month. Great books, especially when read by Pacey!

Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain

Mr Nice & Dope Stories by Howard Marks

Shantaram

Septimus Heap books (kids books, don't care, love them and read them yearly, Harry Potter can fuck off)

Ink and Sigil series

Any book by Thomas Pynchon. Vineland is my favourite

James by Percival Everett

Who Paid the Piper by Frances Stonor Saunders

River god.

American physco.

The shrinking man

Fight club

Easter island

Mockingbird - Walter Tevis
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell - Susanna Clarke
Snowblind - Robert Sabbag
The Name of The Wind - Patrick Rothfuss

Snowblind is amazing. Old school smuggling at its finest.

How about The Day Of The Jackal by Frederick Forsyth

for philosophy then Meditations by Marcus Aurelius of course 😀

Stephen King Different Seasons . I’m enjoying it so far .

Anything Jeff Noon. Start with Vurt though. Falling Out Of Cars is my favourite by him.

Thoroughly depressing dystopian shit, all set in a future Manchester.

It’s great. If you haven’t read Jeff. Read him immediately. It’s so bleak it totally cheers you up.

Automated Alice.

He rewrote Alice In Wonderland the minute it was out of copyright. Set it in Manchester. In the future. Published that shit.

You have to read Vurt and Pollen first, or it’s just nonsense. 🤣


Aldous Huxley.

Ol’ Bull Lee, Hunter S.

Foucault

Ol’ Palahniuk

Carl Sagan

Trainspotting. Irvine Welsh. It’s kinda Nirvana the band, in book form.

The Bridge. Ian Banks. Wasp Factory if you haven’t read it. Espedair Street is a great book also.

Lanark. Alasdair Grey.

Only Forward/Spares. Michael Marshall Smith.

Underrated books, that guy writes, if you like fun books to read.

Keats. Yeats. Byron. Pinter. Meadows. Morrissey. Mark E Smith. Linton Kwesi Johnson. The poetry of people like Mike Skinner and the master, John Cooper Clarke.

Dickens

HP Lovecraft.

John Lydon.

Kevin Shields.

Not books. Sorry.

Illuminatus!, Cosmic Trigger. Robert Anton Wilson. Carlos Casteneda. Because sometimes you want the bollocks to be true. Bit of Church of The Subgenius. Our captain and saviour. Roberto Dobbs.

Terence McKenna. Food of The Gods.

That’s a book.

Desmond Morris. Errol Morris

Alesdair Crowley. And yes. Jimmy Page did buy his Scottish retreat.

Look into that one. It’s a deep, interesting rabbit hole.

Allen Ginsberg, Tom Wolfe, Jack (Daniels) Kerouac.

Anais Nin

Henry Miller.

Sexytime.

Bill Gibson. Alan Moore. Alan Martin. Bill Drummond.

I’ve given you enough to be getting on with. I wish I could be reading all of that shit for the first time.

Don’t read any of these books or authors. They are a big part of why I’m so dysfunctional.

They do all cut through the bullshit kinda nicely. If you are open to it.

If your up for a mind blowing allegedly true story that is amazing try getting your hands on a copy of "The Vertical Plane" its an account of the Dodderton (that might not be spelt correctly) messages. I don't wanna spoil the plot for you or any potential readers so I'll leave it at that, anyone wanting to do there own research pre reading is welcome. Just learning about the incident is very interesting.

The master and his emissary: the divided brain

Be here now! Best book for any psychedelic journey :)

A few of my absolute favourites:

A Confederacy of Dunces - by John Kennedy Toole

Darkness at Noon - by Arthur Koestler

Stoner - by John Edward Williams
(haha not our kind, it's the character's name)

Blood Meridian - by Cormac McCarthy

The Master and Margarita - by Mikhail Bulgakov

All of these books have become important parts of me ever since I read them :)

For non fiction:

Neurosis and Human Growth - by Karen Horney

^ this helped me out in a tough time! Really interesting re human psychology.

The Master & Margarita is wild! 😍

The Glass Bead Game - Herman Hesse. One of the best I’ve ever read.

Loved this https://www.amazon.co.uk/If-You-Survive-Wilson/dp/0804100039

But if you want something more light hearted, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wee-Free-Men-Discworld-Novel/dp/0552549053

Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:

1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.

2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.

3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.

4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.

We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.

In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.

We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.

Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.

Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.

Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.

Peace yo.

Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.

Please dont have the idea that all Scots want independence
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.

The whole SNP "independence" thing is a facade.

The SNP want to leave our union and join the EU club because they'll give them more money than Westminster does.

They still want to be financially "dependent", just a more generous sugar daddy.

I'm talking about the SNP, not all Scots :)

High Raskolnikov. Your post showed as a comment on mine so You're addressing me, then. I have no intention of stating anything about what Scots want. My point is that I consider an English Independence Referendum is incumbent on ourselves to determine our Englishness without the input of the other three nations. Devolution, revolution, phooey! We want ablution. Wash our hands of the lot of you. Do we? Who does? Has anyone got this underway? Sturgeon and Salmond? Something fishy about those two!

Interesting points Vikosh. I feel that England is a pretty tribal place.

Being born and growing up in the North, spending the last 2 decades in the South, and finally relocating back to the North of England, i’d say there are even considerable cultural and economic differences between different areas of this country.

There was a political movement that started a few years ago, that seems to now be on the back burner, for northern independence. While this is a lofty pursuit, and i’m unsure how successful it might be if implemented, I think it suggests that certain areas of our country define themselves not on a national footing but a regional one.

Personally I consider myself English and Irish, rather than British, but more crucially, being Northern trumps ‘Englishness’ for me…. race doesn’t come into it for me. Social class plays a large factor too.

I’d take a working class community in the North populated with English South Asians, Roma, and West African people over a predominantly white, middle class community in rural Hampshire- this is down to personal experience and unscientific, just my preference having lived in both places.

Great topic!

I certainly don’t need a referendum to establish my Scottishness.

I wouldn’t blame the English people if they started to see things this way but we are still all better as a union and I think you know this. Sturgeon and Salmond are just typical politicians mate who lying is a big part of the job description. There has been a huge change in Scotland in my lifetime where the working class vote has moved away from labour to the snp. Labour has shot themselves in the foot so many times but also the snp politics has changed. I have been on this earth a long time and the snp have changed so much. Sturgeon is still using her bloody daily briefing up here to try to indoctrinate the nation. I’m going to stop here as I am ranting.

British here too. I feel like the silent majority of my country are the same

Not English, then. To be born an Englishman is to win first prize in the lottery of life. That life being the infliction of Imperialism on 25% of the world's population. Nothing wrong with that, was there?

Cool. What were you born?

Obviously, not britain. Tiocfaidh ár lá.

Get your Brits out!!

Sturgeon's manifesto was just a wish list, impossible to accomplish. I don't want Scotland to leave. We may rib each other on things but I'd like to think we have each others back when things get tough. We live on the same island. Crazy to break up.

I am British not Scottish or Welsh or Irish or English but British.
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.

Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.

She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.

I am British loud and proud !!!

I’m British and Scottish mate. Think it is possible to be both. I’m not interested in Independence and believe it will not happen and will be a disaster if it does. In Scotland Salmond courted a certain block vote and got it. That is what has got the snp to where they are. That and shortbread tin thinking. They will soon want to let over 14 s vote. As I said in another post, Scottish Independence is not the endgame for a lot of snp.

Just curious, what do you believe to be the SNP's ultimate goal?

Wait do Scotts not have bangers and mash?

What an outstanding post thank you

this bigga

Not necessarily, Scottish nationalism is an attempt to escape racism

good one, i guess that goes for any anti colonial movement like vietnam for example

It was a joke mate but fuck, Vietnam. Is that what you are comparing Scottish Independence to?

Are you talking about Arab supremacists like Hamza Yousaf ? I'm unaware of any other racists in Scotland .

Sounds like something a Scottish nationalist would say.

Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.

Unless is the European Union.

lol. ok, i'll bite...

nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.

racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.

neither is mandatory last I heard.

a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.

Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.

This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.

I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.

Sounds kinda like racism.

The national front! They were nationalists that says all you need to know!!!

national socialists also skew a little right

Look into snp and the past. They have changed a lot.

Yes you could look into the SNPs distant past or alternatively you could look at what the Tories are doing right now as we speak under your very nose.
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!

Not even Ethno nationalism is racist . You can love your own ethnicity more than others without hating them .

Because we can change our nationality as it’s make believe. You cannot change your DNA which is real

nationalism is more like greed, racism is more like hate.

Nationalism has more positive range for example promoting culture. Racism is usually associated with negative feelings about other races.

They both seem doomed if you ask me.

only in touchy feely places like the uk ... not in most other countrys ... too much self hatred in this country ...

Not synonymous, but it's an interesting point.
In some sense, I think it is an individual and academic choice to be patriotic (even that is turned into a dirty word now), root for your country or be proud of it voxally. It's OK to like your country if you really do. You do live there after all. It's just a country. Other countries are not minorities in their own country as the British are not here.
As you allude to, it is a lottery, not a skill, being British (or Irish for that matter). There is little merit to being "proud" I agree. But it doesn't oppress anyone or anything in itself. It is a way to preserving culture and way of life. You can't pick who you think should be able to do that.
Otherwise, the takeaway is, only the oppressed are allowed to be proud of anything and preserve culture. What kind of world is that?
I do think that no matter what, being proud of your race is pointless, stupid and divisive.
It suggests a nexus between a superiority or exceptionality and racial group.
After all, skin colour is decided only by a few alleles in the genome and indicates very little about one's charachter.
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Racism is necessarily exclusionary. But Nationalism isn't.

In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.

I think it is oxytocin that causes the problems as it creates aggressive in-grouping, be it from the innateness from skin colour or the innateness from where someone was born.

There was a study I linked to but there is more out there about the dark side of oxytocin. There was quite a few articles in the dumber section of media about giving men oxytocin to fix their aggression problems when in fact it might be a major factor in causing them.

I'm a nationalist. I want England and all our major cities to be English and not resemble Bangladesh. That makes one a racist nowadays.

If the reason you give for those cities resembling Bangladesh is people of other races, that's kinda the definition of racism. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a closet racist.

The people make the nation. Change the people and the nation changes with it. Very simple concept to understand that is being proved everyday in this country. Natives are being demographically replaced in our homeland, but because we're white native displacement is considered a moral good. Soon British children are going to grow up as hated minorities in their own country. The clock is ticking...

the fruits of being a coloniser

So it's about revenge? Not exactly on to a winner with that argument. 99.99% of Britons had nothing to do with the British Empire. Just say you have an anti-white bloodlust and shut up

no, its just a result of a worldwide empire. i love whites and certianly wont shut up in the face of an ignorant one.

Nonsense answer. It's happening in Ireland as well. They didn't have an Empire and were subjugated by us.

I was just watching this video of Nick Shirley in Ireland . https://youtu.be/WfJggeIw_94?si=53bYT9Vv6eHP90wL

I think Ireland might be in even bigger trouble than Britain. There doesn't seem to be any political representation for them at all.

I think you're right . However , they do community a lot better over there . I reckon they're more likely to fight back sooner . We've already seen it in places like Coolock .
It really is awful what they've done to Ireland .

Yeah grassroots support is there in greater numbers than Britain

I have two lefties in my DMs threatening to post my address and do violence against me because I called out the violence of Islam . These lefties are truly disgusting

by bigger trouble do you mean vastly more successful?

The reason certain areas of Britain look like Bangladesh now is because we've let in too many people from other cultures without giving them a chance to assimilate .
I have no hate towards Bangladesh . I'd love to visit some day , but when I go to London , I don't want to be surrounded by Bangladeshis , I want to be surrounded by Londoners and their culture . London is lost now . The culture of London can never recover from the insane amount of immigrants we've allowed to move there . It's very sad for anyone who loves British culture . Of course racists like yourself who hate whites and Brits can't see the problem .

London never had any 'culture'? Means one thing that was ever cultural about London, that you don't see now.

How can you say such a thing ?
Is London the only city that never had any culture ? What about Tokyo , Rome , or Paris ?
Does culture even exist in your world view ?
London used to be the capital of British culture . The British people are the one thing that made London a cultural hub . Those people are being pushed out at an alarming rate . 40% of London are now foreign born . These people have brought their own culture with them . This is why some parts of London feel more like Bangladesh these days .
Bangladesh is a very apt example as It's a region which has recently had it's own culture eradicated by fundamentalist expansionist Islamists . Bangladesh should be a warning to us about the dangers of uncontrolled immigration .
I don't know about you but I love my people . I don't want to see them replaced by people from the third world . I think that would be extremely racist .

Even through that lengthy rant, at no point did you mention any examples of London culture that no longer survive to this day. Why is that?

If you calm down and read more critically , you will see that I offered the British people themselves as the one cultural asset which no longer survives in London . Now answer my questions .

So you don't know. Just say that. British people are not a CULTURAL TRADITION. That and, they are still in London. Your issue is just plain racism, you don't like seeing people that aren't white in your country. Here's a few examples of culture that still exist in London. Pie and Mash, Cockney slang, Shakespeares globe, the museums, the cathedrals, the monarchy. I'd go on, but what's the point. You're a loser Pete. I'm a proud Scottish Nationalist, and we Love our culture, we also love new cultures and people's that have settled in Scotland and consider it home. You know why? Because we aren't like you. We're accepting. We want the best for Scotland, not for Whites, because fuck that stupid bigotry racist shite. You can be Brown, Black, Green or Blue, we don't care, as long as you love Scotland too, and contribute to the nation. Whether that be through paying taxes, or education. People make Scotland. Not just white people. Guess what? The only country that tried to destroy our cultural traditions is now our friends. Well, some of you.

You get racists in every country, the UK is no exception, but the way you talk is frankly disgusting.

What a nasty and unfounded rant . You know we can disagree and still be friendly .
My best and oldest friend is half Ghanaian . I love all ethnicities but I have a duty to protect my own .
I don't want to see any ethnicity replaced in their own lands , but I have a special obligation to the replacement happening here .

The British people are the ones who carry the British tradition . The people who replace us will not carry on the culture in our place .
Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London ? The shocking speed of the replacement means there is no hope for new comers to assimilate .
You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in .
Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born ? These people bring their own cultures . At that concentration , they couldn't assimilate even if they wanted to .
How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture ?

So you're best and oldest friend is not your own, because he's Ghanaian? What an absurd view.

"Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London?" why, are all those non whites going to commit genocide and Take Urr Cuntray?

"You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in" our cultural heritage has never been stronger, not since you lot tried to destroy our culture by banning our language, banning our kilts, removing us from the highlands, but, we forgave you sad little people.

"Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born?" I don't understand where the problem is here?

"How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture?" Considering that the Japanese are very western leaning, they still have a fantastic historical heritage and legacy, that will never go away. Just like how Londons heritage is very much alive to this day.

Again, you're just a racist Pete.

I never said my Ghanaian friend wasn't my own . Why are you misrepresenting me ?
He is a very British black man . He also understands this problem . Would you call him a racist for holding the same views as me or does he get a free pass for being black ?

If you replace all the British people with foreigners then obviously the culture will be lost . It hasn't taken a genocide to replace 40% , but violence is certainly not off the table for incoming cultures . Look at what the Muslims recently did to the Hindus in Bangladesh for example .

If the Japanese are replaced by Brits , they will obviously lose their strong culture . This goes without saying .
You're being unreasonable and actually absurd in your denial . It's basic maths . I think I'll leave it there . Please stop calling me a racist without a shred of evidence for it .

British people are ''culture'' because culture is simply the expression of your national character and personality. You live and breathe culture simply by being who you are. Only small numbers of foreigners can be integrated into that. You change the people and the culture changes with it

lmao

Both people in this conversation should yeet themselves of the nearest cliff.

Your IQ is less than the number of toes you have.

Threats and insults are all you have .
Get an actual argument before you talk about other's IQ .
I scored 133 on the Stanford Binet myself . That puts me in the 98th percentile . How about you ?

If it's the colour of people's skin you're referring to, and you're suggesting you have to be white to be regarded as english, then yes, you are. Not just nowadays, always.

So you deny the English of their genetic heritage ? For you to understand how racist that it , I want you to apply your reasoning to any other ethnicity ?
Are the Japanese , Chinese , and Africans racist for holding these ethno nationalist views or does it only apply to white people ? If you're only applying this standard to white people then you are the racist .
Of course it's possible to be civically British and ethnically foreign , but like any foreigner who moves to another country , we should respect the people we are trying to join . That includes the ethnicity and the culture of the natives . There's nothing racist about respecting the countries that take us in .

English genetic heritage? Which one? The ones that originate from Germania? The Vikings? The Norman's? Your genetic heritage has more influence from other nationalities, not just the Angles. Who were German.

As is true for every single ethnicity on Earth . Yes , we are a mix , just like everyone else , but I don't think you're denying the existence of ethnicity , are you ?

Just a little helpful guidance for you there Petey boy.

No, I'm not. Ethnicity has nothing to do with skin colour.

Race is extremely important to the ethnicity of the Japanese , Chinese , Africans , etc .
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?

I had to repeat myself because you didn't address this point the first time I made it . Instead you chose to argue about semantics . I don't think you have an actual argument

Your lot do nothing but give the normal populace a headache.

You can't engage me on this argument because it would expose your double standard and prove that you are the racist one here .
That's why all you can do is dodge and insult .

I'm racist because I have no issue with immigration and multiple cultures? That's new. I'm very happy to welcome people who want to make a life here, that want to work and contribute, I couldn't give a flying fuck what nationality someone is, or what skin colour they are, as long as they aren't like you Petey boyyo. You really should reread this entire conversation.

You're a racist because you deny the British of their culture and genetics . Unless you hold this view consistently for all people , Africans , Asians , etc , then you are being racist .

Genetics, really? So you must be white too be British? Nobody is destroying British culture you fuckwit Pete. You couldn't even give an example of British culture that no longer exists.

Nonsense . Please try harder to track our conversations

Still no argument . I really don't think you have one . It's all baseless insults with you lot .

My argument has already been covered. Nobody is taking away Londons culture. You're a fool for thinking it.

Different argument . We had to give up on that one because you were denying the obvious . 40% and growing fast is obviously going to impact the culture. I will argue no more with you about that .

Let me copy and paste the question you are dodging :
Race is extremely important to the ethnicity of the Japanese , Chinese , Africans , etc .
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?


Please try to keep track .

Ethno nationalism is only the norm in your world pal, not in the world of the less ignorant.

Ethno nationalism is the norm in China , Japan , and most African countries .
This is an objectively true fact . Do you think they're racist too ?

Seeing as no-one's answered you Pete, and you keep asking. Yes, of course they are. All ethno-nationalism is racist.

english is a race mate just like indian im english if i move to india im not an indian ? same thing should apply in the uk

has india conquered and assimilated england in this scenario?

India did it's own conquering and assimilating . Every country has . The UK was just the best at it . The people who are still practicing this expansionism are the fundamentalist Islamists . Islamists are the only genuine far right threat yet they're championed by you lefties because they happen to be foreign . If you want to fight racism , you should oppose Islamist expansionists . You can ask your Indian friends all about this . They know all too well the dangers of fundamentalist Islam . I think you'll find they prefer the British to the Islamists these days .

Was Christian expansion ism ok though? Cos they were white, right?