Nope. It’s all psilocybin for the most part.

I guess the potency might count. But different strains don’t produce different psilocybin. Just different strengths of it.

Some strains might have different levels of other alkaloids and other related compounds. But do we want that? Possibly not? I don’t know. Check out those compounds in the link I guess.

It’s the psilocybin that does the work. Everything else is just noise possibly.

Now. McKenna would have it that different strains of mushrooms all spoke to him in subtly different ways. And he’d know. So there may well be some sort of entourage effect. More research is needed.

But then - Timewave. You have to take McKenna with a pinch of pixie dust. 😂

Because, lucid though he is on such matters related to psychedelics.

He was totally shite at physics. Like. Hilariously shite.

Unless it was all just a wind up. In which case. Touche. Terry.

I definitely agree with you on potency, that's a variable we can understand clearly. That's something we know from PE strains and other mutations.

I definitely can feel some difference between *some* shrooms but there's absolutely no way for me to determine if that is the case for other people. Like McKenna said, some shrooms speak to me more than others. But I cannot determine if that effect is instigated by me, but something in the shroom... I don't know. It's also so hard to tell what your diet, psyche etc at the time plays an impact on if you get more a visual trip or body high etc. For me, I consistently get more of a body high with GT than other strains. Who knows what influences that though.

Like you said, there's so many compounds in a shroom, I do feel there's a lot that we don't know about which could have an impact on the effects!

Love your response here!
<3 Molly x

A quick question regarding shrooms: why do UK Liberty Caps seem not to commercially available. The online spore kits that promise the spores always seem to link back to other types, with no Libertys? Thanks Z

Hey Z.

This is mostly because Libs are extremely difficult to cultivate - there has been a few people that have managed to grow libs, but it's incredible labourious and difficult to get the conditions right. Nobody has managed to get the right mix yet.

This results in Libs only being available by foraging in the wild, and that can be challenging to find a field with many fruits.

Libs have one of the highest psilocybin contents of mushrooms especially in Europe, they are a very specially shroom! So if you find them, it means whoever is selling them has gone to great lengths to provide them :).
Mush love, MM x

Thanks for that explaination. We used to start at the top of our large local park and ate as we picked them and had some lovely trips out in nature. Z.

They really are special, they are my favourite <3

I dunno, I’m told a cubes a cube but I’ve felt a difference between strains.
But it could be psychological and my mindset before starting a trip.

With Golden Teachers I feel like the mushroom is teaching me something about myself.
With Mazaptec I see patterns that you normally see in Aztec art, but same again that could be because I associate the shroom with Central America.
B+ makes things look like a cartoon- I don’t know what that’s about 🤷🏻‍♂️

Nope, all just the same really.
Unlike dmt, white, cream, yellow and red, all different.

Only ever had the more yellowy stuff.

Yellow is probably the best, as the white you need a lot of. Yellow is probably the sweet spot.👍

Worked for me. Admittedly, I’ve only ever done it twice.

The second time. Wooo-weee. Still trying to work that one out.

The rest of it is in a box in my loft hidden away. 🤣

Once I’ve worked out the last time. I might consider it.

That was 7 years ago 😄

For me, different strains definitely have different effects but I can't claim to know the science behind it. I've not had a full shroom trip in years but microdose frequently and I've noticed differences in the effects as well as the strength/potency.

GTs are solid and reliable, 200mg of dried shrooms and I'm good to go. Steady, consistent and uplifting buzz which really helps when I'm in a low mood or stressed.

I've also had APE and APE reverts, both of which were noticeably more potent (only needed about half as much) but with the same type of effects as GTs.

I then had some Trinity Caps which were absolutely nuts. Tried going as low as 50mg and it was still too much. Very different experience too, like an emotional rollercoaster which was sometimes kinda fun in a way but also very unpredictable and not great for work days!

As already noted, it's quite likely an entourage effect from other compounds in addition to the psilocybin, similar to the way different strains of weed have different effects even though the THC is just the same chemically-speaking.

This answer speaks to me a lot, espeically regarding the potency. Pretty much sums up much of my opinion on potency; as someone who microdoses GT's myself, I find them and B+ most solid reliable. For me personally, 200-250mg is perfect, but if it's a spicy culture, 250mg can have be feeling a bit too energised. APE's seem reliable too, but I've had some which have sent me.

Entourage with weed edibles is a journey, for sure!

I hear alot about Penis Envy (Albino) ones.... These are very tempting. P.s. as an 'expert' what would be the best way to take mushrooms? Last time, I made an error by boiling them in a tea with other ingredients, and I later realised this pretty much destroys them (anything above 70degrees I read).... And certainly, I didn't feel a thing (not bought from yourself or LittleBiggy btw).

My understanding is that the myth of boiling water destroying psilocybin has been busted for a while now. In my experience, this hasn't been an issue for me (I don't know what you combind the shrooms with, maybe that had an interaction) but boiling in generally should be fine. Check Erowid for more details. https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info7.shtml

For other ways of uptake. Try lemon tek, it can help with uptake and those with stomach issues. For me personally, I prefer making a tea or smoothie.

In your case, something to bare in mind is it could also be result of a not so potent batch you had -- esp if you bought them powdered (powdered shrooms generally lose their potency fast) or the hasn't been stored well.

Thank you for your response, yes I think something we mixed in with the tea must have interacted negativity with the psilocybin. I think chewing on them or lemon trek (if I understand correctly, grind the mushrooms into powder, then soak in fresh lemon?) is the best way.

Yeah, lemon tek seems to help with the uptake, although a lot of people also claim this is placebo... imo, placebo is great even if it's true. It also helps people with digest issues with shrooms. Personally, I'm not too bothered about scoffing one down with a swig of a drink, but some people don't enjoy the taste.
MM x

Im really enjoying the Pink Kush TSM have, really hits the spot for me💜💚

Ah maaaaan. I ordered 4-5 different ones from spacey today. That was the one I dropped Bow 😭😭

Classic LB timing, Im actually enjoying the Blackwater a bit more but that's to be off menu now, hard to keep up.
What did you go for?

Churkle, Durban poison banana bread, something else naughty.

I'd be buying more but fees seem to have gone crazy, 11-12% at 6 am this morning. Aintnobodygottimeforthat

There's always something new as soon as you buy. Guaranteed. Or, the price drops / BTC rises.

I see the previous recommendations (which are extremely sound, and from biggas whose opinions I value), but if you want to get mashed and it's within your price point, I'd recommend the Venom OG from Kali Kush Farms. Mashes me and my tolerance is quite high.

Dawg


Sorry couldn’t help it

Peep Show

might even see me make a cameo or two

The secret ingredient is crime!!!!

I’ve just run to Windsor

Just started watching 'Spaced' again.

I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!

(yup showing my age)

It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)

Don't judge me!

Haha

Cheers BB

I'm in the middle of re-watching Spaced and felt like I had to scroll for hours to find somebody who finally mentioned it! xD

Oh my god I've got some fucking Jaffa Cakes in my coat pocket. :-)

Hahaha, we've all been there!

https://youtu.be/EcfVqsiesmU

lol. Must give this watch

Thank you - you just reminded me I need to re-watch spaced again!

I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..

Well I’ll judge you... if I could give 2 upvotes I would, agree with you totally, 2 of my fave ever shows, making me think of hitting Spaced up again...

I loved the shows of that generation. Nathan Barley. Day Today. Brass Eye also. Then The Mighty Boosh.

Holy shit the Mighty Boosh. 😂. Literally only just remembered it.

That crack fox still gives me nightmares. 🦊

The Wire
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World

This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations

Ah fuck it, nothing better to do, haha

The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time

The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression

Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan

Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before

People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.

Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this

Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to

Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha

Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one

Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today

Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too

The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature

Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series

It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics

Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next

The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer

Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.

The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences

Peep show one of my all time favs and can't to wrong with arrested development what a classic

Sad that they never manager to run the show normally... And probably we won't se another season ever :( love arrested development

good job bro

Peep show and shameless uk!!

Currently halfway through the first series of Altered Carbon after reading this thread and seeing your recommendation. I'm a PhilipKDick fan and I'm really enjoying it, cheers 👍

Dark on Netflix. German show about time travel set in a village where kids keep going missing every 33 years. Stunning production values, really intricately plotted, three series, all ties together. Loved it. Has an English dub but the German audio with subtitles is best.

Dark is a masterpiece. Watching S2 whilst really baked was transcendent

End of the fucking world is really good. Strange and offbeat which I like. With some characters that don’t give a fuck. And it’s British and very relatable (even though it’s about a lad that thinks he’s a psychopath haha).

Better call saul is must after braking baf.

100% but do you think you could watch them the other way round and it’s all still as good? As I really do, integrated them amazingly well.

Watched breaking bad, thought it was good, maybe a little over hyped, better call saul never really appealed to me, maybe I should try the 1st few episodes.

Cheers

I think it is better than braking bad

Yeah I agree, I liked BB a lot but I came to it a bit late and like UKgrower hearing the hype maybe expected too much. Better call Saul I didn’t expect much of at all, didn’t think it’d get past Series 1 but now I think it’s better than BB.

Defo watch Saul.
Really new is Gangs of London, not too bad. The fight scenes are brutal.

If you enjoyed Breaking Bad, then give Better Call Saul a go. I always thought he stole every scene he was in during Breaking Bad.

The Wire ...

Best show ever made.

Hum.....

this man knows.....

Succession

It’s a the best show in years imo

If you want a Change and a Tons of one line bombs to drop at work or with your mates there is only one place to go
"Letter Kenny" it will almost make you want to live there
10ply/Sally/Hard No and Bonny McMurryyyyyyyyyyyyyy

And if you want some of the best swearing on telly "The Thick of IT" / In The Loop
You will never watch a MP without Laughing again The Thick of it is almost a Documatary
Malcom Tucker is a
Best name calling every "Fuckbob Shitpants"

Sorry about the spelling
I am just dislexick @is there a strain that will help with this???

yes, they will all help make it worse. on the bright side, since everybody started typing on their phones, dyslexia is hardly noticeable anymore and you really don't have to apologise.

not a change if you just left that trailer park

My favourite show of all time is Bojack Horseman, trust me, give it a chance

Rick & morty puts any animated series in a corner sorry :p

Mindhunter on Netflix.

Still Game

Gomorrah if you dont mind subtitles, its an Italian crime show set in Naples. Simply brilliant.

Murphys law
Stargate universe, SG1, Atlantis
Firefly
The Expanse
Oz
Banshee
Person of interest
The shield
Hetty Wainthropp investigates

Gomorrah is the shit man, one of my all time favs
Oz is a downer but an awesome show

Ozark
Better call Saul
The wire
Boardwalk empire
Sopranos

Just watched Gangs of London which was banging
Chernobyl was a masterpiece

Yean Gomorrah is probably my number 1 show, the setting, actors, story... superb. Cant wait to watch the Ciro Di Marzio movie too.

Wow I didn’t even know that was a thing? When’s that out?

L'Immortale or the Immortal is the name, was out last year in Italy. Have tried to find out when its out in the UK but no joy yet

Nice one man, I’ll deffo keep my eyes open for that one.

Its on sky atlantic now mate, its certainly worth a watch an sets up the next season of Gomorrah nicely

Literally just finished watching brassic 2 and Save me Too. Both class. Surely everyone on here has watched Brassic.....!!!?

I do, doesn't quite hit the levels that Shameless did back in the day but still a lot of fun. Plus it's good to hear actual accents on TV instead of just American lol

If you like weird? Get baked & watch.

Channel 4
Garth marenghi's dark place ;-)
Robot chicken
Shivering truth

Father ted
The IT crowd
One foot in the grave
What we do in the shadows. Watch the film first.

Sandman - netflix
Red dwarf
Fast show
Inside no 9
The young offenders
The boys
15 stories high - sean lock's first tv series. on youtube but low quality.

Band of brothers
Chernobyl
Firefly
Curb your enthusiasm
Fawlty towers
Black adder
Black mirror
Dexter

Respect for Garth Merenghi, everybody should see that.

On that note, throw Mighty Boosh into the mix as well.

Big Train to round off a trio of lesser-known, top quality British comedies.

Recently finished Band Of Brothers...so good, as was its follow up The Pacific.

Have you ever watched Travellers? (if you was a fan of stargate back in the day this will interest you) or if your a sci fi fan, Very good story telling and actors (Canadian)

Another one for the list, cheers.

Just spotted the Ricky Garvacie ( sp ) afterlife season 2 is out, thought the 1st series was decent, so that's another to easy the lock down shit TV

i liked that a lot more than i thought i would. also, colony on netflix even though it was killed by covid and never finished.

I'm watching Detectorists at the moment. Really good. Funny and with beautiful scenery. On BBC iPlayer and Netflix.

Shout for detectorists.
Great theme tune btw.
Excellent characters.
Great series about the sackler family’s and there murderous medical misbehaviour ( painkiller )
Starring ferris bueller.

Lilyhammer on Netflix.
"A New York mobster goes into hiding in rural Lillehammer in Norway after testifying against his former associates"
Steven Van Zandt, or Silvio from The Sopranos, plays the main in this hilarious show

Emmerdale or Loose Women. The News at ten is good too.

the queens gambit!

Some of the things I've enjoyed are:
The Boys
Vikings
100
Only fools and horses
Into the Badlands
Breaking Bad
Picard
Game of Thrones ( Except the last season which I found terrible )
Star Trek The next Generation - Deep Space Nine
Stargate Atlantis
Treadstone

*The Queen's Gambit- short series (one season only) but good storyline
*Lie To Me
*The Mentalist
*Sherlock

Gomorrah

Ozark

Ifyou seen BB, definitely watch Better Call Saul.
Comedy? The Office US and then Parks n Recreation. Or maybe Shameless US? Little Britain it's always great company.
If you seen Broadwalk E, you probably have seen the sopranos. If not its a MUST! Ive been watching House of Cards and it's quite nice too.
Maybe 6 feet under, Weeds, Dexter, Chuck, My name it's Earl??
Cience? COSMOS!!! A mind blowing and mind opening cience series. Everyone should watch it before they die. Either the original and first with Carl Sagan (it might not have the best visual representations but Carl its Carl) or the new Neil Tyson.
In to some stand ups? George Carlin is a must, the young Carlin to the old political Carlin.
I would also like to give a shout out to my Spanish Fellows on THE Money Heist.

Orphan black! one of my favourites.. the wire.. Russian doll..cynical,funny. end of the fucking world. Money heist.. prison break..cleverly written. Better call Saul if you enjoyed breaking bad.

Rick and Morty and weed is my favourite combination. Snoop dog’s talk show on YouTube is hilarious to watch as-well.
I find American horror story hilarious, but only when I’m high, otherwise it’s pretty terrifying lol.

Films : seven psychopaths is a must watch, requiem for a dream and pulp fiction, all time faves. and I did write a detailed review and much more but it was deleted :/

Top Boy. Absolute banger. Uk breaking bad/scarface perhaps.

Yo UK Grower. I have just discovered Channel Zero on StarZplay, prime add on. It’s a really good horror series, twisted stuff, defo a bit freaky.

To any one who likes comedies don't be put off What We Do in the Shadows, it's vampires but it's not really a "vampire" type show.... it's really funny when high and the second series has just come out on iplayer.

Midnight Gospel. It's like a dmt trip mixed with a podcast. Amazing stuff

If you're into Sci-fi I'd highly recommend Altered Carbon on Netflix. Really cool story and visuals. I seen somebody recommended Ozark, excellent as well. If you like animation and feel like a laugh give Rick and Morty a watch, The Midnight Gospel is also new to Netflix but really trippy / funny in my opinion. Happy watching!

The Wire
Money Heist
Animal Kingdom
Community
Designated Survivor

Narcos

I almost pissed myself with laughter watching the first episode as I watched the trailer but wasn't really for how out there this really is. A must watch for any sci fi and gaming fan or if you have a sick sense of humour like me :)

Stranger Things Season 1 - 80's themed sci-fi thriller with endearing characters that had me on the edge of my seat throughout.

True Detective Season 1 - Basically an 8 hour movie that oozes quality. Pacing/cinematography/acting/dialogue are all A++ for me.

Trailer Park Boys - Get baked, watch this, laugh your arse off.

Peep Show - Clever and hilarious.

Sopranos, the Wire and Band of Brothers.

Band of Brothers is a masterpiece, great shout! Any recommendations of war films/series that are similar mate?