I don't expect many to understand, and it's not something you can relate to unless you've walked a similar path,but... during my traveling work days, I experienced more than once the need to carry a firearm.
permitted to carry concealed, allowed me the chance to go back home and see my family again.
you are entitled free speech and your freedom of views, just remember, the crime or bad folks don't follow ANY rules and could care less about your politics. take away the good man's right to protect himself, and become their next target, as security is just a word.
(understand that police have NO obigation to protect you or your family, they strictly uphold the law...)

very honest explanation, i disagree with extra respect.

You make a fine point but the statistics don’t lie. A developed country shouldn’t be 4th on a list with these others.

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Murder Rates (per 100k people) in 2017:*

El Salvador (61.7)
Honduras (41.0)
Venezuela (49.9)
United States Virgin Islands (49.3 [2012 data])
Jamaica (56.4)
Lesotho (43.6 [[2016 data]] per 100k people)
Belize (37.8)
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines (36.5 [2016 data])
Saint Kitts And Nevis (36.1 [2012 data])
South Africa (35.7)

no biggz, that's the virgin islands, an unincorporated territory of a few hundred meters.

Yes I was too hasty with that;) thanks

still kinda weird its a murder capital

USA are #64 in World rankings for intentional homicides/100k people

damn straight.

Because freedom is only delivered through the end of a gun (unfortunately)

And if you don’t have a gun someone with a gun will take your freedom away

The only part of history you can guarantee is true freedom comes at the end of a sword/gun

This is it, no tyrannical regime, dictator, kings or queens taking the piss were ever overthrown through mediation and peaceful actions, fire meets fire literally.

i don't think the american colonies outgunned england and i'm sure that's not how it went down in india or in the 1990s in eastern europe.

freedom is obtained through will and persistence like a lot of things around this earth.

Gandhi would agree.

I'll go with the penis fixation. I don't own a gun - don't want one - guns are for killing. It's the second amendment in the American Bible, er, "Bill of Rights". Funny thing is that the pro-life people are usually pro-gun. Just doesn't make sense.

Guns do not kill... the person using it KILLS... I use them to kill clay pigeons. and just imagine it's someone i hate. lol ;)

By that reasoning the murder rate in the likes of El Salvador, Honduras etc. is purely down to the types of people that live there and not to the availability of guns. Obviously incorrect. You need someone willing to kill AND a gun to shoot someone dead.

I wish the Bill of Rights was viewed as a bible around here.

I simply don't understand how a bunch of dead white men "grant" me my rights.

Would it help if they were live black women?

Tremendously.

I am not black but I am a 6'5' 300+ pound white mail. when I get out of my car I have yet seen my public servent have his on his gun when he see's me. I have never been shot , but I have been scared you never know when They might get scared and shoot. I am always as helpful and curtice I can makke cause I want to live and pissing of armed cops is not a healthy way to live. When they start treating you like shit , remember it will you a lot more then it will him.

Not saying you're fat but it's interesting that fat white dudes are credible rappers and also eyed by the police like black dudes.

Probably not.

No one can grant anyone rights, unless we agree that they can. Plenty folks will tell you you're not free unless unless always unless. You are free if you say you are. And you're not if you're not (royal you, not you you, but yes, also you 😜). You can be in a prison cell and be totally free. You can be a rich fat white cunt with acres of land and be completely imprisoned. It's in the mind. Sure, there may well be folks who contest your freedom, tell you you're not free, tell you you must this and you mustn't that if you want your "rights" intact. Nonsense. There, that's my two penny's (or cents, since the topic started in the US) spent and I'm skint for the night.

They didn’t. Our rights are God given and they are inalienable. The Bill of Rights protects them, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to work.

I’m not trying to start something here but I really want to understand how these rights are God given. Can you explain?

That’s ok. We are born free and we are born with certain God given rights, which are inalienable. This is just the way it is, like having a right to clean drinking water. We have the right to protect ourselves and our property. In the UK we still have the right to bear arms, but it has been hidden from us using legislation and obfuscation. Most people don’t understand that they are supposed to be free, so they put up with buffoons and paedo Freemasons dictating what they can and can’t do. This is one of the reasons why we pay income tax, which is unlawful but not illegal. The law is simple: No loss, no harm, no injury, no fraud.

Straw man stuff really opened my mind a good decade ago. The financial system is a good place to begin ones journey back into realising one was always free and one just didn't know it. Look at me, getting all queenly with the "ones". Did you say freemasons? 😉

Thanks for the response Camber I appreciate it but I’m still struggling with the God given bit. It’s not as if Moses came down from the mountain with a commandment saying Americans can have AR15s. I don’t mean to sound flippant I just don’t understand it

That’s ok, you’re not coming across as flippant.
“God given” is simply a term. It applies to atheists as well. Try to understand what it means to be born a free man. Eg: Monetisation of another man’s labour, without his consent, is slavery and it is unlawful. So why do we pay income tax? Did you consent to this?
The Founding Fathers were Christians, hence ‘God given’ Replace ‘God given’ with ‘pre-existing’

I edited my reply to you and it seems to have moved it from the thread, or did it?

It was a rural place and hunting was very common. If you start from that perspective and then think of the government coming in and taking the guns away you start to understand.

Not being American but my take on it is simply history, god made men Samuel Colt made all men equal… You can hunt so can provide for yourself and your family, you can defend yourself and your family from threats, and I guess Homer said it best with ‘If You Don't Have A Gun, The King Of England Can Just Walk In Here And Shove You Around’ And for Americans it was true, it’s the reason they were free, the gun. I think the vast majority of people would agree if there were NO guns then the world would be a better place, BUT if bad guys, police, army have guns and you don’t then you’re simply powerless to anyones will. So if they have guns yeah I also want a gun.

If arms were evenly distributed throughout history the world would be a better place.

I could be wrong but I’m sure the law to carry guns came into action as to kill Indians as white man was expanding in America.?

WHEN WILL WOMEN IN YOUR COUNTY GET THE SAME RIGHTS AS GUNS.

1. The Wild West is recent history in a young nation and was really really wild. Ditto the Civil War.
2. Hollywood is real. The good guy always shoots the bad guy. (With armed private citizens this is hardly ever the outcome, but who cares about reality?)
3. A lot of yanks are cunts?

I think this sums it all up

penis fixation/fear of loosing penis/fear of death

The right to bear arms is to shoot the British, not the Indians. The theory is if everyone has guns, the government can't be oppressive and tyrannical. In practice, however, you just end up with gut-shot schoolkids. Guns are fun though tbf

They need their guns lots of wild animals running about on two legs out their nuts on prescription drugs with guns.
Vicious circle where the usual suspects make lots of cash from social chaos and scaring the population.
Man you would think we would be over all this crap by now smh

It’s a national identity! They feel they wouldn’t be Americans without the ability to kill somebody instantly.

They won't let control guns but they want to stop abortions Ain't we dumb

It might be useful to differentiate the American people and American foreign policy. It seems you have conflated the two, whereas looking at the American people and domestic policy might yield better results. Guns are completely illegal in China and as we all know, China is one of the most liberated places to live on the planet! The second amendment in the US was created to provide a constitutional check on congressional power was as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense and resistance to oppression. My family live in the USA and right now, gun ownership is anything from a penis fixation, it's security and peace of mind. I would rather get shot than stabbed any day of the week. Knife crime is equally as concerning in my book.

Yes... China is that liberated.... they even give away their viruses for free.

I'm hoping that you picked up the sarcasm in my 'China is liberated' comment. Reading it back, it doesn't come across too clearly.

hear ya my friend. thought i was doing the same ;) with your comment. i read it both ways (with/without sarcasm) I wouldn't criticise either. just own my private thoughts lol. stay as safe as this "Pandemic" will let you. Gaz

Oh that's made my night that comment has.

ok what day is good for you

Fridays are cool with me :)

sorry Fridays I'm in love would you accept a heart atttack on say Wednesday or Thursday

Hernia Mondays?

No, the founding fathers recognised the likely leadership America was likely to get would be those psychopaths you identify - a neolib psychopathic war machine at the helm. Without the right to bear arms, the citizens of the US would be unable to defend themselves against these psychos in control. Have you not noticed that the MSM (totally controlled by the same psychos) is relentlessly pushing for "gun control" - can you not see their agenda here? To disarm the citizens of the US would be to disarm all potential opposition to these globalist psychopaths in their pursuit of a NWO, hence the relentless media to demonize gun ownership. Are you are aware that you are statistically more likely to die from an unprovoked knife wound in London than you are to die from an "unprovoked" gun shooting in the US?

It's self reinforcing, ignorant people are willing to spend more on killing people than education.

Weird way to spell indoctrinating 😉

be like here soon as we are the 51st state

just the permits for this would easily take over a decade now.

Super photos and perspective here, it was the China of its day :)

The architecture is next level. I'm often left scratching my head in amazement.

There is a lot of contoversial opinion and media covering the world fairs and associated expositions.

Not sure what ro make of it all to be honest 🤔

When I 1st read this topic I thought it was silly but now Im reading it the New York Times

And what does that tell you about the New York Times? That it's lying about Trump? Or is it just trying to mislead its readers by implying stuff that it has no evidence of... Do the same examination of other rumor-spreading fake news organizations and make your own determination, folks. See which ones allow readers to comment on their "stories" and articles. See which ones never present both sides of an argument. Decide which ones can be relied upon for actual news (all of it) and which ones actually suppress news.

There is no news that can be relied upon this is why the reader needs to take in multiple sources and viewpoints.

i think its a really mega trend. fascism was a reaction to kingdoms turning into modern nations. this time populism is a result of modern nations turning into global pieces.

Yes and there's the industrial revolution and digital revolutions as waves underneath these.

well put

The NWO is Communist

Fascism isn't inevitable if people get off their asses and vote.

What good is voting if the legislature is alfeady bought and sold?

Even Eisenhower, the General who defeated fascism saw what would happen. He became the President of the US and devoted his farewell speech to a warning of the future he correctly saw.

Forget Ike, Benjamin Franklin saw what would happen after helping write the constitution. He saw it as a temporary document that would require re-writing.

"it is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism"

As if it to prove the words they have been suppressed since he wrote them.

What's the source of that Franklin comment? I can't find it.

Its Franklin's Final Speach On The Constitution. What a guy, should be an inspiration for every bigga.

Thanks, seems Paine is stretching the context a bit.

Only Franklin never said that the Constitution would "require" re-writing (or anything else, for that matter). Nor did he even imply that it was "temporary". His comment only reflected the fact that this was a unique, first-ever document of its type and he wasn't sure that it wouldn't eventually end in despotism due to corruption. None of the framers "knew" what the future would bring, only that what they had made was the most perfect constitution ever made. Not "perfect" (although it may be), just "close to perfect".

Also what good is voting when the only choices are turds?

Ha this really looks funny now - people have since voted almost exclusively for fascism!

World War I was a fascist nightmare in the United States with Wilson and his cronies using it to attack all of their domestic enemies: African Americans, organized labor and immigrants. It was all documented by the media and no one cared. Helped us get where we are today as much as anything.

thats the worst part, fascism has taken hold by democratic election nearly every time

That's what happened in 2016, and it's a good beginning. More people are finding out that they've been lied to, and the liars are in full panic mode at this point.

I thought ww2 was one of the peaks of fascism

First thing to do is find out what "fascism" is. Most people are clueless about that. One excellent example of a fascist organization is Antifa (what an ironic name). Their goal is to shut down opposing ideas by force, and that's what fascist governments do (again, look up the word in the fucking dictionary). If you're going to accuse someone of being fascist, you need to show examples of fascist behavior. Guess who I'm vaguely referring to here...

Oxford Reference definition:

"An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach."

Now look up "right wing" and tell me how fascism is remotely related to it.

fascism is later stage communism, institutionalized corruption.

sounds kinda like horseshoe theory

ok throw in a little racism and hate where the communist idealism and naivete is and you're there.

Show your working (prove it)
Btw Fascism was defeated in UK and in WWII it was defeated in Italy along with National Socialism in Germany. There is nothing Fascist about our world. The Communists and Capitalists (same thing) won WWII and they are in control.

The URL you posted is a sufficiently disgusting QED

if nothing else a new approach to fascist propaganda would be appreciated.

Where is the Fascist propaganda coming from?

Here is another definition of fascism, this one from Merriam-Webster dictionary.

"1) A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

2) a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control."

The antidote to Fascism is Democracy.

Democracy, LMAO. If you control the media, you can get the public to vote anyway you like. What was democratic about the Iraq War, or the bombing of Syria?

There are many parallels between the definitions. I'll break them down for you - national/racial-centric; autocratic; dictatorial; anti-democratic; demagogic.

Precisely. Democracy in the UK is flawed, at best for sure. Fascists know the first stage of seizing control of a nation is to take control of its media.
I'm unsure what you're trying to achieve on here - is it to rehabilitate the image of Fascism?
Perhaps you could explain to us what Fascism is.

I’ve already provided a link to a resource where anyone can learn what it is. I’m still learning myself. Please show me which Fascists have taken control of the media. (Don’t waste your time, because they haven’t)

How am I going to learn about a complex political/cultural/social ideology and its historical/contemporary implications through a series of disembodied quotes and sexed-up photos of famous fascists?
Grow up, stop trolling & read some fucking books.

You misunderstand Camber - you're looking for a fight! I agreed with you, UK democracy is lacking. Historically, fascists took control of the media, to take control of a nation - see Germany, Italy & Spain.

I’m not looking for a fight at all. It seems like you don’t know who controls the media. In 1933 all Germany did was to take back control of the media, from the thieves who stole it.

The Jews? Come on man, you're better that, I'm sure of it. Stop getting stoned & researching pro-fascist groups - not a good combo. Get stoned & listen to Forever Changes!

"Everything I've seen needs rearranging,
And for anyone who thinks it's strange,
Then you should be the first to want to make this change,
And for everyone who thinks that life is just a game,
Do you like the part you're playing?"

You smokers are beyond retarded. We even tell you what we're doing and still you defend us. Stupid goyim deserve everything you get

Why are Fascists so angry?

I'm not a Fascist, I'm Ashkenazi as you already know. However, to answer your question: they're not, Liberals are far more angry and reactionary. The reason being, they are double thinking, mental gymnasts who exist in a constant state of cognitive dissonance. You're just stupid, is all

You sound pretty angry. Memes peppered with exasperated insults. It must be wonderful to have worked everything out, and very frustrating that everyone can't join the dots and see the world as you do. I think I'd be pretty angry too. A raging omnipotent deity.

You're not supposed to work it out. Your opinion of me is irrelevant. You can't refute facts with opinions. Just about every Ashkenazi I know, has known this since childhood, apart from me who only found out relatively recently (I can't explain that anomaly) Come on, Twigs, you have the Internet. Btw, we own Google. You should brush up on the Talmud, LMAO. You can downvote this too, if it makes you feel better.

I'm not in the least bit angry

Maybe you're just hungry?

You now know that the MSM, Big Tech, Big Pharma and The Federal Reserve (to name a few) are not controlled by Fascists. I can research Fascism and listen to Forever Changes. If you don’t know what Fascism is, cool! But please stop pretending that you do. Have you read the Talmud? Did you know that this is Talmudic, are you even aware of it?

I'd suggest you can't be researching Fascism with any integrity. You're in complete denial of the basic definition of it.

Fascism is a pretty simple concept that a homogeneous group of people are stronger than the Communist alternative. Sit the fuck down, imbecile

And suppose I don't want to sit down and pledge allegiance to your homogenous group? What then?

Another definition? How many are there, I wonder. Words can mean whatever people want them to mean, can they? No, they can’t.

This thread is hilarious. Everyone thinks they know what Fascism is. Someone even thinks Antifa are Fascists. Clueless

just as a sidebar, who is your favourite national socialist?

Yeah, that was me. What's clueless is calling Conservatives fascist. Young heads full of mush lapping up propaganda from old Marxist professors and thinking it's the wisest shit since Moses are the ones fucking up the planet at the moment...

You seem to be really struggling with words Camber, so here's a definition of Communism for you: "The belief in a society without different social classes in which the methods of production are owned and controlled by all its members, and everyone works as much as they can and receives what they need, or a social and political system based on this belief." From Cambridge Dictionary.

LOL, they also changed the dictionary definition of 'vaccine' Do some more copying of definitions, instead of examining who the Communists are and what they've been doing, smdh 🙄

Dictionaries are a useful place to start, when a bunch of flailing stoners are chucking around words like 'fascist' and 'communist'.

I’m not struggling with words at all. I’m just not doing a ‘cut and paste’ and expecting other people to accept it. There’s a link above to a Fascism group on Gab. That’s the place to learn about Fascism. If you think they’re wrong, go and tell them.

No Camber, you won't learn about Fascism on ticktock. Read some books about the 30s