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foster
by  foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
The author looks at ordinary people's lives as Hitler shocked the country into submission as he fought the "lügenpresse" - lying media.
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Deutsche Bud
Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.
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bertie hipster
It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...
stocks
You speak like leftism is the only legitimate political ideology.
Backwoods1999
Sadly we going to be finding out very soon that the majority of Americans want a semi-Fascist state the same with the uk population too
Construct
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but there is no left what we have are a bunch of globalists run by the rich (WEF) pretending to be left(the right aint much better) while sending lots of our tax payers cash and weapons to a bunch of nazi`s who took over Ukraine in a coup financed by the US who by the way also funded the 3rd Reich and only joined the fight in Europe when it looked like their little puppet the mad Austrian was going to get his butt kicked and Germany occupied by the Red Army.
Their plan is sinister it is to send all you youngsters to die in battle so they dont end up with a pension crisis after stealing all the pension monies.
Yes the 3rd great human cull has already started.
dr drek
the nature of misinformation is to use real facts and riff bullshit forward. that's sad in this case because there are some valid points that can be drawn from the cupla truths you have here.
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w4wendetta
ring really reminds me of the gestapo, they rolled almost exclusively through ordinary informants. people with fucked up biases are having their day.
+8
poop lion
The 1st thing Goebels did was put a device in everyone's home.
Chigga Supreme
why do they keep designing things to look like hal? doesnt anyone remember how the movie ends?
+9
downHillz
I usually pass out way before the end
+5
yourbestinterest
not to worry its the worst part
+4
green face killa
where there are informants there is vendetta, blackmail and corruption
+1
therealStoneLee
Any smart device
+8
porompon
Why the dystopian views are always referred to Nazism and not to Communism? They are basically the same shit, and Communism looks much more dangerous to me, because it "succeeded" for many more years, in many more countries, and for some reason has that glamorous look to so many idiots...
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24601
Germany became increasingly polarized with people espousing Marxism on one side and Law and Order on the other. This is exactly how it feels in America now.
+7
Super Hans
LOL very interesting take on history there
+1
ohShorties
? pretty much the mainstream view on this for germany as well as austria and italy
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Super Hans
AND JUST LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING APOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF "COMMUNISM". AT LEAST IT WAS ACTUALLY FUCKING COMMUNISM BACK THEN AND NOT JUST WHATEVER IS NOT ON THE RIGHT
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doc holiday
and fucking communism works wonders for the ugly
+0
oasis
from each according to his sperm
+3
Traininvain
Watching the Plot Against America on Sky and it’s easy to see how Facism takes hold. Not dissimilar to Trump’s America.
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Cal-fornication
In times of economic and political strife extremists always rise, whether left or right wing...it doesn't matter, they are reactionary's. For example the liberal left intend destruction of things about history that upset them much in the same way Nazi's in Germany burned books. People need to learn from History and rarely do, the same mistakes are repeated and things somehow trundle on. 'Good times bring weak people', 'Weak people bring bad times', 'Bad times bring strong people' & 'Strong people bring good times'. The great circle of human history.
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FlowerPower1
I thought it was the republicans (ie the right) in America banning certain aspects of history they don’t like.

Who are the liberal left?

Edit
I’m not trying to start an argument I’m trying to understand
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Cal-fornication
lol it's different in different countries. A conservative in the US is different from a conservative in the UK.

As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.

Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.
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FlowerPower1
Thanks for the response mate.

I still don’t get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues aren’t history they glorify the subjects for posterity.

Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?
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Cal-fornication
Well the statues are an example. They are subjects for posterity but they also memorialise history and certain points in history. As such they connect themselves to that history.

I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.

I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.

Also CRT?
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FlowerPower1
Thanks for the response mate.

I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally don’t put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.

CRT
Critical Race Theory
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Cal-fornication
Yeah np, I don't mind a bit of debate.

Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.

There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.

I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.

But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.

This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".

So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD
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FlowerPower1
Thanks man I do appreciate your time and input.

It’s good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear

I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police

Have I got that right?
+1
Milogreen
You sound very naïve & to support CRT is crazy, hope you don't spout the sort of nonsense politics we see above IRL.
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FlowerPower1
I don’t know how supporting a data driven legal critical evaluation by experts as naive maybe I’m missing something in your post as it doesn’t really make sense and yes i do discuss this topic and others with real people
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zeppomarx
an act of desecration is often more a monument of history than the original statue
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grits
this old post is aging disturbingly well
putin assassination strategies
at tes
by  at tes
If we don't need authority for trust what do we need it for?
Inheritance tax should be abolished?
Tenpester
by  Tenpester
The Weakness of the Despot
w4wendetta
The factory workers who fought fascism from Glasgow
24601
by  24601
what would the world look like if we had a choice of countries?
bayou
by  bayou
Will Drones Destroy Border Controls?
Tenpester
by  Tenpester
want to end war? hold the weapons makers liable.
zeppomarx
by  zeppomarx
big tech races to world war 3
mrcarta
by  mrcarta
The more you go fascist the closer we get.
theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit
theStrokes
what if they go nuclear?
bBoi
by  bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
JK Rowling Vs the SNP Hate crime laws.
doctor doc
is the coronavirus bio warfare?
Networks Not Nations
silk worm
by  silk worm
"Civilization" set back human health and happiness for thousands of years.
Tenpester
by  Tenpester
A list of alternatives to nations
全金
by  全金
c02 emissions by country
Decentralised legal System
bit poppa
by  bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?
ike
by  ike
List of countries by income equality
Tenpester
by  Tenpester
it didn't have to be this way
all murderers are punished unless...
defnote
by  defnote
21 Times When Coffee was Illegal
Han duo
by  Han duo
China kills AI chatbots that learn to praise US
iron jizz
by  iron jizz
will the chinese gov say sorry?
Why are the governments of the US and Russia adversaries?
history's greatest murderer is now its greatest hacker
foster
by  foster
I'm not a national I'm a local -Taiye Selasi
What Is The Thucydides Trap?
iron jizz
by  iron jizz
End of nations: Is there an alternative to countries?
w4wendetta
World Riot I
alpo
by  alpo
Do they not teach history anymore?
Tenpester
by  Tenpester
How Do REgular Chinese People Feel About The Virus?
SlimShadow
Governing People (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy entry)
Strain for anxiety over impending coups?
Is Economic War Enough?
theStrokes
Cornell West on Neo Fascism
A new nation in Europe: Liberland (nyt.com) 
World Health Organisation petition
sarek
by  sarek
How Governments Introduce Surveillance Under Veil of Coronavirus Control
Trust in Government Is Collapsing Around the World (atlantic.com)
ingasway
by  ingasway
What countries are least targeted by terrorists?
poop lion
by  poop lion
Is Canada Fascism's Only Remaining Opponent?
neopulp
by  neopulp
Which country best recognizes online rights?
Futarchy: The Patch For Democracy
Is Europe Disintegrating? (ny review of books)
jonjon
by  jonjon
Culture and dissent evolve in Singapore's new native language
jez
by  jez
Is there a big Pan-Arab Sports Tournament?
DJ MJ
by  DJ MJ
World War III (new york times)
neverEnuff
Post Modern War: Killing for Ratings
zephy1
by  zephy1
Why is a country considered primitive if its population is actually growing?
louse zoo
by  louse zoo
Cato Institute Rates Nations For Human Freedom
Canadian Freeloaders (economist)
bigg topics