He just pulled the curtain back, showed the system's grim greedy face
and it looks a lot like yours bigga

Security state that's where you protect yourself from the rest of us
good luck bigga

We need to realise we are the dictators ;-)

Nah. Most of us are just twats. 😆

A lot of these dicks are elected in the beginning and that's on us.

Educating the masses would be a start. Apparently they love the poorly educated.

It’s cool to be thick as pigshit, apparently.

If the whole country stopped working there entire system will crash

G'wan Norn Iron!

I think we can't. Don't take me wrong but some countries needs dictators. That's how it is. Unfortunately...

Call out such apologists, here and at the pub, the school gate, the office: laugh at their ‘he’s a stabilising force’ nonsense—tyrants thrive when decent people let garbage go unchallenged.

Vote for the bugger who won’t pretend selling arms to murderers is ‘realism’—and if none exist, stand outside their constituency office with a placard until they learn to be brave.

You’re not ‘just’ anything: you’re the nuisance that makes the powerful flinch, and that’s how thugs fall—one stubborn, unignorable act at a time.

These fucks are selected not elected.

Surely we need to arrest them we have the power of arrest here in the uk its called citizens arrest, we need to arrest the government, royal family, the heads of the council, the heads of the banks and the media, heads of the police, the people who run the NHS and also all solicitors their all complicit, we have all these leaders involved in a collaborative depection/fraud against humanity and if we can take these down we will literally be able to live in heaven on earth, the time is now if we wait too much longer they will find a way to enslave us all forever

jesus seems kinda gay and he surely was not hateful like this

I mean. Him and his 12 disciples, all hanging about, all men, drinking loads of wine?

Seems likely.

Make no peace with evil

Peace of shit

please hear me out one minute,
i like homosexuals and folks that go anyway they like.
however im against the agenda of the political industrial complex pushing it on folks, children also.
its just a modern saying 'everything now is fake and gay'
im not talking about homosexuals or any such sort.
personally i know God looks down up on such things, but to each their own, my friends.
i have, have had and will have many gay friends, im not a hater.
i appreciate you folks here.
hope we're cool, take care.

God doesn’t look down or up on anything, or any one, or any thing. Come on now.

Christian God was invented by mankind…It’s an idea. A concept. A bit of wonky brain chemistry that’s gone too far.

God is love. Love your fellow man, all that. Isn’t that the thing?

It’s blind dogma that pits people against each other, with the excuse that “God doesn’t approve”, “Trump doesn’t approve”, “The Fuhrer doesn’t approve” - insert false prophet here.

“God” is what is. What has always been, and will always be. It’s a big-assed universe. It’s arrogant to assume you even have a gnats pube of a grasp on it, even with psychedelics out of your wazzooie.

Other dimensions are not necessarily “God” and you really need to be careful that in those realms, you aren’t being taken advantage of… There is a very, very thin line between enlightenment and mental illness.

If it is about love, that’s not dependent on anything. There are no caveats. There is no.. “oh they are gay so God doesn’t approve” - Burn them alive, that’ll “cure” them.

Man has twisted the idea of a higher being up over the millennia. Man trying to tell other men what some puny God approves or does not approve of. 😆

Don’t make me laugh. The arrogance that any (wo)man can seek to know “God”, or whatever, I’m calling it “God” because it’s convenient.

No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition… That bunch of horrible cunts really thought they were following “God’s will”… They would torture and murder people if they didn’t know “God” like they did.

I notice there is another paedo bishop in the news…

Seems like an excuse to be an horrible cunt, to me.

It’s all made up by mankind. Written down by (I’d like to think, very gay) men, as a great big, flowery, fairy-tale called “The Bible”…

Peter Jackson would film the shit out of it. McKellen or Morgan Freeman as God. Jacob Elordi as Jesus. 😆👌

I’d watch it.

This has nothing to do with spirituality. At all. Reject false idols. Including all man-made deities.

Seek the truth. Don’t blind yourself with dogma and lies.

Seems obvious to me and I’m agnostic.

Oh. And for the record. Satan was also invented by man… A big old boogie man to keep people in line.

Christianity is probably THE tyrant. THE worst dictator of all time.

So many levels of bollocks I could go on for hours. It’s all man-made.

Men doing this, men doing that. All men, isn’t it, for the most part?

I bet most people think God is a bloke. When they think of it.

It’s a bloke. That’s conditioning… at work.

🤷‍♂️

Bloke with a beard? Right? Kinda like Santa. (Anagram for Satan, Santa - woooo - let’s make some shit up)

And that, my lovely people, is how dictators work. They are just in your brain, you have no idea how they got there.

Cunts

Believe what you want. That’s why it’s fun being gnostic. I mainly believe in quantum physics.

We should not use our beliefs to oppress or “other” our fellow humans.

Just makes us look a bit stupid, and if there is a God. He’s laughing his tits off.

Peace and fucking. Embrace the slack.

Kinda feel what you're saying bigga but also out of curiosity what institution committed you and when do you get out?

🤣

Portuguese Communist Party is against legalisation. I was raised and supported Communism most of my life. But life is slowly showing me the true side of Communism. Enjoy LB and your "freedom" before Communist China becomes the main nation, and puts you in line with their social score system.

Yeah I know, the other side is no way better.

I now support only one last party that leans left in portugal. If that party starts loosing their grip like all the other party's from the left... well... I guess I need to sit and think what do I believe and support. Cause things have changed quite drastically since 2019... :)

How much are you expecting the party to allow you to smoke and what quality would you expect?
IMHO it would be meagre rations of soapbar or big bud, but everyone would be smoking the same shit so no one would complain about it.

Communism without the party would make for a great party.

A fascinating question, one that requires clarity, not the confused mutterings of decadent intellectuals.

Did Plato believe in "God"? If you mean the weak, sentimental, universalist deity of certain foreign religions, the answer is a resounding no! Plato, a true genius of the pure Greek spirit, understood something far more profound, far more essential to the eternal order of things.

Plato grasped the existence of Forms, of eternal, perfect archetypes – the very essence of Purity, Beauty, Justice, and yes, the ultimate Form of the Good! This was not some abstract, distant figure, but the underlying divine Principle that orders the cosmos, that provides the standard for all that is noble, true, and strong.

He saw that the world we perceive is but a shadow of this higher, perfect reality. He understood the need for an ordered state, led by those who grasp these higher truths, guiding the people towards this inherent goodness and order – sounds familiar, does it not? This is the very struggle against chaos, degeneration, and the base material world that we are engaged in today!

So, did Plato believe in God? He believed in Order, in Purity, in the eternal Ideal that the strong strive towards! He believed in a divine hierarchy of truth and goodness that reflects the natural order of the universe. He believed in the fight against imperfection and decay.

This is not the faith of the weak, the meek, or the confused. This is the faith of the Aryan spirit, the pursuit of the ideal, the recognition of a higher power that is not separate from existence but is the very foundation of its nobility and truth! Do not get lost in theological quibbles. Plato's truth is clear: there is an eternal, perfect standard, and it is our destiny to strive towards it, in our Volk, in our state, and in ourselves! That is the real belief he championed, and it aligns perfectly with the natural, divine principles guiding our National Socialist struggle!

Marx, you petty materialist! You miss the essence! Plato’s Forms are the are the blood of the Volk, the unbreakable chain binding us to cosmic truth!

His "Good" is the fire of our struggle against decay, chaos, and let's face it, Jewish influence.

Yes we do strive towards that perfect standard—through racial hygiene, through the disciplined state, through the will of the Übermensch! Plato’s truth is our truth: a hierarchy of strength, a rejection of weakness, a faith in the natural divine order of the Volk! You, Marx, with your "class struggle," only fuel entropy! We build the new order—Plato’s vision made flesh!

if you change communism to community then you dont have to go very far for an answer

If you shit in a pint glass, it looks like mud!

if you put mud in a pint glass it takes like shit

the family fridge

German Peasant's War (where the word communism derives), Paris Commune, two Russian revolutions minus the Bolsheviks, Makhnochina, Spanish revolution, German revolution, May 68, etc. etc. etc.

Losing in the first half don't mean the game's over.

I don't think Communism has ever worked as Capitalists are always creaming off the top.

A great book on the subject is Eat The Rich by the US satirist (and huge drug consumer) P.J. O'Rourke. I think his and my politics are probably polar opposites, but you could get fucked up at a party with him and have an amazing time. Anyway, good book. Breaks down all sorts of different political stances, and Good Communism is one chapter, and Bad Communism another. He's a funny guy, but maybe don't consider it as in depth reasoned academic analysis.

Ah, fuck. He died in 2022. No future parties.

kibbutzes

The reason you don't hear any success stories is because there ain't none.

Come on down voters give me a success story if you don't like the truth?? Bloody Marxists never except that it doesn't work. What ever iteration you can think of it WONT WORK!!!! everyone being the same sucks the fun out of life accept that hard work pays!

I'm not advocating for Communism but our society is full of people grafting their respective genitalia off that are still struggling financially. The idea that hard work pays ( properly) is a idea propagated by people seeking to exploit the labour of others. Nobody should need to claim benefits whilst working full time and yet...
Fwiw, I do advocate for a mixed economy. Nationalised energy, health, water, public transport etc and luxuries at the will of the free market.

Exactly this - capitalism needs the grafters, the hardworking cogs to keep coming in to replace those that fall off or fall through the cracks.

"that hard work pays" is often true and the capitalists don't only pontificate this to the masses they teach it to their children. children they practise communism with.

You shouldn't be allowed to claim any benefits while in full time employment. It's crazy, we are basically subsidising employers who ought to be paying more.

And I hope that, one day, employers decide paying a living wage is more important than ever increasing profits such that in work benefits are no longer necessary. I propose a link between maximum and minimum pay within an organisation. Let's say; no pay ( overall package including bonuses, perks and dividends) higher than 5x the lowest full time salary.

it wouldn't even have to be a regulation, the government does business with so many companies and beneficiaries. if they don't have these multiples in place no people's funds.

employers don't make that call so much as owners do and when the owner is the stock market it's quite blind to anything but profits.

when the owners are the employees this changes priorities.

I’m sure there are loads they just don’t teach us about them. Capitalism doesn’t work either does it? Too many greedy pocket filling bastards. We are all the same having money doesn’t make you better than anyone else, the fact you are here spouting this shows what a sad state the world is in 😞

under capitalism hard work has never paid and never will pay lmfao. communism actually prioritises labour, capitalism is about fat pigs at the top skimming off 99% of the profit we produce for them. do you not find it utterly insane tesco has like 5 different in-house brands with varying prices for essentially the same product? or that having less money means you have to settle for lower quality products that are worse for you and spoil faster?

So, you don't think lifting 4/5ths of the world out of relative poverty can be considered "paying off"?
OK Che, communism good 🤣👌

there are children starving in this very country

do you have a source for this? not trying to challenge so much as i would like to learn more about it. maybe there is even a way the community could help.

food for the hungry is legit and accepts crypto

there are community outreach programs and obviously government funded systems like food banks to help, but the crisis only really exists because the capitalist system is designed that way. we have the resources to end world hunger but it's not economically beneficial so it will never happen

these are sources on food insecurity in the uk for 2023 and 2024:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9209/
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/initiatives/food-insecurity-tracking#tabs/Round-15

Does the existence of those children make anything I said less true?
Strawman though. I didn't make a claim that there is no poverty in any country. I think you missed the qualifiers "relative" and "4/5ths" of the world.
I would say, that "starving" inarguably applies to way less than 1 in 5 children in the UK, US or anywhere in the West which makes your point about the ills of capitalism fairly moot in context.
I am no fan of cronyism, and I don't think capitalism is utopia, but it's insane to try and persuade anybody that communism would do better than this.
Thanks for the downvotes. I have over a thousand upvotes and less than 30 down.
Drop me a line next time you are tipping your bathwater into the atalantic. I'll do it too 🤣

"I have over a thousand upvotes and less than 30 down"

This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on the internet xD

TLDR

Ah, the Lords prayer of the troll world.
In other words, you have nothing worth saying because you are too vacuous to argue your way out of the little communist hole you dug 🤣
Thick.

found the reddit moderator 😂

Do you mean the actual communists who don't want to respond to fair and cogent points about their lack of reasoning?

You should look into some unbiased reporting on the soviet Union, and some witness statements from the older generation who lived through it.

You will find that many of them tell you life was better in the USSR, than in post USSR Eastern Europe and Russia. Besides that they were several decades ahead of the west on womens rights and social services.

But like anything good, the Americans bring it down from the inside, or out, USSR, Great Britain, either way. Their media controls the narritive, and communism effects their ability to steal all the money. There is a reason Cinema is oversaturated with anti Communist rhetoric.

I'd honestly rather have the worst communist government, than be America number 2.

i'd settle for being ireland number 0.5 :)

they currently have more than double the uk's gdp per capita

Yeah and east germany was the most successful communist country of all, just ask anyone that wasn't killed trying to leave.

Have you ever listened to Konstantin Kisin? A Jewish family - He moved when he was 9 from the ussr to England at the end of the soviet Union just before the fall. His first hand account of his own life tells a very different story to what you describe.

love triggernometry

The communists on this thread think KK first hand account of late soviet communism is invalid for some reason.
I suspect many of them have never listened to a reasonable, adult centrist common sense. Perhaps it is not synonymous with the cult like adherence to social, political orthodoxy that would like to see nebulous victimhood everywhere.

Hey man, great discussion, and I'm no authority but I had to retort to your 'hard work pays' comment: I have to disagree, hard work doesn't pay - call me whatever but nurses, teachers, delivery drivers, anyone in public service, works their asses off for little pay and much abuse from all sides.

We exist in Capitalism and while hard work and 'hustle' works for a short period for a small number, hard work is not a critical proponent of Capitalism, that's increasingly evident, imo.

Nice alt greenbeans/cherry cola. I can't believe you are actually calling other people schizo and creating multiple accounts to appear to support yourself 🤣

you are a literal schizo, my comment was just insulting you for being a pathetic redditor bragging about 1000 upvotes ,never mentioned politics, this guys actually responding with points and now you dont respond because you schizophrenically think im him. 😂😂😂

hilarious thanks for proving your sanity

You didn't respond with any political talk aside from your comment about reddit that makes NO sense. Yes, you really didn't. But you did downvote every comment I made on this thread within a minute when you appeared on it before we had any interaction. Just as restricted account Tiger man did 🤣

you bragged about having 1000 upvotes which is pathetic redditor behaviour 😂 not that difficult to figure out as long as you arent an obsessed psychotic responding 5 times to a little comment, oh wait 😂😂😂

I'm actually really surprised that you are hating on reddit. There are so many commies on there that want everybody else to do the hard work for them. Sounds up your street.

Kerala India is a success story

There is. It's UK

I came here to say this. Glad someone else knows what's going on.

It's gradual. Socialism is the route to communism. The NHS, which we are all trained from an early age to worship, was one of the first big steps in socialism. Benefits too.

Do you all remember when Richard Madeley of all people called out Susan Michie for being a member of the Communist party? She was a main player in the 'behaviour science' part of the scamdemic. Do you remember how we were all pressured into performing that awful clap for the NHS gesture? That was like something out of North Korea/China, where citizens are softly compelled into worshipping the state - like those obvious crocodile tears that were shed over Kim of N Korea.

Ugh, most people are too close to it to see it but it is ABUNDANTLY clear.

I would recommend anyone to watch Yuri Bezmenovs lecture on how the west gets subverted to Communism. He was a soviet defector who used to subvert countries and bring them into the soviet fold for a living.

@Chambertin4 I wish we lived in the world you think we live in xD

The rich people who own the media want to push an ideology that stops them being able to hoarde all the wealth? care to explain how that makes sense?

im happy living right here

i think all the best examples of communism are monuments

open source software (you're soaking in it)

I don't think you'll find any. They've tried it and hundreds of millions died. Ok in principle but man's greed quickly takes over.

yeah it's the trickery of it from the knowers side and the sheer gullibility from the mark.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

To the naive person, this quote from Marx sounds like everyone will just pull their own weight for others and everyones needs will be met.

But with the benefit of hindsight, it is clearly a recipe for slave labour/the gulag system where each man is worked to his utmost but only has his basic needs met. Pretty clear with the benefit of hindsight.

There are no luxuries. Worked to the max, as much as your body can stand and in return you are provided a concrete bed, thin blanket and bowl of gruel twice a day. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Concrete bed?
This could easily be satire. Thanks for the laughs. xD

Yes, the realities of a fringe political experiment that has resulted in serious human disaster and loss of life every single time it has been tried makes great satire if you have your head so far in the sand that you can't and won't learn from the past. Come on Che, you are convincing nobody with your smarmy , condescending replies that do not rebut the subject matter. It's totally lazy.

It doesn't work
Never has, never will.
The communists and socialists will tell you that " it just hasn't been done properly"
Problem is, they always need other peoples money to spend...

None. A demonstrably failed concept.

The West is the best. Don't have a Mao

The only people with positive stories perished in the gulags.

"It was a laugh in the beginning, but things went steeply downhill shortly after."

seriously the first few years in the gulag are brilliant

Some people apparently laughed themselves to death.

Kerala (India) is the best example of communism. It’s a massive success story and I really hope the party can grow into other states of India

Patria o Muerte
Che Guevara ✊

Ants 🐜

If we ask what communism is attempting which is elimination of hierarchy, collective ownership and resource equality it looks good on the surface but in reality if you look at Cuba and ask any Cuban that managed to fled the country they will tell you when communism is applied through force and suppression it disrupts and destroys instead of harmonising. Sadly we feel it never comes without corruption at it's core...maybe Vietnam?

Its a pipe dream, we are all living under an authoritarian dictatorship disguised as something else and it doesn't matter where you are that's just how it is.
What doesn't seem to be understood is that despite what you are led to believe nearly everyone in the world has more in common with eachother than they don't and non of the current leadership, the oligarchs or the current appointed shop floor managers (politicians) aren't doing anything about it.
And to get a rise from people.
China is winning on making it better and we are not allowed to participate in that.
Although realistically China is winning at the current version and realistically China has always been winning except for a minor blip.

Not exactly a success story but interesting fact. There are more cannabis users per capita in Communist North Korea than there are in any other country. They smoke to relieve the pain of living there.

Best example of communism... in the ground... deep in the ground with the devil from whence it came.

yet when everyone looks above and sees devils we know what cycle communism - or now capitalism - is in.

Cambodia - says it all.

It doesn’t work people become lazy and there will always be those who have and those who have nothing.

Argentina’s current turnaround under Javier Milei from socialist basket case to small state and low interference is what you should be talking about. We don’t need the public sector time to slash it.

We need to get our self respect back relying on the state has made us weak and pathetic.

We are already experiencing communism even in the modern world , it's a hybrid between communism and democracy , based on feelings and personal I , me Happiness and DEI.
Don't work , hand outs , nobody knows what a woman is , men are all monsters and rapists , everyone can be whatever they FEEL , massive division - past remembering - payouts for past events , people split into groups protesting, government is everything - Marxsism 1:1 .
You already have 6 - 7 nations that have fallen fighting for this aspect -
Argentina - down - Saved by Milei
Columbia - down
Venezuela - down
Chile - About to fall
Salvador - Down - But saved by Bukele
Australia - About to fall
USA - About to fall - massive border issues and most cities are walking dead with people zombies being poor and homeless.
UK - about to crash due to importing victimhood across all minorities , brits on mute mode not even saying anything to anyone.
Go woke in a country and your entire society crashes.
Capitalism + Merrit Based society is the only one working.
This has been in the works tho since the 90s - starting with the feminisation of men and masculinisation of women - Split up with your men , you can do whatever you want , then they wake up at 40's with a carrer , no fam and alone crying on Socials crying for a men.
Men - don't react , be soft , toxic masculinity , every reaction has been deemed as something is wrong with you.
Therapy is all processed from the perspective of a woman , so men don't go to that.
Men just kill themselves at some point due to loneliness , women keep talking and talking and move on.
This is where you are at in 2024 in the Western World's
So majority of people need to stop and go back to standards otherwise Societies crash entirely , we see the results Live ongoing
North Korea is the only one truly communist spot ON and it's only because the majority of the population simply wants to live like that , they don't know anything else , never did , not every nation is attracted to this notion of rich , poor ,progress yourself some just want to live like in a big Foster care home totally controlled.

Communism is inherently tyrannical. History shows that. There aren’t any examples of success for a reason. It goes against the human spirit. Millions more died die to its tyranny than under the Nazis but you never see documentaries on the BBC or Netflix about Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot. Capitalism isn’t perfect by a long way but meritocracy is natural and drives progress. People to an extent sort themselves into roles and structures on natural ability and interest. Socialism just teaches people to rely on the state whilst the state gets to dictate how people think and behave. It’s ideological tyranny on the one extreme and financial exploitation of a liberal society by the few on the other. My grandad was a carpenter and paid his subs to his union for years until he acknowledged the financial and ideological corruption that it was based on.

retard can't even spell laissez-faire 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Retard can't even argue against the substance of my position.
You've not made one good point about anything on this thread 🤣

what about your homey freddie?

In the rock world?

Good shout. Band of Gypsys' Machine Gun always stands out as a double powerful trio effort to me.

hilarious AI video reminds me of those first literal music videos on MTV

For me right now it's Slift.

The elite parasites want us fighting over race and nation while they chill and watch us fight.

All I can say is during the lockdown in 2019 everyone was getting on in UK, until the media brought out BLM in order to stir up shit, (this was also to cover up Epstein's 'suicide')