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Dbo
by  Dbo
Gateway drug or not the ultimate debate!
Hi guys I’d like to get peoples opinions on whether you think it’s a gateway drug weed or is it more a case of people with addictive natures seek these other things out regardless of whether the great green erb opens the door or should I say gate lol
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william.com
Alcohol is the gateway. I’ve proved that to myself at this exact moment. I’m in Amsterdam, haven’t touched alcohol or any other narcotics in 3 years. I haven’t went a day without a smoke longer than youngster’s on here have had pubes🤣. Anyways decided I would have a beer, and I knew I was a changed person. My urge to go wild was there. I don’t mean violence, I mean the false confidence, the urge for more drugs and the amount of pish I would talk to my Mrs(not cheeky). Alcohol ruins life’s, I’ve continually watched this happen with family members. Just my opinion. 😁
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Dbo
Oh alcohol no doubt that’s when the bugle and other things can easily creep in and alone it’s destructive beyond belief but I do believe weed too young can be very addictive as the brains not fully developed and I’ve seen straight weed smokers when there was a drought end up on the Brown 🤦‍♂️ I think as an adult with pretty good mental health it can be a miracle for the mind and healing.
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william.com
I’ve have my mental health problems and always will have. I used to plead with my dad not to drink from a very young age as I grew up with its destruction. In my opinion you shouldn’t even mention the two things in the same conversation. I am an addict myself, I used to self medicated every day since I was 14 and that started for me with booze. We all have different opinions so there’s no hate here, I feel equipped in life with a good knowledge of these subjects, but I battled through till I was 45 and that’s when things changed in my life for the better. I used the brown for 2 years at the age of 25-27 for my anxiety as the Valium didn’t work no more. We’re all different mate, nobody will ever have your experiences. I’m smoking some good shit by the way. 🤣🤝🏻
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Dbo
I pretty much always notice a correlation in the weed and drink being used for past trauma and mental health medications but in my personal experience with addictions and the such with trauma you’re literally just putting a plaster over a gaping wound and expecting it to heal itself and if you’d seen some of the people I’ve seen clucking picking joint buts up from the ground people become addicted to brown because could t get weed I’d say some people are just wired different and will seek solace in any addiction that temporarily relieves the pain in head or body and some folks are blessed to just get the munchies watch some great moves and feel iriee 👌 loving the discussion and peoples perspectives and personal experiences.
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william.com
All good mate, the way I went was CBT, 3 years figuring out my problems and once I knew, changes everything. I now say every day we learn if you can be bothered. 😮‍💨🤝🏻
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Boooba
I personally wouldn’t say so, weed was about the seventh substance I tried and it never made me crave much else. I think it did the opposite and made me calm down my use of other substances. I would say, though, that the communities I’ve joined and friends I’ve made while partaking have been the biggest influence on me trying other substances, which seems to also be in line with what Shetlad said.
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Dbo
I think you went the other way most people start with the weed but you went uppers? Then I imagine the weed was like a big chill compared to a mad buzz and comedown and you found your friend in weed.
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Boooba
I definitely started things very weirdly. I don’t think I’ve actually done any uppers. I started with DMT and fell in love, binged that and a bunch of other psychedelics for about two years before I started weed, tried ket and MDMA but never liked them that much. Sober on psychedelics for a year and a half now due to severe hppd. I’ve definitely found my friend in weed, but man is it hard to moderate. I’ve been able to get my consumption down to .5-1g a day with a ball vape, whereas before it was 2-3G+. Even with just .5 a day, the brain fogs awful, so will probably need to decrease more.
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Dbo
I’m one for a ego reset every year I’ll do a run of shrooms and a few big trips seems to help my depression for up to a year each time before I find it creeping back in like nosferutu lol that’s a great decrease in consumption but you’re not going overboard but it’s all person maybe try a bit of L lions Maine mushrooms supposed to be good for brain function.
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Shetlad123
I think smoking cannabis gives people with addictive personalities access to other drugs. You tend to gravitate towards fellow stoners, some of whom may partake in other substances, allowing access to it. Sometimes it's a regional/locality thing, some areas some drugs are easier to access.

This is my opinion though, yours may vary and is of no less importance than mine.
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Dbo
I agree and growing up around it all I’ve seen how people can slip so easily into other stuff and I’ve also witnessed plenty of people who are able to treat weed like an occasional drink me on the other hand I’m completely hopeless when it comes to weed I’m either all day everyday or nothing at all I’ve never been able to just have the occasional joint so I’d put myself in the addictive nature category lol great response thanks for the input 👍
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Shetlad123
Hey man, I smoke (Dry Herb Vape) daily/nightly, work dependent.

I don't think I have a problem. Do you think you have a problem? We all see these things differently. I am quite happy to be sober for work and have a smoke in me the rest of the time.
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Dbo
You sound like you’re good with your consumption and you’re working and doing other stuff so sounds pretty healthy to me, I personally am disabled and was smoking more and more Q/half a day and it just kills my motivation and my munchie cupboard 🤣
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Shetlad123
Different circumstances! I consume for mental health reasons, and its hard to make people understand that. I appreciate you opening up this discussion.
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Dbo
Me too but again too much and the overthinking kicks and seems to exasperate, my problem is the worse the pain the more I smoke the more I’m in this stoned bubble watching nevtflix all day lol I appreciate everyone contributing there different opinions and personal experiences.
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TWDuke
Hi Dbo

Certainly addictive personalities are a thing, it seems to be down to genetics like many other things.

I can certainly tell that this is the case with alcoholic tendencies often found with multiple members of the same family.

In that respect william.com is sharing a pearl of wisdom here: alcohol is the true evil and does immense damage to individuals and society.

But all this talk of weed being a gateway drug I have found to be an excuse for politicians looking for votes.

I'm saying that because weed being illegal is where the gateway is IMO: if you went to a weed dispensary you might never come into contact with powders, pills etc whereas when you have to buy it illegally from a shady guy down a dark alley that dealer often has his pockets full of other products as he had to branch out in other more lucrative illegal trades to stay in business.

I am well aware of the fact that with modern weed strains having been engineered via horticulture to maximize their potency the potential for mental health side effects and negative impact on youngsters are well documented.

When I started smoking in the mid 80s we could only get landrace from Zaire and other parts of Africa or traditional hashes from Lebanon and Morocco.

The stuff they produce nowadays I often found to be too strong (bouts of paranoia, tachycardia, etc) and not so enjoyable compared to the smooth high and feel good vibe you get from a true landrace.
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