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TeesideFella
Baccy or cig tobacco in joint?
Hi biggas, I want to know what is better in a joint with hash, rolling baccy or cigarette tobacco? Better in terms of flavour, burning well and healthyness
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TheGoodStuff
Neither 🤮 Pure all the way
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Bajoe
Get a bong smoke it pure or if you really want a joint professor herb tobacco replacement burns decent. After about 2 months of no baccy, high is nice and clean lasts longer, no urge to smoke for the want of nicotine and you will probably save money on bud/hash in the long run
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BBDoom
American spirit rolling tobacco (its organic), get in sainsburys tesco ect.
perfect dryness and tastes very nice.
quite expensive tho, 22-23 quid for 30g.
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joedassinmosquito2
Saw an earlier post of yours about American Spirit and got some of the yellow. It's great. Thank you for the reminder - I used to smoke American Spirit cigarettes and completely forgot they do rolling baccy too. Been using inferior tobacco for ages.
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BBDoom
Fantastic, happy trails Joe!😁👊❤️
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TeesideFella
Hand rolling baccy gone up from 22 November by 15 percent
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TeesideFella
American spirit yellow or blue? Which is the lightest
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joedassinmosquito2
I'm smoking the yellow one currently (it's the lighter one of the two) and it's really good. American Spirit all the way, as BBDoom says - in fact, I'd been using Cutters Choice for a while and another earlier post of BBDoom's made me remember about American Spirit and just how good it is (so thanks for that mate!). No chemicals and perfect level of dryness for bud as he said.
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BBDoom
I've only ever found the blue, it's the best, smoked it for years now.
And fuck all the chemicals they inject into the non organic tobacco, they think we're so dumb.
galiano
I would recommend Manitou Green rolling tobacco available from Asda for £18 It’s fully organically grown with no additives and is a smooth smoke You do need a hydro stone to keep it from getting too dry American spirit is good but is not grown organically although has no additives added.
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TeesideFella
I will buy this tobacco, I have sort of giving up tobacco but can not give up joints totally for now, so will get this manitou green
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galiano
Good choice 👍 it’s the only fully organic tobacco sold in uk American spirit and Pueblo are additive free but not organic As far as cigarettes are concerned apart from American spirit and Pueblo they contain many chemicals and additives
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TeesideFella
Went to Asda today for some manitou but they didn't have it, they only had American spirit and pueblo, so I left it and thought I'd try some other shop. my Asda has stopped selling it I think
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galiano
Maybe they’re just out of stock Morrisons stock it as well as tobacconists Smoke King stock it online with 1.99 postage You will need a hydro stone too as the tobacco doesn’t contain preservatives so keeps it from getting to dry Anything else just DM me cheers
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MightyRux
Cigarette tobacco all the way. I've never got on with baccy. It doesn't taste the same, doesn't burn the same, and doesn't roll the same. I've always favoured B&H Gold.
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Incubus420
Oh man , I hate using ciggy tobacco it's all horribly cut up and barky 🙁
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MightyRux
Hence my very specific choice dude, this is with much research. You can pick out the spiky/barky bits, and the weird bits, then you have about 4/5ths of a fag for a 3 skin silver Rizla joint.
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Incubus420
Fair enough, I have had this argument with my friends for like 10 years until they converted to rolling tobaco, but definitely each to their own 👍
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MightyRux
The pressure and the way the tobacco compacts is so different. I've had members of touring reggae bands comment on the quality of my B&H joints, but if they'd given me baccy they'd be lucky to toke through! You can easily redistribute a tighter rolled ciggy joint so there are no choke points. Almost impossible with baccy as it wants to stay in one placed position.
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Incubus420
I know what you mean but I get round it by drying the backy a bit and using the bottom the bag which is all unclumped and doesn't want to join together again, removing those sort of problems that I have had before that ruin a joint and stop it from smoking and then resin builds up and no airflow. But if you follow my method and try it next time, and I only use a tiny bit so it doesn't really have the potential to clump up really. But each to their own if you prefer the dry ciggy backy flavour
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MightyRux
You're asking me to unlearn nearly 30 years of rolling (after using a rolling machine) dude! I'll just carry on horrifying the youth with my 'straights' (and ability to lick and rip it open in one, as it's not hard at all) and using 3 silver Rizlas. I'm not relearning how to roll in the dark by feel and chinks of light again. It took too long to perfect.
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Incubus420
Lol fair enough , up to you, it's very easy to roll with backy infact I find it easier than with ciggy backy as the ciggy backy doesn't want to turn into a worm so it stays really airy in the joint and sometimes part of the point burn faster making it canoe with the ciggy backy burning quicker than the nice weed. But still I've had both joints that can taste nice, it's just personal preference at the end of the day.
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MightyRux
Ah, now we hit the crux! I use fags as they don't form a worm. A worm stage makes it too tight to toke for me. I get to nearly that with the B&H, then leave some space in the end, then roll that between my fingers so it's loose (or, at least, not tonight) before smoking. It's definitely personal preference.
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Incubus420
If you want it to smoke quick and be an easy toker I do think cig backy is better but if you want it to last longer and be smoother then use backy in my opinion.
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MightyRux
I can't imagine how long you'd want it to last as a 3 small silver Rizla joint for me will last a good 20-30 minutes. How would I get things done if I switched and it lasted longer?!
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Jimmy Boco
I can totally see both sides here having used both fag and rolling tobacco for long periods in the past. Definitely pros and cons for both but I find myself siding with Rux. For me rolling tobacco was almost purely an economic choice, if you can afford a B&H or Marlboro gold then I’d suggest that.

But also, we should really be discussing the healthier alternatives (boring, I know - sorry). I use joints as a treat now. I vape in the mighty or bong hash through the week. Helps wi tolerance too I think.
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Incubus420
Just roll it smaller if you want it to last less long lol simplicity at its best
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BigRoo
Have you tried American Spirit (blue)? It's drier than most tobaccos as it doesn't use the same preservatives. Very clean tasting so mostly taste the bud. At least in my opinion.
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FKRJL76
just weed only 💨
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Rozzyexpress
As far as health goes, neither, but amber leaf is my go-to. I don't mix weed with tobacco anymore but I still smoke ciggies and amber leaf just seems to be the most consistent and high quality tobacco out there. It's expensive as hell but if you ask in European shops for the good amber leaf you can normally get it for under 20 smackaroos. For joints cig baccy burns a bit too quick/uneven and makes it taste worse so it's always been a bit of a last resort for me. I'll use different baccy if needbe but a lot of the cheaper baccy in shops either tastes like wood or play doh to me 🤣
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BangBangBoogie
Not smoked cigs in ages as they give me a cough, but i do smoke rollies.

Cutters Choice

Smooth and not dry, makes a joint last ages

I need to get off the tobacco all-together, might try "Professor herb", Vaping gives me a migraine, no matter how much water I drink.
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Wambamthankyoumam1
Bud instead of baccy and then stuff it full of hash.
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Dopey
Rolling baccy, Pueblo Blue is additive free.
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