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How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not par…
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How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
I don't want to give preference to someone the same color as me so why should I prefer someone for being born in the same country as me (or worse they are ordained a citizen by some twat)?
Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.
Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.
Please dont have the idea that all Scots want independence
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.
The whole SNP "independence" thing is a facade.
The SNP want to leave our union and join the EU club because they'll give them more money than Westminster does.
They still want to be financially "dependent", just a more generous sugar daddy.
I'm talking about the SNP, not all Scots :)
The SNP want to leave our union and join the EU club because they'll give them more money than Westminster does.
They still want to be financially "dependent", just a more generous sugar daddy.
I'm talking about the SNP, not all Scots :)
High Raskolnikov. Your post showed as a comment on mine so You're addressing me, then. I have no intention of stating anything about what Scots want. My point is that I consider an English Independence Referendum is incumbent on ourselves to determine our Englishness without the input of the other three nations. Devolution, revolution, phooey! We want ablution. Wash our hands of the lot of you. Do we? Who does? Has anyone got this underway? Sturgeon and Salmond? Something fishy about those two!
Interesting points Vikosh. I feel that England is a pretty tribal place.
Being born and growing up in the North, spending the last 2 decades in the South, and finally relocating back to the North of England, i’d say there are even considerable cultural and economic differences between different areas of this country.
There was a political movement that started a few years ago, that seems to now be on the back burner, for northern independence. While this is a lofty pursuit, and i’m unsure how successful it might be if implemented, I think it suggests that certain areas of our country define themselves not on a national footing but a regional one.
Personally I consider myself English and Irish, rather than British, but more crucially, being Northern trumps ‘Englishness’ for me…. race doesn’t come into it for me. Social class plays a large factor too.
I’d take a working class community in the North populated with English South Asians, Roma, and West African people over a predominantly white, middle class community in rural Hampshire- this is down to personal experience and unscientific, just my preference having lived in both places.
Great topic!
Being born and growing up in the North, spending the last 2 decades in the South, and finally relocating back to the North of England, i’d say there are even considerable cultural and economic differences between different areas of this country.
There was a political movement that started a few years ago, that seems to now be on the back burner, for northern independence. While this is a lofty pursuit, and i’m unsure how successful it might be if implemented, I think it suggests that certain areas of our country define themselves not on a national footing but a regional one.
Personally I consider myself English and Irish, rather than British, but more crucially, being Northern trumps ‘Englishness’ for me…. race doesn’t come into it for me. Social class plays a large factor too.
I’d take a working class community in the North populated with English South Asians, Roma, and West African people over a predominantly white, middle class community in rural Hampshire- this is down to personal experience and unscientific, just my preference having lived in both places.
Great topic!
I wouldn’t blame the English people if they started to see things this way but we are still all better as a union and I think you know this. Sturgeon and Salmond are just typical politicians mate who lying is a big part of the job description. There has been a huge change in Scotland in my lifetime where the working class vote has moved away from labour to the snp. Labour has shot themselves in the foot so many times but also the snp politics has changed. I have been on this earth a long time and the snp have changed so much. Sturgeon is still using her bloody daily briefing up here to try to indoctrinate the nation. I’m going to stop here as I am ranting.
Not English, then. To be born an Englishman is to win first prize in the lottery of life. That life being the infliction of Imperialism on 25% of the world's population. Nothing wrong with that, was there?
Sturgeon's manifesto was just a wish list, impossible to accomplish. I don't want Scotland to leave. We may rib each other on things but I'd like to think we have each others back when things get tough. We live on the same island. Crazy to break up.
I am British not Scottish or Welsh or Irish or English but British.
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.
Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.
She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.
I am British loud and proud !!!
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.
Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.
She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.
I am British loud and proud !!!
I’m British and Scottish mate. Think it is possible to be both. I’m not interested in Independence and believe it will not happen and will be a disaster if it does. In Scotland Salmond courted a certain block vote and got it. That is what has got the snp to where they are. That and shortbread tin thinking. They will soon want to let over 14 s vote. As I said in another post, Scottish Independence is not the endgame for a lot of snp.
I always thought this, we are taught to be separate and see our differences constantly, great way for a small percentage of people to control us with concepts like "nationalism" and this your "land" blah blah.
It was a joke mate but fuck, Vietnam. Is that what you are comparing Scottish Independence to?
Are you talking about Arab supremacists like Hamza Yousaf ? I'm unaware of any other racists in Scotland .
Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.
lol. ok, i'll bite...
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.
a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.
Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.
Yes you could look into the SNPs distant past or alternatively you could look at what the Tories are doing right now as we speak under your very nose.
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!
Not even Ethno nationalism is racist . You can love your own ethnicity more than others without hating them .
Because we can change our nationality as it’s make believe. You cannot change your DNA which is real
Nationalism has more positive range for example promoting culture. Racism is usually associated with negative feelings about other races.
They both seem doomed if you ask me.
They both seem doomed if you ask me.
only in touchy feely places like the uk ... not in most other countrys ... too much self hatred in this country ...
Not synonymous, but it's an interesting point.
In some sense, I think it is an individual and academic choice to be patriotic (even that is turned into a dirty word now), root for your country or be proud of it voxally. It's OK to like your country if you really do. You do live there after all. It's just a country. Other countries are not minorities in their own country as the British are not here.
As you allude to, it is a lottery, not a skill, being British (or Irish for that matter). There is little merit to being "proud" I agree. But it doesn't oppress anyone or anything in itself. It is a way to preserving culture and way of life. You can't pick who you think should be able to do that.
Otherwise, the takeaway is, only the oppressed are allowed to be proud of anything and preserve culture. What kind of world is that?
I do think that no matter what, being proud of your race is pointless, stupid and divisive.
It suggests a nexus between a superiority or exceptionality and racial group.
After all, skin colour is decided only by a few alleles in the genome and indicates very little about one's charachter.
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In some sense, I think it is an individual and academic choice to be patriotic (even that is turned into a dirty word now), root for your country or be proud of it voxally. It's OK to like your country if you really do. You do live there after all. It's just a country. Other countries are not minorities in their own country as the British are not here.
As you allude to, it is a lottery, not a skill, being British (or Irish for that matter). There is little merit to being "proud" I agree. But it doesn't oppress anyone or anything in itself. It is a way to preserving culture and way of life. You can't pick who you think should be able to do that.
Otherwise, the takeaway is, only the oppressed are allowed to be proud of anything and preserve culture. What kind of world is that?
I do think that no matter what, being proud of your race is pointless, stupid and divisive.
It suggests a nexus between a superiority or exceptionality and racial group.
After all, skin colour is decided only by a few alleles in the genome and indicates very little about one's charachter.
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Racism is necessarily exclusionary. But Nationalism isn't.
In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.
In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.
I think it is oxytocin that causes the problems as it creates aggressive in-grouping, be it from the innateness from skin colour or the innateness from where someone was born.
There was a study I linked to but there is more out there about the dark side of oxytocin. There was quite a few articles in the dumber section of media about giving men oxytocin to fix their aggression problems when in fact it might be a major factor in causing them.
There was a study I linked to but there is more out there about the dark side of oxytocin. There was quite a few articles in the dumber section of media about giving men oxytocin to fix their aggression problems when in fact it might be a major factor in causing them.
I'm a nationalist. I want England and all our major cities to be English and not resemble Bangladesh. That makes one a racist nowadays.
If the reason you give for those cities resembling Bangladesh is people of other races, that's kinda the definition of racism. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a closet racist.
The people make the nation. Change the people and the nation changes with it. Very simple concept to understand that is being proved everyday in this country. Natives are being demographically replaced in our homeland, but because we're white native displacement is considered a moral good. Soon British children are going to grow up as hated minorities in their own country. The clock is ticking...
So it's about revenge? Not exactly on to a winner with that argument. 99.99% of Britons had nothing to do with the British Empire. Just say you have an anti-white bloodlust and shut up
no, its just a result of a worldwide empire. i love whites and certianly wont shut up in the face of an ignorant one.
Nonsense answer. It's happening in Ireland as well. They didn't have an Empire and were subjugated by us.
I was just watching this video of Nick Shirley in Ireland . https://youtu.be/WfJggeIw_94?si=53bYT9Vv6eHP90wL
I think Ireland might be in even bigger trouble than Britain. There doesn't seem to be any political representation for them at all.
I think you're right . However , they do community a lot better over there . I reckon they're more likely to fight back sooner . We've already seen it in places like Coolock .
It really is awful what they've done to Ireland .
It really is awful what they've done to Ireland .
I have two lefties in my DMs threatening to post my address and do violence against me because I called out the violence of Islam . These lefties are truly disgusting
The reason certain areas of Britain look like Bangladesh now is because we've let in too many people from other cultures without giving them a chance to assimilate .
I have no hate towards Bangladesh . I'd love to visit some day , but when I go to London , I don't want to be surrounded by Bangladeshis , I want to be surrounded by Londoners and their culture . London is lost now . The culture of London can never recover from the insane amount of immigrants we've allowed to move there . It's very sad for anyone who loves British culture . Of course racists like yourself who hate whites and Brits can't see the problem .
I have no hate towards Bangladesh . I'd love to visit some day , but when I go to London , I don't want to be surrounded by Bangladeshis , I want to be surrounded by Londoners and their culture . London is lost now . The culture of London can never recover from the insane amount of immigrants we've allowed to move there . It's very sad for anyone who loves British culture . Of course racists like yourself who hate whites and Brits can't see the problem .
London never had any 'culture'? Means one thing that was ever cultural about London, that you don't see now.
How can you say such a thing ?
Is London the only city that never had any culture ? What about Tokyo , Rome , or Paris ?
Does culture even exist in your world view ?
London used to be the capital of British culture . The British people are the one thing that made London a cultural hub . Those people are being pushed out at an alarming rate . 40% of London are now foreign born . These people have brought their own culture with them . This is why some parts of London feel more like Bangladesh these days .
Bangladesh is a very apt example as It's a region which has recently had it's own culture eradicated by fundamentalist expansionist Islamists . Bangladesh should be a warning to us about the dangers of uncontrolled immigration .
I don't know about you but I love my people . I don't want to see them replaced by people from the third world . I think that would be extremely racist .
Is London the only city that never had any culture ? What about Tokyo , Rome , or Paris ?
Does culture even exist in your world view ?
London used to be the capital of British culture . The British people are the one thing that made London a cultural hub . Those people are being pushed out at an alarming rate . 40% of London are now foreign born . These people have brought their own culture with them . This is why some parts of London feel more like Bangladesh these days .
Bangladesh is a very apt example as It's a region which has recently had it's own culture eradicated by fundamentalist expansionist Islamists . Bangladesh should be a warning to us about the dangers of uncontrolled immigration .
I don't know about you but I love my people . I don't want to see them replaced by people from the third world . I think that would be extremely racist .
Even through that lengthy rant, at no point did you mention any examples of London culture that no longer survive to this day. Why is that?
If you calm down and read more critically , you will see that I offered the British people themselves as the one cultural asset which no longer survives in London . Now answer my questions .
So you don't know. Just say that. British people are not a CULTURAL TRADITION. That and, they are still in London. Your issue is just plain racism, you don't like seeing people that aren't white in your country. Here's a few examples of culture that still exist in London. Pie and Mash, Cockney slang, Shakespeares globe, the museums, the cathedrals, the monarchy. I'd go on, but what's the point. You're a loser Pete. I'm a proud Scottish Nationalist, and we Love our culture, we also love new cultures and people's that have settled in Scotland and consider it home. You know why? Because we aren't like you. We're accepting. We want the best for Scotland, not for Whites, because fuck that stupid bigotry racist shite. You can be Brown, Black, Green or Blue, we don't care, as long as you love Scotland too, and contribute to the nation. Whether that be through paying taxes, or education. People make Scotland. Not just white people. Guess what? The only country that tried to destroy our cultural traditions is now our friends. Well, some of you.
You get racists in every country, the UK is no exception, but the way you talk is frankly disgusting.
You get racists in every country, the UK is no exception, but the way you talk is frankly disgusting.
What a nasty and unfounded rant . You know we can disagree and still be friendly .
My best and oldest friend is half Ghanaian . I love all ethnicities but I have a duty to protect my own .
I don't want to see any ethnicity replaced in their own lands , but I have a special obligation to the replacement happening here .
The British people are the ones who carry the British tradition . The people who replace us will not carry on the culture in our place .
Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London ? The shocking speed of the replacement means there is no hope for new comers to assimilate .
You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in .
Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born ? These people bring their own cultures . At that concentration , they couldn't assimilate even if they wanted to .
How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture ?
My best and oldest friend is half Ghanaian . I love all ethnicities but I have a duty to protect my own .
I don't want to see any ethnicity replaced in their own lands , but I have a special obligation to the replacement happening here .
The British people are the ones who carry the British tradition . The people who replace us will not carry on the culture in our place .
Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London ? The shocking speed of the replacement means there is no hope for new comers to assimilate .
You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in .
Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born ? These people bring their own cultures . At that concentration , they couldn't assimilate even if they wanted to .
How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture ?
So you're best and oldest friend is not your own, because he's Ghanaian? What an absurd view.
"Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London?" why, are all those non whites going to commit genocide and Take Urr Cuntray?
"You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in" our cultural heritage has never been stronger, not since you lot tried to destroy our culture by banning our language, banning our kilts, removing us from the highlands, but, we forgave you sad little people.
"Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born?" I don't understand where the problem is here?
"How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture?" Considering that the Japanese are very western leaning, they still have a fantastic historical heritage and legacy, that will never go away. Just like how Londons heritage is very much alive to this day.
Again, you're just a racist Pete.
"Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London?" why, are all those non whites going to commit genocide and Take Urr Cuntray?
"You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in" our cultural heritage has never been stronger, not since you lot tried to destroy our culture by banning our language, banning our kilts, removing us from the highlands, but, we forgave you sad little people.
"Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born?" I don't understand where the problem is here?
"How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture?" Considering that the Japanese are very western leaning, they still have a fantastic historical heritage and legacy, that will never go away. Just like how Londons heritage is very much alive to this day.
Again, you're just a racist Pete.
I never said my Ghanaian friend wasn't my own . Why are you misrepresenting me ?
He is a very British black man . He also understands this problem . Would you call him a racist for holding the same views as me or does he get a free pass for being black ?
If you replace all the British people with foreigners then obviously the culture will be lost . It hasn't taken a genocide to replace 40% , but violence is certainly not off the table for incoming cultures . Look at what the Muslims recently did to the Hindus in Bangladesh for example .
If the Japanese are replaced by Brits , they will obviously lose their strong culture . This goes without saying .
You're being unreasonable and actually absurd in your denial . It's basic maths . I think I'll leave it there . Please stop calling me a racist without a shred of evidence for it .
He is a very British black man . He also understands this problem . Would you call him a racist for holding the same views as me or does he get a free pass for being black ?
If you replace all the British people with foreigners then obviously the culture will be lost . It hasn't taken a genocide to replace 40% , but violence is certainly not off the table for incoming cultures . Look at what the Muslims recently did to the Hindus in Bangladesh for example .
If the Japanese are replaced by Brits , they will obviously lose their strong culture . This goes without saying .
You're being unreasonable and actually absurd in your denial . It's basic maths . I think I'll leave it there . Please stop calling me a racist without a shred of evidence for it .
British people are ''culture'' because culture is simply the expression of your national character and personality. You live and breathe culture simply by being who you are. Only small numbers of foreigners can be integrated into that. You change the people and the culture changes with it
lmao
Both people in this conversation should yeet themselves of the nearest cliff.
Your IQ is less than the number of toes you have.
Both people in this conversation should yeet themselves of the nearest cliff.
Your IQ is less than the number of toes you have.
Threats and insults are all you have .
Get an actual argument before you talk about other's IQ .
I scored 133 on the Stanford Binet myself . That puts me in the 98th percentile . How about you ?
Get an actual argument before you talk about other's IQ .
I scored 133 on the Stanford Binet myself . That puts me in the 98th percentile . How about you ?
If it's the colour of people's skin you're referring to, and you're suggesting you have to be white to be regarded as english, then yes, you are. Not just nowadays, always.
So you deny the English of their genetic heritage ? For you to understand how racist that it , I want you to apply your reasoning to any other ethnicity ?
Are the Japanese , Chinese , and Africans racist for holding these ethno nationalist views or does it only apply to white people ? If you're only applying this standard to white people then you are the racist .
Of course it's possible to be civically British and ethnically foreign , but like any foreigner who moves to another country , we should respect the people we are trying to join . That includes the ethnicity and the culture of the natives . There's nothing racist about respecting the countries that take us in .
Are the Japanese , Chinese , and Africans racist for holding these ethno nationalist views or does it only apply to white people ? If you're only applying this standard to white people then you are the racist .
Of course it's possible to be civically British and ethnically foreign , but like any foreigner who moves to another country , we should respect the people we are trying to join . That includes the ethnicity and the culture of the natives . There's nothing racist about respecting the countries that take us in .
English genetic heritage? Which one? The ones that originate from Germania? The Vikings? The Norman's? Your genetic heritage has more influence from other nationalities, not just the Angles. Who were German.
As is true for every single ethnicity on Earth . Yes , we are a mix , just like everyone else , but I don't think you're denying the existence of ethnicity , are you ?
Race is extremely important to the ethnicity of the Japanese , Chinese , Africans , etc .
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?
I had to repeat myself because you didn't address this point the first time I made it . Instead you chose to argue about semantics . I don't think you have an actual argument
You can't engage me on this argument because it would expose your double standard and prove that you are the racist one here .
That's why all you can do is dodge and insult .
That's why all you can do is dodge and insult .
I'm racist because I have no issue with immigration and multiple cultures? That's new. I'm very happy to welcome people who want to make a life here, that want to work and contribute, I couldn't give a flying fuck what nationality someone is, or what skin colour they are, as long as they aren't like you Petey boyyo. You really should reread this entire conversation.
You're a racist because you deny the British of their culture and genetics . Unless you hold this view consistently for all people , Africans , Asians , etc , then you are being racist .
Genetics, really? So you must be white too be British? Nobody is destroying British culture you fuckwit Pete. You couldn't even give an example of British culture that no longer exists.
Still no argument . I really don't think you have one . It's all baseless insults with you lot .
My argument has already been covered. Nobody is taking away Londons culture. You're a fool for thinking it.
Different argument . We had to give up on that one because you were denying the obvious . 40% and growing fast is obviously going to impact the culture. I will argue no more with you about that .
Let me copy and paste the question you are dodging :
Race is extremely important to the ethnicity of the Japanese , Chinese , Africans , etc .
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?
Please try to keep track .
Let me copy and paste the question you are dodging :
Race is extremely important to the ethnicity of the Japanese , Chinese , Africans , etc .
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?
Please try to keep track .
Ethno nationalism is only the norm in your world pal, not in the world of the less ignorant.
Ethno nationalism is the norm in China , Japan , and most African countries .
This is an objectively true fact . Do you think they're racist too ?
This is an objectively true fact . Do you think they're racist too ?
english is a race mate just like indian im english if i move to india im not an indian ? same thing should apply in the uk
India did it's own conquering and assimilating . Every country has . The UK was just the best at it . The people who are still practicing this expansionism are the fundamentalist Islamists . Islamists are the only genuine far right threat yet they're championed by you lefties because they happen to be foreign . If you want to fight racism , you should oppose Islamist expansionists . You can ask your Indian friends all about this . They know all too well the dangers of fundamentalist Islam . I think you'll find they prefer the British to the Islamists these days .
No , it was wrong . But there's a big difference . Christian expansionists went against the teachings of Jesus . Islamic expansionists are doing exactly what Muhammad did .
I have many non white and Muslim friends who I love dearly . I think you've got the wrong idea here . Who told you I was racist ?
I have many non white and Muslim friends who I love dearly . I think you've got the wrong idea here . Who told you I was racist ?
Since when were the Crusades against the teachings of Jesus? Your rants show your true colours Pete. Nobody admits they're racist, I'm telling you, you are.
I don't consider the Crusades to be expansionism . That's a poor example .
Actually , racists do admit they're racist . That's just hateful woke rhetoric so you don't have to engage . You label and other your political opponents because you don't have an argument . It's bigoted and hateful . I assure you , you are far more racist than I am .
Actually , racists do admit they're racist . That's just hateful woke rhetoric so you don't have to engage . You label and other your political opponents because you don't have an argument . It's bigoted and hateful . I assure you , you are far more racist than I am .
You'd be surprised . My view is on the rise in the West . Just look at the US . I was an ignorant lefty like yourself until about August of last year when the riots started and I spent time doing some independent research on the topics raised .
I change my mind based on facts and logic .
I change my mind based on facts and logic .
Yep, it's like Nazi Germany all over again. They were Nationalists too you know. If you changed your mind based on facts and logic, I'd expect you did your research through Musk and GB News.
I also don't subscribe to this whole lefty/righty pish. People that use the term Woke are just a walking talking embarrassment to themselves and others.
I also don't subscribe to this whole lefty/righty pish. People that use the term Woke are just a walking talking embarrassment to themselves and others.
There seem to be a prevailing perspective of an individualistic view on what racism is, i.e. the hatred or superiority of another race, nation, or ethnicity, however this view is overly simplistic as racism is structural and systemic and is only dependent on the individual when their actions are supported by the larger system.
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.
https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.
https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html
That's the woke idea of racism . It's not useful for anything but justifying woke racism .
Racism is a universal principle . Once you start adding caveats it becomes a self defeating philosophy . Racism under the new woke definition is itself racist .
Racism is a universal principle . Once you start adding caveats it becomes a self defeating philosophy . Racism under the new woke definition is itself racist .
As soon as you use the word "woke"
your entire comment gets disregarded as clearly you are just another wanker who calls everything they don't like woke.
your entire comment gets disregarded as clearly you are just another wanker who calls everything they don't like woke.
They're called 'Woke ' ironically because they're actually asleep . It's the name we've given to all the violent bigots on the left who haven't done any research into the causes they champion .
You'll often hear them mindlessly chanting the opposite of truth . Free speech is undemocratic . Israel are committing genocide rather than defending against one , Women can be men , Jews are Nazis , UK patriots are Nazis . Everyones a Nazi apart from the actual Nazis in Ukraine or the Islamo Nazis who have the same genocidal goals . It goes on and on .
'Woke ' is the name given to the lefty movement that is so ignorant and twisted that it's almost satanic .
These people are useful idiots for the Globalists . They can never defend their stance , so they always refuse to debate and often turn violent when challenged .
You'll often hear them mindlessly chanting the opposite of truth . Free speech is undemocratic . Israel are committing genocide rather than defending against one , Women can be men , Jews are Nazis , UK patriots are Nazis . Everyones a Nazi apart from the actual Nazis in Ukraine or the Islamo Nazis who have the same genocidal goals . It goes on and on .
'Woke ' is the name given to the lefty movement that is so ignorant and twisted that it's almost satanic .
These people are useful idiots for the Globalists . They can never defend their stance , so they always refuse to debate and often turn violent when challenged .
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The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
The 1st thing Goebels did was put a device in everyone's home.
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The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
The author looks at ordinary people's lives as Hitler shocked the country into submission as he fought the "lügenpresse" - lying media.
Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.
It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but there is no left what we have are a bunch of globalists run by the rich (WEF) pretending to be left(the right aint much better) while sending lots of our tax payers cash and weapons to a bunch of nazi`s who took over Ukraine in a coup financed by the US who by the way also funded the 3rd Reich and only joined the fight in Europe when it looked like their little puppet the mad Austrian was going to get his butt kicked and Germany occupied by the Red Army.
Their plan is sinister it is to send all you youngsters to die in battle so they dont end up with a pension crisis after stealing all the pension monies.
Yes the 3rd great human cull has already started.
Their plan is sinister it is to send all you youngsters to die in battle so they dont end up with a pension crisis after stealing all the pension monies.
Yes the 3rd great human cull has already started.
the nature of misinformation is to use real facts and riff bullshit forward. that's sad in this case because there are some valid points that can be drawn from the cupla truths you have here.
What far right parties are you talking about ?
Judging by that picture , you've bought the Globalist lie that anyone who opposes the WEF is far right .
Far right usually means racist . I don't know of any racist parties that are on the rise in Europe . The right that is rising in Europe is generally speaking conservative of the liberal culture we've established over the last few decades . The new right believes in womens rights , gay rights , etc . You seem to be stuck in the past . The left are fighting phantoms and calling anyone who disagrees with them Nazis because they've run out of actual racists to fight .
It's actually very offensive to the people who did suffer under the Nazis .
Judging by that picture , you've bought the Globalist lie that anyone who opposes the WEF is far right .
Far right usually means racist . I don't know of any racist parties that are on the rise in Europe . The right that is rising in Europe is generally speaking conservative of the liberal culture we've established over the last few decades . The new right believes in womens rights , gay rights , etc . You seem to be stuck in the past . The left are fighting phantoms and calling anyone who disagrees with them Nazis because they've run out of actual racists to fight .
It's actually very offensive to the people who did suffer under the Nazis .
Sadly we going to be finding out very soon that the majority of Americans want a semi-Fascist state the same with the uk population too
You better be talking about the authoritarian left but I fear you are not .
The right are all about freedom .
The right are all about freedom .
ring really reminds me of the gestapo, they rolled almost exclusively through ordinary informants. people with fucked up biases are having their day.
why do they keep designing things to look like hal? doesnt anyone remember how the movie ends?
Why the dystopian views are always referred to Nazism and not to Communism? They are basically the same shit, and Communism looks much more dangerous to me, because it "succeeded" for many more years, in many more countries, and for some reason has that glamorous look to so many idiots...
Germany became increasingly polarized with people espousing Marxism on one side and Law and Order on the other. This is exactly how it feels in America now.
AND JUST LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING APOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF "COMMUNISM". AT LEAST IT WAS ACTUALLY FUCKING COMMUNISM BACK THEN AND NOT JUST WHATEVER IS NOT ON THE RIGHT
In times of economic and political strife extremists always rise, whether left or right wing...it doesn't matter, they are reactionary's. For example the liberal left intend destruction of things about history that upset them much in the same way Nazi's in Germany burned books. People need to learn from History and rarely do, the same mistakes are repeated and things somehow trundle on. 'Good times bring weak people', 'Weak people bring bad times', 'Bad times bring strong people' & 'Strong people bring good times'. The great circle of human history.
I thought it was the republicans (ie the right) in America banning certain aspects of history they don’t like.
Who are the liberal left?
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I’m not trying to start an argument I’m trying to understand
Who are the liberal left?
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I’m not trying to start an argument I’m trying to understand
lol it's different in different countries. A conservative in the US is different from a conservative in the UK.
As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.
Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.
As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.
Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.
Thanks for the response mate.
I still don’t get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues aren’t history they glorify the subjects for posterity.
Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?
I still don’t get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues aren’t history they glorify the subjects for posterity.
Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?
Well the statues are an example. They are subjects for posterity but they also memorialise history and certain points in history. As such they connect themselves to that history.
I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.
I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.
Also CRT?
I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.
I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.
Also CRT?
Thanks for the response mate.
I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally don’t put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.
CRT
Critical Race Theory
I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally don’t put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.
CRT
Critical Race Theory
Yeah np, I don't mind a bit of debate.
Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.
There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.
I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.
But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.
This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".
So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD
Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.
There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.
I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.
But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.
This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".
So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD
Thanks man I do appreciate your time and input.
It’s good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear
I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police
Have I got that right?
It’s good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear
I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police
Have I got that right?
You sound very naïve & to support CRT is crazy, hope you don't spout the sort of nonsense politics we see above IRL.
I don’t know how supporting a data driven legal critical evaluation by experts as naive maybe I’m missing something in your post as it doesn’t really make sense and yes i do discuss this topic and others with real people
Watching the Plot Against America on Sky and it’s easy to see how Facism takes hold. Not dissimilar to Trump’s America.
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All dogs are fascists....
ya reckon?
All dogs are fascists....
Well I've never seen a police cat! Lol
Anyone else brought up reading the Freak Bros comics?
Anyone else brought up reading the Freak Bros comics?
Love dogs too really...just not the police ones!
They won't mind anyway...too busy biting chunks out of protesters n sniffing out stashes lol
They won't mind anyway...too busy biting chunks out of protesters n sniffing out stashes lol
I guess you never heart about kitler.
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When It’s Too Late To Stop Fascism
Check your spelling it's I before E, except after making no sense whatsoever.
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When It’s Too Late To Stop Fascism
Before his suicide Austrian writer Stefan Zweig reflected on Hitler's rise. The New Yorker's George Prochnik compares it to the current US situation.
If fascism does come, it will ride in on the wings of "anti-fascist" socialist, who use racism, bigotry, and violence as thier vehicle.
The best way to stop it is to simply check out. There are more alternatives to corporate partipation than ever before.
Hopefully the US Judiciary will clip the wings of the Trump Circus! The media is losing patience with that crew as well.
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Is anyone else having trouble with android?
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Is anyone else having trouble with android?
I get dumb sizing on several pages using a galaxy edge 5
Using a pixel 3xl with chrome browser and everything seems fine to me. Although it can take a while to load pages at certain times.
I agree with the incredibly slow loading times. I've noticed it's typically on vendors pages who have alot of threads / topics to load. If you go to a newer vendor, or someone with not many threads / comments, it seems to load fine ( in my experience ).
I wonder if there's a way LB can limit the amount of threads that have to load when you first view a vendors page? And maybe add a "see more" option at the bottom to look further if you wish. But loading EVERYTHING they have ever posted seems to be the main cause of the slow loading times for me (I'm using a new android device so it's unlikely a hardware issue)
I wonder if there's a way LB can limit the amount of threads that have to load when you first view a vendors page? And maybe add a "see more" option at the bottom to look further if you wish. But loading EVERYTHING they have ever posted seems to be the main cause of the slow loading times for me (I'm using a new android device so it's unlikely a hardware issue)
Mines acting up at the moment things are really slow, Im getting restricted pages and can't send a message without it crashing on me
Everytime I go to send a message to drugs Inc. My page freezes and crashes. I was wondering if it was a known problem
Yeah I've noticed a big slowdown the past week or so. Some pages and topics won't even open and just crash the site if I try. Hard to engage with the community at the moment because of it.
i have a problem on text input for example this post, when the text box opens the way the page then zooms is a freak show, and the auto correction does not work maybe its the way its defined in the code. i'd be happy to contribute to the bounty if anyone fixes this.
This happens to me with text input but only when leaving reviews. I'm able to write this post just fine on chrome for android but I have to write reviews in my notes app and copy paste them.
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UK biggaz How You Buying Your Bitcoin?
lots of atms have limited identity retrieval
UK biggaz How You Buying Your Bitcoin?
I'm looking for a new provider as Coinbase bothers me on a few levels.
Bit panda as well you can use normal bank or credit cards if u want less traceability but need photo id
Yes, Coinmama is good, once verified, it's very easy to buy Bitcoin etc for a newbie!,
Usually complete after 20 mins via CC payment. I didn't realise it was so simple..
Usually complete after 20 mins via CC payment. I didn't realise it was so simple..
BittyLicious, pretty much instant transactions and ID verification was only a few hours, site looks shady as but I've had no problems using my bank account to buy my coin there. Not sure how much more their fees are as I haven't used any other method to buy coin. Bitpanda kept refusing my ID and didn't try coinbase as I've heard they keep suspending people's accounts.
What bothers you about Coinbase if you don't mind me asking buddy? I only ask as I just started using them, lower fees than BTC.com who I currently use?
bitquick.co was good for my 1st transaction because i didnt have my ID handy and they do up to $400 without it. fast but dear.
I spend the entire week trying to set up exchanges and wallets. I initially registered with coinbase because most say they are reliable and easy to use. Coinbase somehow did not work for me. Coinmama refused my verification (no idea why). After several attempts with others I finally managed to get it all to work with Binance to buy the BTC and an Exodus wallet. I just placed my first order here so I assume that combination works ok. Phew
Agree with the guys below... BitPanda is very good. You can also try BittyLicious, the rates are a bit higher but pretty instant. SpectroCoin is another OK site.
I would have to say Bitpanda, especially for anyone new to buying Bitcoin. Check out a review here: https://littlebiggy.org/link/ZuuQR4
and a bonus 10 dollars bills for new users
and a bonus 10 dollars bills for new users
I'm sticking with Coinbase for now. That "Earn rewards" feature at the top netted me a free bag of weed, so not complaining yet, even if Coinbase does have a couple of slightly annoying quirks.
Bittylicious to Wirex wallet.
Used to use just Wirex and it was so easy but then they decided not the play ball with anything associated with Lloyds Bank.
Used to use just Wirex and it was so easy but then they decided not the play ball with anything associated with Lloyds Bank.
Ive come to really like Jaxx, took a few uses to get used to,
but it works well
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but it works well
GF
I am a bit hassled by Coinbase, although purchasing is easy. I use a separate wallet for my LB purchases... Never can be too careful ;)
Download the etoro app you need photo id then just buy bitcoin as a trading stock with the amount you have put on there with your debit card or linked to your paypal then it allows you to move the bitcoin to a etoro wallet and from the wallet you can send it where you want, simple as that.
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Bud`n'Beer
Buying weed in Thailand
aroy!
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Bud`n'Beer
Buying weed in Thailand
I've been in Thailand past few weeks, and the bitch of all bitches i couldn't get any weed from my usual place. Went to an island called koh samet , was hesitant to ask as other islands are abit dodgy and the weed is shit! Anyways I found the best smoke I've had here to date!! Best bar I've been in too, you can sit back relax and blaze away with the barman at the bar or alone watching the waves, I was shocked no advice about putting it in your pants watch your eyes ect.. that place is the most relaxed I've seen its literally like being in the Netherlands but 10x better!! They've got something good going on with the piggies, ,
blazing away at 2pm in the afternoon on the front of the beach, with lots of tourists old people and kids walking past is very unique in Thailand... Weed is a deep dark green from the sun, has the classic Thai smell and hashy sort of taste, strength is 8/10 it's the most strong Thai weed I've had, .. the bar is safe and they want customers it's called 'gecko bar' so if you're planning a holiday head to koh samet , besides decent weed it's got beautiful beaches and right now Chinese free! No food and bits of rubbish floating around the Ocean!
blazing away at 2pm in the afternoon on the front of the beach, with lots of tourists old people and kids walking past is very unique in Thailand... Weed is a deep dark green from the sun, has the classic Thai smell and hashy sort of taste, strength is 8/10 it's the most strong Thai weed I've had, .. the bar is safe and they want customers it's called 'gecko bar' so if you're planning a holiday head to koh samet , besides decent weed it's got beautiful beaches and right now Chinese free! No food and bits of rubbish floating around the Ocean!
You're a lot braver than i am mate! Keep a few thousand baht handy incase the local copper smells something suspicious!
Have a great holiday. Cheers. BB
Have a great holiday. Cheers. BB
Exactly mate I'll be honest I do get abit para , some places they stop you for piss test if they suspect, but you hit the nail on the head , having cash on you is way out of nearly everything in Thailand. Nice one bulldog ;)
Price is abit more than in Bangkok, around BKK you can get a kilo for under 300 pound, those little bricks are about a q and cost 1000 BAHT about 25 quid , this is the price due to the army being in control and not as many tourist,. I'm sure if busy they will sell for 800 BAHT , its high price for Thailand but at the end of the day you are paying for the protection of the bar aswel
Bangkok is abit harder to score weed safely, crystal meth is more rampant in loads of clubs and bars, Khaosan Road for weed, if you get caught in Bangkok you will need to pay top dollar better to hide it in pants if you score take no chances. Only smoke small joints on the balcony of your hotel , its best to make a friend if your there long term, and blaze in your condo. No matter where you are in Thailand reggae bars are 90% safe to ask ,The islands are the place ,more care needed in Phuket or around Pattaya but in general apart from them 2 you ain't gonna see no police, as opposed to Bangkok where it's full of mean looking bastards itching to nick you
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pk2
What if we did a Secret Santa on LB?
Yes but fresh ones come in every day
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pk2
What if we did a Secret Santa on LB?
I guess there's some complications but isn't overcoming that shit what we are all about here?
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{cannabis}
UK Legalisation
AMen bigga fuck dem we don't need their permission, and if this shit here reminds me things can work more civil without them then thats a bonus.
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{cannabis}
UK Legalisation
What's everyone's opinion on the legalization of cannabis in the UK..
We've seen major states in the US over the past few years and just across the shore in Ireland that's legalised for medicinal and some recreational..
My question is.. when will it happen here in the UK? What's everyone's opinion..
We've seen major states in the US over the past few years and just across the shore in Ireland that's legalised for medicinal and some recreational..
My question is.. when will it happen here in the UK? What's everyone's opinion..
Legalisation eh? No thanks! Not for me anyway. To be fair I’m about a thousand years old so I’ve a different perspective to the majority, maybe.
When I look back over the last few decades of living this obsession, most of the fun was related to the chase.
Doing your runnings and taking little risks is a great way to release an adrenaline spike. That’s a substance we all crave like no other!
I like being a bit edgy(whilst doing no real harm). I downright love breaking an unfair and unjust law!
I like it that all the wankers disapprove of me! If they legalise it, said wankers will start doing it. They’ll still hate me and I them, only difference is I’ll have lost the smug satisfaction of knowing what they’re missing and enjoying my individuality.
My closest friendships have been made and proven in our collective efforts to maintain a supply of something nice. Like bands of brothers. Celebrating success together, sharing the fun and occasional disasters.
No fun in walking over the shops is there? What about work and driving? I mean you’ve got to watch what you do on social media, how do you think you’re boss etc will react to open drug use?
It’ll still be drugs remember. Naagh, keep it on the low I say. I hope they never legalise it.
It ain’t gonna be nearly as much fun. It isn’t going to be any cheaper. Quality will still be hit and miss. The government will have a field day. But most of all as previously stated all the wankers will start doing it.
Medical? Yes. Small medical grows? Yes. Full on recreational legalisation? Not for me thanks!
When I look back over the last few decades of living this obsession, most of the fun was related to the chase.
Doing your runnings and taking little risks is a great way to release an adrenaline spike. That’s a substance we all crave like no other!
I like being a bit edgy(whilst doing no real harm). I downright love breaking an unfair and unjust law!
I like it that all the wankers disapprove of me! If they legalise it, said wankers will start doing it. They’ll still hate me and I them, only difference is I’ll have lost the smug satisfaction of knowing what they’re missing and enjoying my individuality.
My closest friendships have been made and proven in our collective efforts to maintain a supply of something nice. Like bands of brothers. Celebrating success together, sharing the fun and occasional disasters.
No fun in walking over the shops is there? What about work and driving? I mean you’ve got to watch what you do on social media, how do you think you’re boss etc will react to open drug use?
It’ll still be drugs remember. Naagh, keep it on the low I say. I hope they never legalise it.
It ain’t gonna be nearly as much fun. It isn’t going to be any cheaper. Quality will still be hit and miss. The government will have a field day. But most of all as previously stated all the wankers will start doing it.
Medical? Yes. Small medical grows? Yes. Full on recreational legalisation? Not for me thanks!
AMen bigga fuck dem we don't need their permission, and if this shit here reminds me things can work more civil without them then thats a bonus.
Dead on mate, its a lose-lose I’m convinced. A lot of people will get very rich(not us obviously). Cynical business making all the decisions regarding the thing we all love and have nurtured together as a community. I’m open to a single good reason for it, I haven’t heard anything compelling yet.
I think personally it’s a case of people being careful what they wish for. In case we get it.
Government and legislators won’t understand the minutiae and we’ll end up choosing between red, blue or silver top! They’ll want to regulate and standardise and make everything”safe” for the idiots. They’ll all start sueing each other over who invented white widow or whatever.
Run away as fast as we can. This time we need to hide more carefully as well. We’re doing ok without them people.
Peace
I think personally it’s a case of people being careful what they wish for. In case we get it.
Government and legislators won’t understand the minutiae and we’ll end up choosing between red, blue or silver top! They’ll want to regulate and standardise and make everything”safe” for the idiots. They’ll all start sueing each other over who invented white widow or whatever.
Run away as fast as we can. This time we need to hide more carefully as well. We’re doing ok without them people.
Peace
Good reasons for legalisation/regulation:
1. Easy access for disabled/medical patients.
2. Ban the use of contaminants/unsafe fertilizers. Over the years we've seen foliar feeds that contain latex polymers. Liquid sugar/finely ground glass/cornflour/spice and similar chemicals sprayed onto plants. Not to mention hash made of henna/hay/oil/any old shit and the recent problems with carts.
3. Less paranoia.
4. Tax revenue that can be directed into public services.
5. Boost to economy, boost to tourism.
6. An end to kids getting a criminal record for something that shouldn't be a crime.
7. Gradual removal of social stigma.
8. Walking over the shop may not be fun, but it's very convenient.
9. A chance for cottage industries to start competing and growing in a legal marketplace.
10. A raising of standards - I'm told Californian mid-shelf is better than UK top shelf.
11. A much needed counter-balance to the (frankly depraved and embarrassing) UK binge drinking culture, hopefully leading to a more relaxed, European style cafe culture.
12. A more social cannabis scene. With coffeeshops and dispensaries people will have a reason to go out and mix more. An end to the stereotype of the isolated stoner.
I know most of us here are okay now. But what about the youngsters getting sold rubbish? The elderly and disabled going without medicine?
All this balanced against the chance to feel like a rebel and a load of running around. With respect, I'd take legalisation and regulation any day.
1. Easy access for disabled/medical patients.
2. Ban the use of contaminants/unsafe fertilizers. Over the years we've seen foliar feeds that contain latex polymers. Liquid sugar/finely ground glass/cornflour/spice and similar chemicals sprayed onto plants. Not to mention hash made of henna/hay/oil/any old shit and the recent problems with carts.
3. Less paranoia.
4. Tax revenue that can be directed into public services.
5. Boost to economy, boost to tourism.
6. An end to kids getting a criminal record for something that shouldn't be a crime.
7. Gradual removal of social stigma.
8. Walking over the shop may not be fun, but it's very convenient.
9. A chance for cottage industries to start competing and growing in a legal marketplace.
10. A raising of standards - I'm told Californian mid-shelf is better than UK top shelf.
11. A much needed counter-balance to the (frankly depraved and embarrassing) UK binge drinking culture, hopefully leading to a more relaxed, European style cafe culture.
12. A more social cannabis scene. With coffeeshops and dispensaries people will have a reason to go out and mix more. An end to the stereotype of the isolated stoner.
I know most of us here are okay now. But what about the youngsters getting sold rubbish? The elderly and disabled going without medicine?
All this balanced against the chance to feel like a rebel and a load of running around. With respect, I'd take legalisation and regulation any day.
The uk drugs minster needs replaced for a start, she wont discuss the topic of legalisation even though her husbands involved in cultivation of medical in the uk. Its absurd. I think we're a good few years away yet.
Trouble is that all the old fogeys in the house of lords are still all "reefer madness" about it. Until they change their minds or die off and get replaced by younger lords, it'll never happen. I believe medical thc will eventually become a viable medicine. But it will be administered as some kind of extract probably taken as a pill or liquid instead of a good old fashioned spliff.
I don't know...if public opinion shifts to the extent a majority of MPs got on board I doubt the Lords would stand in the way.
Now Canada and a large portion of the US has legalised, and much more is becoming known about the plant and its relative safety & even benefits, I would think it's just a matter of time before some form of legalisation comes to Europe, and the UK. If we had the rates of use of US & Canada maybe it'd be happening already but there's less users and a more conservative view overall about it I'd say, so it'll take longer but it will happen
Now Canada and a large portion of the US has legalised, and much more is becoming known about the plant and its relative safety & even benefits, I would think it's just a matter of time before some form of legalisation comes to Europe, and the UK. If we had the rates of use of US & Canada maybe it'd be happening already but there's less users and a more conservative view overall about it I'd say, so it'll take longer but it will happen
I do hope so. And yeah you're probably right. When enough people stand up and say it needs doing, and mps get behind it. They won't have a choice. But yeah it'll probably take a long time. In the meantime I'll continue to tend to my crops on the quiet. Waiting patiently for the day I can come out of the shadows.
To be honest imo we only need decriminalization. That's what has happened in Barcelona. There is a UN law that states you are allowed member only, non profit clubs once that happens.
All above board tax and wage paying businesses.
Notice someone say May us dead against drugs, I don't think thatthat's true as her husband Philip has a great business selling it to the NHS. Only reason I can think is because they want control over it is either for personal profit or they don't think us Plebs can be trusted to run sensible above board businesses.
All above board tax and wage paying businesses.
Notice someone say May us dead against drugs, I don't think thatthat's true as her husband Philip has a great business selling it to the NHS. Only reason I can think is because they want control over it is either for personal profit or they don't think us Plebs can be trusted to run sensible above board businesses.
our day will come as they are losing the argument that it is a dangerous drug... legalise it and I shall advertise it... remember living in mallorca in the eighties where you could sit down in any cafe/bar and as long as you didn't have more than 25 grams, you could place it openly on your table and smoke the day away... you would often see the local poilce in full uniform lighting up a fat one...
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Mikeoxlong
After tangerine dream? Or if anyone's tried it, be good to know how dank it is??
Is it a hybrid that yer after?
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raceyT - jews discussion
How do you feel about it's use as an adjective?
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The language is pitted against Jews the grammar doesn't really matter. Put Jew, Immigrant, Mexican, African, Turk, Arab, Chinese, in front of most English words and it's fucked. The list goes on
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