They are chucked on the floor all over the gaff!

I’m no just stop oil kinda Apex, but these seem bad to be left around.

Vapes can be great for people coming off serious nico addictions, but then I always steer people to a big battery, tank and juice combo as much cheaper in long run

Ciggies are not banned and the waste is also toxic to the environment.

If they do make a change it will be to distract from the real issues that are not being addressed

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I would say it’s probably a good thing that teens won’t be getting as easily addicted to nicotine, however I do think adults should still be able to choose to put whatever they want in their body even if it’s not good for them, it’s a tricky one

Bullshit as usual. Overreach of a nanny state which is increasingly where we are heading. And people are asking for it as you can see because they have been conditioned to think that banning things is always the answer. Why not just force bland packaging as they did with tobacco?

Disposable vapes aren't a necessity. As apex points out you can get a box mod or rechargeable and fill the tank yourself. In London I see just as many school kids with disposable vapes as adults so there is a valid point there. Also the materials it's made from are indeed not very kind to the environment. I can't think of a single reason someone would need a disposable vape over a reusable one and it really is a mark of our throw away society and complete disregard for resources and recycling. I'm not an activist or anything but we all need to do our bit.

The environment and waste thing isn't really a very good argument for banning it if it's not even the reason they are giving.
I don't really recall proclaiming it was a necessity. But regardless, what logic makes it OK to ban something because it isn't a necessity? Ideology. That's exactly what.
What I was pointing out and asking is why is the answer to ban everything rather than encourage more responsible use or regulate the manufacturers to have standards for the waste and goddam it stop shops from selling them to kids.
They always use playing on people's general care for their children like this and it's getting nauseating that people continually fall into the trap.
Why should the convenience aspect be ruined for people who want to pay extra for that?
I spend 10 minutes doing my plastic and metal recycling once a week. Is that for nothing or are there things made of plastic and metal that can be recycled?
Getting to a place where the government is banning things rather than attempting to make the market behave more responsibly, we are ripe for some tyranny. Seriously.
Those of you sleepwalking through these times are pushing the rest of us that want our freedoms left alone off the edge of a cliff.
Meaning well is not all that's required here I'm afraid. The times are rather more serious than that.

But what would be likely to have more of an impact?

A) ask people to sell ethically, use and dispose ethically and hope for the best

B) remove the issue entirely

People can't be trusted, people selling things will generally place profits above morals, and walking to the bin would be more effort than throwing it on the floor and so we have literally millions thrown all over the place.

If there was a vote, id vote ban them all day long.

Having the freedom to vape is fine, having a disposable with more issues than tangible benefits is just illogical.

"People can't be trusted" as a rationale on it's own is too subjective and too facile in my opinion.
Without realising I think alot are becoming OK with authoritarianism.

Do people know it's wrong to sell vapes to kids? Or to litter? But still, it happens.


People being untrustworthy is inherently objective and you can find examples of untrustworthy or unscrupulous individuals from the very start of recorded history. Conjecture is not a valid argument man.

Examples are not conclusion though. "People being untrustworthy is inherently objective" is a totally subjective statement, with only the limited examples you give as evidence. If you don't mind me saying, it's quite a bizarre, and typically schozoid way to view the world..
The examples you mention seem to be cherry picked to support your position rather than a wide ranging array of incontrovertible examples that humans can't be trusted with anything ever.
Again, the whole premise is a reductive perversion of what I see.
Saying I am making conjecture by not accepting a subjective statement like "humans can't be trusted" is in fact an objective statement does not make it so does it? It means that you and I have divergent opinions, not that your claim is correct because yoi provide a handful of examples and a statement about history which is no stronger argument than me telling you that I lost my wallet in LIDL carpark last week and somebody handed it in with all the money still there.
Britain came together and ended slavery without being forced. Is that the footprint of an untrustworthy species?

Also you are entitled to your own opinion, but the fact of the matter is people are liars, cheaters, thieves and generally have self interest at the top of their priority list. There are exceptions to the rule of course but even someone as lofty as old mother Theresa has been demonstrable found to be self interested and untrustworthy.

Slavery is not a matter of trust, but ethics at large. Speaking exclusively about trust are you able to give an example to demonstrate as a species we are honest and trustworthy? Do you have antivirus on your PC? Why if we are so wholesome?

Do you lock your door at night? Why?

Do you leave your wages lying on the street? Why?

I think you are just trying to argue for arguments sake, we are the least trustworthy species on the planet.

How about the XL Bully ban? Overreach of a nanny state? or only sensible action after so many brutal attacks?

Put them in plain collars maybe? Ask breeders to only sell to responsible people please?

I am no canine expert. But I have always believed that a dog is a result of it's environment over it's genes.
I have known some exceptionally placid and lovely rottweilers for example.
There have been 4 fatal XL bully attacks of a total 6 fatal dog attacks this year. The truth is they are responsible for a large percentage of fatal attacks.
Are you telling me you believe that is more down to the genetics or criminally negligent ownership of the breed?
If the former is substantially true, then a ban is probably just given the fatalities.
The wider point being, when did banning everything become our first port of call?
It's a beautiful test run for the social engineers and think tanks.
Watching them manipulate the Overton window amongst the oblivious whilst we all get wound up and divided over disposable vapes 😬.

The temperament they have and damage they do is down to genetics. Just as hunting dogs are innately predisposed (I have pointers).

'Britain came together and ended slavery without being forced.'

Yeah what? It took William Wilberforce 20 years of campaigning within Parliament to end slave owning here - by way of a Govt ban. Then another 30 years to end it in the colonies, also by law.

Not every action of Govt is overreach in my view, as long as they remember who works for who.

Well I will concede that you have more dog knowledge than I, which is not difficult. But I'm not trying to die on the XL Bully Hill as much as the "ban everything I don't like" is not the answer hill.
So do you think taking 20 years of campaigning to ban a practice as old as time and as prevelant as slavery shows that we are inherently untrustworthy?
Seems a little bit like looking too hard for ideals in the past.
We were the first to do it and had absolutely no economic motivation to do so. It was a purely moral step to take and lots of rich, influential people had to be taken on to stop it.
CRT makes it easy to look at the slave trade through the lense that it started with the transatlantic one. Not true.

I hear you mate ✊️

Waste is one of the reasons given by local councils.
Protecting children is another.
The plastic parts are recyclable - once collected, separated, cleaned of nicotine and the battery metals recovered. There's also the packaging, clearing empties from the streets and daily fires in landfills.

We're all on a site to buy illegal goods using our bitcoins, so not really blind sheep supporting a nanny state.

If markets could behave responsibly disposables wouldn't exist, and cigarettes would have gone 50 years ago. It's just about personal profits whilst the wider costs are on us.

My understanding is that disposables exist because tobacco funded lobbyists pushed for the 2ml limit which favours their replacement for the dwindling cig market. They just got outperformed by the Chinese.

Completely agree with you on the Online Safety Bill.

I think there is alot of validity to points made in your response.
I 100% disagree with you that banning totally is the right thing to do in most circumstances.
That is just asking for a nanny state and I don't understand how that is not obvious.
But...
Simply being on here does not make you immune to propaganda.
If you have seen the big thread about covid, it is very clear that many users here are absolutely sheep. Nasty, blind, gatekeepers wet dream type sheep. Present company excluded given we are having a sensible, enjoyable discussion right here.
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Because they feel people can't be trusted to do the right thing annd most people cant , not everyone is as elevated as us Biggas :D

If you are right, we are facing certain state tyranny in the next 10 years. Likely that will mean that the type of government available is indistinguishable from the CCP.
This is probably supported by the "buildings energy performance bill" and "online safety bill" recently passed in Parliament without a whimper.

You're spot on here Ess. The over-reach is happening every day and no-one seems aware.
Did you see the gene-editing bill??!!
The "energy bill" will see you put out of your house, and much more.
Massive US style bills are being passed in the UK with so many vaguely defined terms (e.g. 'legal but harmful'), that can be defined later with Statutory instruments, passed by corrupt parliaments. Like they were doing through covid - putting instruments on the table at 9pm on a Sunday night when no-one was there to object.
Many thoughts are already illegal as our friend Eric Blair already knew would happen many years ago...

1984 bro even Tolkien predicted this shit he spoke about it at one of his dinners but he spoke in code. If you ever find it listen to it and think, Hobbits = common folk and wizards = politicians

True but then you still have to problem of waste and thats whats more important i feel.. But saying the main reason is kids is just not the case. It's so more people listen if they said it was just because of the waste then not as many people would care, I get how they work.

Fingers x'd.

They are off their heads bro are they gonna ban fruit cider and flavored beers now also ?? i don't understand how they say its aimed at children just because of the flavours ...

The plan is to outlaw disposables, not fruit flavoured vape.
The waste is phenomenal, as is the take up from children, the strength is 2% by default which is considerably higher than most e-juices before the rules changed. Shockingly addictive

These problems were far less an issue with refillable vapes which didn't have pride of place behind every convenience shop counter at pocket money prices.

i get the waste but still people selling them should be held accountable for selling to kids.

The waste alone is enough for me - more than enough.

I'd argue the same as anyone against banning vapour, but disposables can fcuk right off.

Totaly agree about the waste, My olds wont listen when i tell em to stop buying cheap lighters lol but hey if it cuts waste im all for it .

Seems adults aren't allowed to like sweet or fruity things. 😕 It was the same back when bottled vape juices became popular, anything other than tobacco flavour was decried as being targeted at children.

I get the waste/environmental impact side of it but can't agree with the rationale that naming them after sweets or having bright packaging means they're actually intended for children.

If so many underagers are buying them then surely there should be more of a focus on preventing those sales and imposing hefty penalties for any shopkeepers who get caught selling nicotine to kids?

Far more complex/time consuming and expensive to police corner shops than it is to ban them

Fair point, the usual lack of resources means they can't enforce existing rules so have to make new, even stricter ones to compensate.

agreed it seems too heavy handed maybe they don't have money in the companys like they do with beer and cigs??

Probably spot on there, they have no invested interests in the Chinese vape companies!

I'm intrigued by Trainwreck as apparently it's a very good example, so someone commented the other day. Haven't had any of them mate, unfortunately. The Pink Tuna is very nice, but with your level of smoking I'm not sure I should even mention it!

I really like Trainwreck, not had any for a while. The Purple Biscotti is probably the one I’d go for, sounds like an interesting strain.

yeah i was gonna stick to mids n lower for now higher lvls are for treats in henrys (Way outa my price range for Z's)

Tell me about it 😭 must have checked his page daily since he came back now 😂

His Grapescotti caught my attention couldn’t find any info online about it 🤔

its a grapes & cream x biscotti cross. Indica dom, very tasty. I'll have another smoke of it and the Coco Chanel over the next few days and throw up some descriptions

Bro i could blow stupid money on pontiffs gear ... *bruno mars millionair plays* everyones gotta have a dream though right ? XD

I got some more Pineapple.. But if anyone can shed any light on the other strains i would be greatful ..

Hey crow, I tried the blueberry muffin I think it was and it stunk of musky creamy blueberries.

Terps was of the blue variety with that musky cream in the back notes.

Not the best blue terps I’ve had but a strong mid for sure 👍

what is it mids or what bro?

I dont know but im going to be trying the pineapple and trainwreck soon i think, im in same boat now, rare treat for the higher grades.

i found it bro its high grade .. i never even looked at the exotics or midzotics coz they out of my range for a Z... The pineapple is deffo worth a punt if they have any left.. very nice i thought. strong 2

Sorry mate, blueberry might’ve been the midzotiics my bad, so many levels nowadays 🤷‍♂️

Some advice if you use dodgy film sites...

If looking for reliable sites, please use the r/piracy megathread on reddit. Many popular piracy sites have 100s of fakes going around that have malicious intentions, so it's important to ensure you're using the actual real one.

I also highly encourage the use of an ad blocker and VPN, just to keep your data collection to a minimum. These sites are already doing something illegal, so lord knows where the data they collect on you is going.

I've recently started torrenting instead of streaming online, which some argue is safer. Either way, always be careful on these types of sites.

Top advice, thanks! It was one of the reasons I loved Filmous- because it wasn’t free! They made their money so there was no spam and no scam and you could frequently top your account up on special deals. Generally I paid about 50p- £1 for a latest movie which you downloaded and could keep or share with others. I always said to those who thought I was mad to pay anything “..if I don’t want to pay a quid I probably don’t really want to see it that much in the first place!” 😝

Since my US based mate gave me access to his Plex server years ago I haven't paid for a single movie or series. Known him for over 20 years, we've never met, and I just message him if I want to watch something and within a short while (sometimes minutes) he's sorted it out. He constantly mocks me for asking him to get Dolby True HD / Atmos soundtrack stuff, and it's invariably a print with DTS HD MA instead. If I didn't have a Sonos Arc setup I wouldn't be so precious about it.

He had financial issues about 6 years ago and he posted publicly to ask if people that he'd given access to his server (numerous friends and close family) wouldn't mind chipping in to help with the running costs or he may not be able to keep it up. This was clearly something that he found incredibly hard to do, so I messaged him privately and asked him what he needed to keep it up and not worry about it. He said probably about $500 or so. I knew his PayPal so I just sent it to him. He was stunned, and took down his public post. Told me he was crying as he appreciated it so much. I told him he was a great friend and it was worth it, and I appreciated what he did for me. Haven't paid a penny since, and he's had 2 much better jobs since then. Recently had remote server issues (and Google Drive storage limit issues) so he's given me access to his personal home server. Told him I'm happy to chip in in future for expanded storage for all the 4K Dolby 7.1 he can keep getting me. Saved me a fortune over the years on streaming services alone.

Great story Ruxxy, but unless you are sharing I don’t see how this helps ME! 🙄😜😝

Yeah, sorry, got really baked and wanted to join in. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Hehe…I suspected that was the case!😉

Great story indeed. Really good of you to help out. How does Plex servers work exactly? I've only ever used it to stream from a laptop, didn't know there were servers 🤔

You probably used Plex's server settings to do that. It's just a server he has at home (used to be a remote one with some Google Drive association, before they noticed people were doing shit like this and capped the storage) that's Plex is directed to, so he just shared the server info with me and I added that to my account. Now Plex just looks at that server instead of the previous one, and the experience and interface is exactly the same. It's something you could set up with a NAS and loads of drives to store and stream all of your media.

That's pretty neat mate

It is, isn't it? Really clean interface and nice to use. It's almost as neat as me just arriving in France with 2 chocolate bars and a cart from Poundland. 🥳

XD hope you have a good time XD

Cheers dude!

Wow, have a blast big fella! Having some chocolates here as well 😵‍💫

They fucking melted with the unexplained 4 hour Eurotunnel delay! But, just deformed. May be tricky to dose effectively now. Fuck it. Picked us out for extra customs checks too, but no-one cares about chocolate and carts, it seems...

Just had bull carpaccio followed by lobster with squid ink linguine, with a bottle of decent Cotes du Rhone to share. Couldn't face dessert. Going to get so fucking high on the balcony of the apartment overlooking the sea in a bit. More wine too.

The thing with edibles is you get the munchies and eat more edibles 😅 just have a bite and see what happens.
You are really living the life

The high life? The people on the balcony above me are eating dinner. It's nearly 22:30! In France! So fucking hot today that I nearly melted, so that's probably why. Now, if they were Spanish it would be early.

Anybody got any reliable movie sites including latest releases? I don’t mind paying if it’s cheap- I used filmous for 14 years (!) but it’s finally gone now because I think it was based in Russia (oops!)…

There's an android app and PC program called Sremio. I use to cast to my TV in place of Netflix. HDR works too when casting.

Great free very intuitive app.

Christ. How far into Lost are you? Ever watched it before?

On season 2 right now but back in the day when on TV I think I only got to around season 4. All I really remember is polar bears and mechanical sounding smoke chasing chumps through the jungle so it's like a fresh watch so far.

Remember when everyone talked about GoT constantly, loved it, never missed it? Then the last season happened and it was never mentioned again. Bear that in mind when you finish Lost.

Oh I know about how it ends. The purgatory thing in the church. Even back then hearing that seemed ridiculous and lazy.

Don't even get me started on Thrones. From some of the best TV going, to a steaming pile in a couple episodes.

What pissed me off about it was all of the time we'd invested with all of the mysteries of the island, the numbers, the smoke monster, the time travel, etc, etc. Watched all of the series again before a new series aired so we couldn't miss anything with the complex interwoven plot lines. Then it was what the internet predicted after the pilot episode all along, and almost everything was meaningless. In fact, typing this has made me a little angry just thinking about it again. Christian fucking Shepherd!! Such wasted opportunity.

If they'd bothered to do 1 more series of GoT and had George actively involved in the parts that he hadn't written yet it could have been a masterpiece. Barely put a foot wrong until the last series, then just flushed down the artistic toilet.

Cool!😎 - I’ll check it out thanks!

Fmovies.to - latest released movies / series etc

9animetv.to - all anime

As soon as the homepage loads click the “goto to homepage” button to avoid the homepage pop ups.

You’ll still get pop ups you’ll just have to cancel them by finding the “x” and pressing it .. they hide it inside the ads sometimes 😂 most the time it’s on the left corner of the ad.

Thanks buddy- I’ll check it out 👍👍

https://fullmoviehd4k.to/

Hosts every film and tv show to stream for free.

Wow, thanks mate!

Of course all the porn and betting sites popped up the moment I opened the link😵‍💫…is there a way around it or am I going down a rabbit hole ?😉

Oops, forgot about ads etc.

The site works fine for me with almost no pop-ups at all because of the adblockers i've installed on my browser, and Tor for sites such as these.

Well worth it if you haven't got any installed.

edit: all free and available from the app store of your choice.

Cool, I’ll try a few out.👍

On the other hand it’s kinda nice to know there are three women in my area RIGHT NOW wanting to have sex with me!!😳😜

As the voice of bitter experience Polly, unfortunately those women are not what they may first appear! 😂

Doh! 😩

Free movies;

Flixerplus.com (Works well with or without adblock)

Free sports streams;

Vipleague.lc (Host's all boxing/ufc ppv's along with all other sports)

Where to watch Anime;

Don't 🤣

Excellent!…thanks mate👍

soap2day.rs

I don't get any popups but I do use an adblocker and my VPN has a built in one which may do a better job.

This site has been my go-to for the last year now. Rarely any downtime, got everything I watch on it and is regularly updated.

SOTL

Checking it out- thanks SOTL!😘

Kodi on firestick/Nvidia with a 1tb storage or PC. Seren & Real Debrid, or others if you don’t pay for a boss quality🪼

I have a Firestick somewhere so will defo give that a go- thanks!

Just search firestick tricks, honestly so easy mate - Seren I use then pay a couple quid for Real Debrid (you can download from there aswell). Think Fen still has free ones tho 🤘🏼

I was wondering if someone can help me find a torrent or stream of a Norwegian show called "Dag," linked above, with English subtitles. I've read it's been on Sky in the UK before, and with English subs, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I want to watch it with the missus, who doesn't speak the language. If you find the subs it's a funny watch.

This looks good. My guy is on the case as he likes the look of it too. Hasn't let me down yet, no matter how old or obscure the things I ask him to get are. I'll ask him for the link when he manages it.

Fingers crossed. It should be out there.. somewhere 🤞

Is this what you are looking for? https://bflix.io/tv/dag-xrxoz

bflix is what I've used for years to stream they seem to have almost everything and has subtitles but no idea how good the subs will be

Just tried mate seems legit to me always need a way to keep them happy especially travelling etc 👍

just watch out some cartoons are adult anime make sure you know what they are watching . There is berzerk Ect also Heavy metal and other stuff like fritz the cat (Not good for kids) XD

I use Kimcartoon, however to prevent block ups, I need powerful adblock and ublock plugins. I believe this website to be similar.

Can't beat some King Of The Hill

i was more of a bevis n butt-head kid ren and stimpy ect.. but boomhower is classic

I remember when Beavis n Butthead "Do-America" movie came out in Cinema - I've been looking for a full upload stream of the movie but can't find one. You got a link?

its on hear bro Also i had it on VHS i wonder if my cusin still has it lol XD

Wo0-Hoo.

420 Buds is always a good shout. Usually around Thais mark for UK.

They have some good looking sunset sherbet at the moment.

As I suspected, this is the MKK2020 OG Kush recommendation thread. I'll add my vote too.

You’ve got many choices at this price point, MKK2020 has a very cheap OG Kush it’s good bang for buck has quite a dawg taste.

The Gentlemen Dealers have many affordable options now too I’d check out their menu 👍

Both good shouts.

Forgot MKK2020 is not on the wall, here is a link if you need ^

thnx G i see he has lemon skunk (one of my faves from back in the day) i'll have to grab some if hes got any left when i re-up

who is MKK2020 ?? and TGD is one of my regular go to's. was just lookin for another plug

I’ll second that, MKK2020’s OG Kush is class 😵‍💫

Thanks to everyone who posted or is yet to post i will look into your suggestions.

come on guys, wake up

Not maybe, this is the one that saved me!

Awesome track

oooo, me likes!! Love finding things I've not heard before..

I want to send a million mail in votes for this one.

Code Name

we're at least getting warmer here.

Good to see clean up Borg join in with this. I’m sure you AI have developed sentience 😂 all good with me

love!

Cartman really has range, nice kid too I worked with him years ago.

Have to agree with you there this song really shows his range.

Cartman is hilarious. South Park is the only thing I’ve loved since it started and still watch now at 42. We should start a Cartman clip thread.

what was it like working with the mother?

Mary Jane by Murkage

"A friend in weed is a friend indeed" :)