Agreed, I went to Istanbul during Ramadan a few years ago and it was fantastic. Highly recommend that city, just a beautiful place and the food is amazing!

Cheers. BB

My Auntie and her “friend” went to Turkey during Ramadan and she said it was nightmare. Agreed that it was a beautiful place and the food was beyond superb.

Got to love Turkish food 🤌

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Apparently Jordan is quite chill. Haven’t been but have seen a documentary following a guy (Levison Wood) travelling around Arabia and definitely Jordan is more relaxed than some surrounding countries. Also Petra is in Jordan which looks amazing

Egyptians are hard to beat however you slice it.

I dunno, they didn't do too well in the Suez war... And I'm pretty sure the ottomans beat them a couple times too.

Malaysia & Indonesia definitely worth a mention! Very underrated as tourist destinations. Azerbaijan is a fairly secular Muslim nation, with a big drinking culture & nightclubs, same goes for Kosovo. Friend of mine visited both & had a great time. Apparently Kosovans love Brits. Morocco is very regional, but always friendly. I've never been but some of the best & most hospitable people I've encountered come from there - a colleague of mine gave me a big chunk of hash at work once because he was despairing at the shwag I was smoking (pre-LB days!).

Wow as a British Muslim I came here expecting the same regurgitated racist nonsense you see all over Facebook etc. I just want to say it’s a breath of fresh air seeing all these posts. I also wanted to say that first and foremost I would consider myself British, my dad moved to this country 30+ years ago (whether due to prior circumstances or not) and has built an amazing life for us all here in much we certainly wouldn’t have been able to enjoy in his own country.
The problem is you have people coming over nowadays who do not want to intergrate into British society at all, learn the language? No thanks, try some traditional English food? don’t eat that horrible bland food. Claim the benefits? Yes please. I find myself in a situation where I am unable to buy a home, unable to live comfortably while working what I would say is a fairly good job all because 1000+ goes towards deductions and funding these kind of people. These kind of people are the real problem and tarnish the reputation of everyone else.

To the OPs question most countries barring Saudi Arabia are fine for a visit just be sure to obey the local customs. Saudi Arabia is full of bigoted hypocrites so I would steer well clear of there. Some notable examples which are quite liberal are Morocco and Turkey. Istanbul and marrakech are good city breaks and there are also loads of resort towns such as Agadir, Bodrum etc. Further afield you could travel to the northern areas of Pakistan where I am from we have the 2nd tallest mountain K2, hash from the Himalayas beautiful food and beautiful people. It’s an amazing place and it’s safe despite what you hear on the news. Search karakoram tourism if you’re interested

I think you are confused sir are you for migration or against?
I am talking from first hand experience, I know my dad experienced racism in the 90s and I have experienced it first hand when travelling to more rural parts of the UK. Racists will be racists but I have enough life experience to know not all white people in this country are like that. This is nothing to do with race anyway it’s about British culture and contributing to the society we live in. I have seen myself people come over here, get a council house within 2 months, universal credit, free medical. Add the odd cash in hand job to that and you’re laughing.

So you think the current system where 10-member families can come over here to claim everything when they have a perfectly fine life where they are is ok?
I agree if there is a genuine need for asylum then yes careful support should be provided but also monitored and tapered off when reasonable. The current system can be more profitable than working a 9-5.

sorry for the downvotes, you 2 arent unthoughtful but this thread is about travel

You too mate all the best stay toking!

the other day i was at a meeting with a young lady from afghanistan, she is becoming a teacher here, she is most welcome.

My friend went to Iraq before lockdown and had a brilliant time. Iraqis are very friendly and tjough there are issues a well run tour will be worth it. Some of the architecture looks incredible.

Most ‘ordinary’ people are friendly and accommodating wherever you go, it’s the extremist hardline cultists in positions of power that are the cancer. Look at the U.K. for a hardline extremist cultist government!
Anyway, the Turkish are generally friendly.
There’s the Maldives and Tunisia which are also relatively safe.

you had a point till you insulted the bigga

The fact you had to stoop to childish insults shows that actually you are the moron. :)
I’m pretty amused that you got so worked up about a bit of sarcasm, your medula oblongata kicked in before you had a chance to think!

Luton

I travelled around SE Asia for a few months and I loved Lombok in Indonesia. We were stopping at a homestead that a Muslim family owned. They don't drink but were more than happy to get alcohol in for us travellers.

Indonesia in general I really enjoyed as well as Malaysia.

I'll vouch for Morocco. You've got to be streetwise of course, but a beautiful country with kind and generous people. You soon tune out the prayer calls.

As an english guy with a house in morocco, I'd definitely vouch for that - I fell in love with the place. Tangiers in the nprth is perfect if you dont want things too hot and youd like to still see alot of europeans, casablanca or marakech if your looking for the arab vibes with old medinas and lots of tourist activities - Fez if you like leather. There are even a few smaller places i like such as chef chawen - the blue city which have some amazing places to see. You could even visit the jabala and see farming as it was hundreds of years ago - youll never meet nicer or more genuine people

Of course im biased!

On a side note, if you biggas are into your smoke, go to morocco and head to places like al hoceima in the rif mountains - they grow everything up there and would happily sell you a kilo for less than £100 😁

Sign me up!

Malaysia, lovely people

I'd say pick a muzza country you like a go for it.

Being of Islamic faith I'd say most muslims actually really like modern American and European culture, it fits very well with our cultural structures.

As a non Muslim in an Islamic country, as a guest, you will be treated very well.

Only thing I would suggest is inglis88 mentioned Balsall Heath, cuzi is chatting bubbles. Sounds like a hater, it's just like any other urban area around the world, I should know. I just passed through it.

I'd second Indonesia and Malaysia as being extremely friendly, but the friendliest people I've ever met are from travelling in Kyrgyzstan, where everyone I met wanted you to either stay with them or to take you out for dinner and meet all their family and friends! I've also heard great things about Tajikistan!🙏🏼💚

Morocco ... been there 8 times
Food is terrific, rich culture, wonderful people.
As with other places, beware of scammers, but the public, wow.
I've travelled a lot in my almost 44 years, Morocco is a must see!
Places I would recommend:
Marrakesh, Take a tour to Ourika, beautiful waterfall up there
Casablanca, buzzing city and the largest Mosque in Afrika
PM me for more info if you like ...

Pakistan is very good country to visit, most travel vloggers has said Pakistan is the most hospitable country out of the 44 countries they visited. Personally I'd travel to northern areas of Pakistan and even go to the area near Afgan border if your wanting fresh pure hash

Definitely would recommend Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, Tunisia and Jordan. Malaysia and Indonesia are possibly the friendliest and nicest people I’ve ever met in my life. Also, their food and natural scenery is absolutely top tier. Morocco is a nice place too but I think the others are much better especially for tourism.

All the best,
Tescrow.

Northern Cyprus is good in the summer for a few weeks great food that is inexpensive, for around a tenner you can get a decent 3 couse meal at a nice Chinese for example and really nice backdrops of the sea at most restaurants just don’t upset anyone in the army as they do no fuck about.

I heard a story when I was there about a foreigner who had pissed off one of there neighbours and the neigbour told the army that they had drugs so they got them and held them for 2 days hitting them demanding to know where the stash was buried a proper pistol whipping.

Also be aware if you ever get caught in a Muslim country with narcotics you are on your own no one will risk there reputations to be associated with drugs so no help will be coming anytime soon.

Morocco, Egypt, Turkey and Indonesia are all favourites but a real stand out star for me is Uzbekistan - full of history, especially from the Genghis Khan days as the silk road splits in Uzbekistan where you can go up to Russia/Europe or down to Middle East/Africa, as well as being full of really lovely people. I hope to get back there one day...

I spent 3 years in Indonesia and 3 months in the Philippines with frequent travel to Singapore. Indonesia was like my second home, just stay clear of drugs, which you'll most likely only be offered in bali and the neighbouring islands.
If you don't have an international driving license and shouldn't be on the roads, they'll hand you a piece of paper saying you need to pay £50-100. Don't pay it. Before I lived there and was a tourist I was stupid enough to pay it. You should be paying around £5. Locals pay around £2.
In the 3 years I was there, I only felt unsafe twice. One was on a bus and the people were trying to sell me a fake rolex for an amount of money and they were quite adamant I was gonna pay up. Second time I was out in the sticks with my girlfriend on my vespa and a dodgy couple were following us, clocked them quite early and confirmed relatively soon after they were looking into us. We just headed back to the population. Whether we were somewhere we shouldnt have been and peaked interest, ill never know!

Going back to drugs, my apartment was randomly raided for a drugs test. Not shitting you I open the door to a big team of narco agents and a TV news crew. They were doing random drugs tests in the neighbourhood. Literally take me to my toilet, pass me a plastic cup and watches me with my back turned pee in the cup! Can't make the shit up! Fortunately all was good.

I have highlighted a few of my bad experiences however it can't replace the 100s of amazing experiences I gained. The people are friendly, the food is good. Number 1 rule when visiting Asian Street food stalls, go where all the locals go, if you don't follow the rule you'll end up code brown.
Stay safe. Stay wise. Be respectful. Carry as little as possible and follow the laws, you'll be safe in almost any country.
Also the dude at the airport literally asked for an underhand of £15 to let me through the gates. Explained i had overstayed by one day. Saved me a huge amount of time with all the paper work and was a fraction less than what I would have had to pay to their government! The hilarious thing was he was sat on a closed gate and I skipped the busy queue 😂

Be prepared for the constant megaphone blasting prayers. Try to get a room as high and soundproofed as possible;)

i actually enjoy the meditation breaks, especially the feeling that people all over the world are sharing the moment. as long as i'm in the right time zone ;)

Even at stupid o’clock in the morning when trying to sleep?;)

I have been to a few Muslim places and am now sick of it. Just like if I see another temple or church;)

I hear Baghdad is nice this time of year.

Saddam Hussein went out shopping one day. Upon his return he was greeted by Uday, who said “what’s in the bag dad?”

your brother, now behave

From my own experience Muslims are very friendly people in general

Just abide by the culture and norms you will be fine

Mary <3

Turkey & dubai are very welcoming to tourists.

The worst islamic destinations ive been to is tunisia & london.

Heya Muslim here albeit not so much a practising one anymore.

If it’s Muslim history and culture you’re after I would say Istanbul (research Ottoman Empire before you go). Also Jordan has lots of history dating back to the time of the crusaders. Do a bit of research on the crusade and salahuddin ayyubi before you go (he’s a bit of a hero amongst our Kurdish brothers).
Egypt has more history about the ancients than Islamic history. Believe it or not Saudi Arabia has very little. Non Muslims are also forbidden to enter Mecca - the holy capital.
Jerusalem would have been a good shout had it not been for the current conflict.

Please let us know where you decide!

Oman. Friendly not super paced people are chill very beautiful scenery

Savile Town is friendly

Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:

1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.

2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.

3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.

4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.

We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.

In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.

We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.

Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.

Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.

Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.

Peace yo.

Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.

Please dont have the idea that all Scots want independence
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.

The whole SNP "independence" thing is a facade.

The SNP want to leave our union and join the EU club because they'll give them more money than Westminster does.

They still want to be financially "dependent", just a more generous sugar daddy.

I'm talking about the SNP, not all Scots :)

High Raskolnikov. Your post showed as a comment on mine so You're addressing me, then. I have no intention of stating anything about what Scots want. My point is that I consider an English Independence Referendum is incumbent on ourselves to determine our Englishness without the input of the other three nations. Devolution, revolution, phooey! We want ablution. Wash our hands of the lot of you. Do we? Who does? Has anyone got this underway? Sturgeon and Salmond? Something fishy about those two!

Interesting points Vikosh. I feel that England is a pretty tribal place.

Being born and growing up in the North, spending the last 2 decades in the South, and finally relocating back to the North of England, i’d say there are even considerable cultural and economic differences between different areas of this country.

There was a political movement that started a few years ago, that seems to now be on the back burner, for northern independence. While this is a lofty pursuit, and i’m unsure how successful it might be if implemented, I think it suggests that certain areas of our country define themselves not on a national footing but a regional one.

Personally I consider myself English and Irish, rather than British, but more crucially, being Northern trumps ‘Englishness’ for me…. race doesn’t come into it for me. Social class plays a large factor too.

I’d take a working class community in the North populated with English South Asians, Roma, and West African people over a predominantly white, middle class community in rural Hampshire- this is down to personal experience and unscientific, just my preference having lived in both places.

Great topic!

I certainly don’t need a referendum to establish my Scottishness.

I wouldn’t blame the English people if they started to see things this way but we are still all better as a union and I think you know this. Sturgeon and Salmond are just typical politicians mate who lying is a big part of the job description. There has been a huge change in Scotland in my lifetime where the working class vote has moved away from labour to the snp. Labour has shot themselves in the foot so many times but also the snp politics has changed. I have been on this earth a long time and the snp have changed so much. Sturgeon is still using her bloody daily briefing up here to try to indoctrinate the nation. I’m going to stop here as I am ranting.

British here too. I feel like the silent majority of my country are the same

Not English, then. To be born an Englishman is to win first prize in the lottery of life. That life being the infliction of Imperialism on 25% of the world's population. Nothing wrong with that, was there?

Cool. What were you born?

Obviously, not britain. Tiocfaidh ár lá.

Get your Brits out!!

Sturgeon's manifesto was just a wish list, impossible to accomplish. I don't want Scotland to leave. We may rib each other on things but I'd like to think we have each others back when things get tough. We live on the same island. Crazy to break up.

I am British not Scottish or Welsh or Irish or English but British.
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.

Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.

She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.

I am British loud and proud !!!

I’m British and Scottish mate. Think it is possible to be both. I’m not interested in Independence and believe it will not happen and will be a disaster if it does. In Scotland Salmond courted a certain block vote and got it. That is what has got the snp to where they are. That and shortbread tin thinking. They will soon want to let over 14 s vote. As I said in another post, Scottish Independence is not the endgame for a lot of snp.

Just curious, what do you believe to be the SNP's ultimate goal?

Wait do Scotts not have bangers and mash?

I always thought this, we are taught to be separate and see our differences constantly, great way for a small percentage of people to control us with concepts like "nationalism" and this your "land" blah blah.

What an outstanding post thank you

this bigga

Not necessarily, Scottish nationalism is an attempt to escape racism

good one, i guess that goes for any anti colonial movement like vietnam for example

It was a joke mate but fuck, Vietnam. Is that what you are comparing Scottish Independence to?

Are you talking about Arab supremacists like Hamza Yousaf ? I'm unaware of any other racists in Scotland .

Sounds like something a Scottish nationalist would say.

Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.

Unless is the European Union.

lol. ok, i'll bite...

nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.

racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.

neither is mandatory last I heard.

a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.

Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.

This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.

I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.

Sounds kinda like racism.

The national front! They were nationalists that says all you need to know!!!

national socialists also skew a little right

Look into snp and the past. They have changed a lot.

Yes you could look into the SNPs distant past or alternatively you could look at what the Tories are doing right now as we speak under your very nose.
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!

Not even Ethno nationalism is racist . You can love your own ethnicity more than others without hating them .

Because we can change our nationality as it’s make believe. You cannot change your DNA which is real

nationalism is more like greed, racism is more like hate.

Nationalism has more positive range for example promoting culture. Racism is usually associated with negative feelings about other races.

They both seem doomed if you ask me.

only in touchy feely places like the uk ... not in most other countrys ... too much self hatred in this country ...

Not synonymous, but it's an interesting point.
In some sense, I think it is an individual and academic choice to be patriotic (even that is turned into a dirty word now), root for your country or be proud of it voxally. It's OK to like your country if you really do. You do live there after all. It's just a country. Other countries are not minorities in their own country as the British are not here.
As you allude to, it is a lottery, not a skill, being British (or Irish for that matter). There is little merit to being "proud" I agree. But it doesn't oppress anyone or anything in itself. It is a way to preserving culture and way of life. You can't pick who you think should be able to do that.
Otherwise, the takeaway is, only the oppressed are allowed to be proud of anything and preserve culture. What kind of world is that?
I do think that no matter what, being proud of your race is pointless, stupid and divisive.
It suggests a nexus between a superiority or exceptionality and racial group.
After all, skin colour is decided only by a few alleles in the genome and indicates very little about one's charachter.
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Racism is necessarily exclusionary. But Nationalism isn't.

In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.

I think it is oxytocin that causes the problems as it creates aggressive in-grouping, be it from the innateness from skin colour or the innateness from where someone was born.

There was a study I linked to but there is more out there about the dark side of oxytocin. There was quite a few articles in the dumber section of media about giving men oxytocin to fix their aggression problems when in fact it might be a major factor in causing them.

I'm a nationalist. I want England and all our major cities to be English and not resemble Bangladesh. That makes one a racist nowadays.

If the reason you give for those cities resembling Bangladesh is people of other races, that's kinda the definition of racism. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a closet racist.

The people make the nation. Change the people and the nation changes with it. Very simple concept to understand that is being proved everyday in this country. Natives are being demographically replaced in our homeland, but because we're white native displacement is considered a moral good. Soon British children are going to grow up as hated minorities in their own country. The clock is ticking...

the fruits of being a coloniser

So it's about revenge? Not exactly on to a winner with that argument. 99.99% of Britons had nothing to do with the British Empire. Just say you have an anti-white bloodlust and shut up

no, its just a result of a worldwide empire. i love whites and certianly wont shut up in the face of an ignorant one.

Nonsense answer. It's happening in Ireland as well. They didn't have an Empire and were subjugated by us.

I was just watching this video of Nick Shirley in Ireland . https://youtu.be/WfJggeIw_94?si=53bYT9Vv6eHP90wL

I think Ireland might be in even bigger trouble than Britain. There doesn't seem to be any political representation for them at all.

I think you're right . However , they do community a lot better over there . I reckon they're more likely to fight back sooner . We've already seen it in places like Coolock .
It really is awful what they've done to Ireland .

Yeah grassroots support is there in greater numbers than Britain

I have two lefties in my DMs threatening to post my address and do violence against me because I called out the violence of Islam . These lefties are truly disgusting

by bigger trouble do you mean vastly more successful?

The reason certain areas of Britain look like Bangladesh now is because we've let in too many people from other cultures without giving them a chance to assimilate .
I have no hate towards Bangladesh . I'd love to visit some day , but when I go to London , I don't want to be surrounded by Bangladeshis , I want to be surrounded by Londoners and their culture . London is lost now . The culture of London can never recover from the insane amount of immigrants we've allowed to move there . It's very sad for anyone who loves British culture . Of course racists like yourself who hate whites and Brits can't see the problem .

London never had any 'culture'? Means one thing that was ever cultural about London, that you don't see now.

How can you say such a thing ?
Is London the only city that never had any culture ? What about Tokyo , Rome , or Paris ?
Does culture even exist in your world view ?
London used to be the capital of British culture . The British people are the one thing that made London a cultural hub . Those people are being pushed out at an alarming rate . 40% of London are now foreign born . These people have brought their own culture with them . This is why some parts of London feel more like Bangladesh these days .
Bangladesh is a very apt example as It's a region which has recently had it's own culture eradicated by fundamentalist expansionist Islamists . Bangladesh should be a warning to us about the dangers of uncontrolled immigration .
I don't know about you but I love my people . I don't want to see them replaced by people from the third world . I think that would be extremely racist .

Even through that lengthy rant, at no point did you mention any examples of London culture that no longer survive to this day. Why is that?

If you calm down and read more critically , you will see that I offered the British people themselves as the one cultural asset which no longer survives in London . Now answer my questions .

So you don't know. Just say that. British people are not a CULTURAL TRADITION. That and, they are still in London. Your issue is just plain racism, you don't like seeing people that aren't white in your country. Here's a few examples of culture that still exist in London. Pie and Mash, Cockney slang, Shakespeares globe, the museums, the cathedrals, the monarchy. I'd go on, but what's the point. You're a loser Pete. I'm a proud Scottish Nationalist, and we Love our culture, we also love new cultures and people's that have settled in Scotland and consider it home. You know why? Because we aren't like you. We're accepting. We want the best for Scotland, not for Whites, because fuck that stupid bigotry racist shite. You can be Brown, Black, Green or Blue, we don't care, as long as you love Scotland too, and contribute to the nation. Whether that be through paying taxes, or education. People make Scotland. Not just white people. Guess what? The only country that tried to destroy our cultural traditions is now our friends. Well, some of you.

You get racists in every country, the UK is no exception, but the way you talk is frankly disgusting.

What a nasty and unfounded rant . You know we can disagree and still be friendly .
My best and oldest friend is half Ghanaian . I love all ethnicities but I have a duty to protect my own .
I don't want to see any ethnicity replaced in their own lands , but I have a special obligation to the replacement happening here .

The British people are the ones who carry the British tradition . The people who replace us will not carry on the culture in our place .
Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London ? The shocking speed of the replacement means there is no hope for new comers to assimilate .
You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in .
Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born ? These people bring their own cultures . At that concentration , they couldn't assimilate even if they wanted to .
How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture ?

So you're best and oldest friend is not your own, because he's Ghanaian? What an absurd view.

"Who is going to be speaking cockney or eating pie and mash once there are no Brits left in London?" why, are all those non whites going to commit genocide and Take Urr Cuntray?

"You are being very short sighted if you consider yourself a proud nationalist yet can't see the danger your culture is in" our cultural heritage has never been stronger, not since you lot tried to destroy our culture by banning our language, banning our kilts, removing us from the highlands, but, we forgave you sad little people.

"Are you not shocked that 40% of London are now foreign born?" I don't understand where the problem is here?

"How would you feel about replacing 40% of Tokyo with Americans ? Would it still be Japanese or would it ruin the culture?" Considering that the Japanese are very western leaning, they still have a fantastic historical heritage and legacy, that will never go away. Just like how Londons heritage is very much alive to this day.

Again, you're just a racist Pete.

I never said my Ghanaian friend wasn't my own . Why are you misrepresenting me ?
He is a very British black man . He also understands this problem . Would you call him a racist for holding the same views as me or does he get a free pass for being black ?

If you replace all the British people with foreigners then obviously the culture will be lost . It hasn't taken a genocide to replace 40% , but violence is certainly not off the table for incoming cultures . Look at what the Muslims recently did to the Hindus in Bangladesh for example .

If the Japanese are replaced by Brits , they will obviously lose their strong culture . This goes without saying .
You're being unreasonable and actually absurd in your denial . It's basic maths . I think I'll leave it there . Please stop calling me a racist without a shred of evidence for it .

British people are ''culture'' because culture is simply the expression of your national character and personality. You live and breathe culture simply by being who you are. Only small numbers of foreigners can be integrated into that. You change the people and the culture changes with it

lmao

Both people in this conversation should yeet themselves of the nearest cliff.

Your IQ is less than the number of toes you have.

Threats and insults are all you have .
Get an actual argument before you talk about other's IQ .
I scored 133 on the Stanford Binet myself . That puts me in the 98th percentile . How about you ?

So you deny the English of their genetic heritage ? For you to understand how racist that it , I want you to apply your reasoning to any other ethnicity ?
Are the Japanese , Chinese , and Africans racist for holding these ethno nationalist views or does it only apply to white people ? If you're only applying this standard to white people then you are the racist .
Of course it's possible to be civically British and ethnically foreign , but like any foreigner who moves to another country , we should respect the people we are trying to join . That includes the ethnicity and the culture of the natives . There's nothing racist about respecting the countries that take us in .

English genetic heritage? Which one? The ones that originate from Germania? The Vikings? The Norman's? Your genetic heritage has more influence from other nationalities, not just the Angles. Who were German.

As is true for every single ethnicity on Earth . Yes , we are a mix , just like everyone else , but I don't think you're denying the existence of ethnicity , are you ?

Just a little helpful guidance for you there Petey boy.

No, I'm not. Ethnicity has nothing to do with skin colour.

Race is extremely important to the ethnicity of the Japanese , Chinese , Africans , etc .
Ethno nationalism is the norm in the rest of the world .
Do you think the rest of the world are all racist too ?

I had to repeat myself because you didn't address this point the first time I made it . Instead you chose to argue about semantics . I don't think you have an actual argument

Your lot do nothing but give the normal populace a headache.

You can't engage me on this argument because it would expose your double standard and prove that you are the racist one here .
That's why all you can do is dodge and insult .

I'm racist because I have no issue with immigration and multiple cultures? That's new. I'm very happy to welcome people who want to make a life here, that want to work and contribute, I couldn't give a flying fuck what nationality someone is, or what skin colour they are, as long as they aren't like you Petey boyyo. You really should reread this entire conversation.

You're a racist because you deny the British of their culture and genetics . Unless you hold this view consistently for all people , Africans , Asians , etc , then you are being racist .

Genetics, really? So you must be white too be British? Nobody is destroying British culture you fuckwit Pete. You couldn't even give an example of British culture that no longer exists.

Nonsense . Please try harder to track our conversations

Still no argument . I really don't think you have one . It's all baseless insults with you lot .

My argument has already been covered. Nobody is taking away Londons culture. You're a fool for thinking it.