Any news on when we can expect to see changes? The BTC gas fees are seriously hurting vendors and customers. 02/02/24.

God speed and good luck.

Nice to see some change in the making. Just out of curiosity, why a stablecoin? Would it not be easier to just implement Sol as the payment token? Don't mean to be negative but it's very difficult to create a stablecoin that will continuously maintain it's peg. Is it an algo based stablecoins you guys are developing?

I did see that Circle have just released their EURO stablecoin which afaik is on Solana Chain. Could possibly be an idea to use. Would be like USDT but without having to pay ETH gas fees.

usdt solana has been around for a while, stable and smallest fees around

this is correct, usdc is also a popular usd stablecoin.

the new euro backed stable coin is a good suggestion and we are keeping an eye on it's progress.

They will use an existing stablecoin on Solana.

Privacy is decent and network fees will be minuscule although you will need a tiny amount of SOL in order to transact.

is it actually tether? if so how will they avoid addresses being frozen if the wrong attention ever fell on here?

Definitely would be better with BCH. I don't trust solana one bit tbh

bch was deprecated the day it was born.

Sad day indeed given it was what BTC should have been. (Could have been).

It's time will come though when people say fuck paying $XXX's in fees bcoz that is frankly ridiculous for the oldest crypto going on 16 years now...

Understandable given the number of blockchain halting episodes in recent years...although I do genuinely believe Solano to be a more robust and dependable chain now...although still nowhere near as decentralised as Cardano....which along with low fees now has a number of stablecoin options

mmm 'blockchain halting' or centralised ownership may be a better term for it.
It's shady af in my opinion, and, BCH is well.. bitcoin. Still decentralised, just the better version with bigger block size and vastly cheaper fees...

Yup. Its supposedly sacrificing the decentralisation for far higher TPS....but the fact it can be turned on and off doesn't sit right.
Can't wait to see the Cardano network properly battle tested at scale...been using some Defi Dapps and have been impressed so far.
Bitcoin Cash would be a nice option here though

If you like ADA, check out ERG, basically a BTC successor without any VC backing, fair pre-mine, ASIC resistant, POW, eUTXO etc...

Are you actually creating a new coin from scratch? Would it not make sense to at least switch to a currently existing coin that resolves some of bitcoins issues? At least as a temporary solution until your new coin is finished.

Thank you for working on a fix for this :)

they should just switch to litecoin or even better monero

tether is centralised and they can freeze addresses. There is a reason no illicit market uses tether, there are too many cons and barely any pros

To little to late for some, how many customers have been lost now!?

Ireland is like a graveyard and the UK is almost as bad.

This should of happened ages ago and now just feels like we are in a perpetual nightmare.

If they wanted different coins they would of implemented them by now. I would say at this rate we have a few weeks left of trading till we go bust.

And all the while the buyers keep throwing money at a new vendor and constantly promote that vendor without regard or any sense of loyalty to others it is just typical of the society that we live in. Where has the peanut vendor gone??

Why is no one calling this out??

It's as simple as this really, there's teenagers setting up websites for their 'NFT Projects' which have all crypto payments implemented including BTC, ETH, ADA, XTZ, SOL etc... If LB really wanted to utilize another chain or layer 2, it would of been sorted a long time ago.

I see a lot of people going on about privacy concerns etc, yet majority are using a CEX to on-ramp/off-ramp so your privacy is already out the window I'm afraid. Even BTC, to people that know what they're doing, come on it really ain't hard to follow the coin on-chain.

We are buying bits of herb at the end of the day, LB is pretty tame with the products on here so I can't imagine feds are gunna be spending resources and money to track down JimmyBois half oz he bought for the weekend. Obviously maybe a bit different for vendors though I appreciate that.

Is anyone actually able to clarify what the issue is? Is it something to do with the escrow settlements which is causing problems for implementing? Tbh it would be cool for th escrow to be a SC and just autonomously act out.

Very good points mate, most of which could no doubt be answered if the Borgs would only talk to us in more than riddles.🙄
Personally I suspect that the payment processor transaxe.com insists only on btc and to offer an alternative means a departure and a whole new processor which is blowing noodles.
Just a hunch 🤷‍♂️

Yeah the cryptic riddles and communication could be a bit better!
Must be something like that, all I can think is that it's moreso to do with transaxe side of things. But then again speaking as someone who has very little knowledge on coding, even I can create a SC that receives payments, distributes under certain parameters/conditions, creates information functions etc.. It'd be simple ASF don't get me wrong, but I really don't think this would be hard at all for someone that is clued up on it.

You could probably even copy and pasta the template lol

It seems to of gone quite there was talk about it in December.

Yes you are right with the next generation of quantum computers and AI most sites are going to become even more vulnerable.

29/01/24

I find it astonishing that they're happy for buyers to go elsewhere. I use another platform now and pay in LTC, £100 costs me about £3 to buy and less than 1p to transfer which is completed in less than 20 minutes. Its a real shame as I love LB but I'm not willing to pay through the nose for the privilege when there are very much comparable market places, that accept 3 or 4 payment methods.
08/02/24

Good work guys. Have we any rough ETA's of when implementation will be? Wish I could help but I not very computer minded.

Have you got any links to your current works?

Any chance of an update on this blockhead?
17/02/24

Saw something recently on a completely random topic from transaxe saying this is all still months away from implementation

to me it still feels like the seemingly intentional vagueness of it all is a bit odd, and not really aiding progress
17/02/24

The more payment methods the better in my opinion but i get how hard it is to restructure these things.
Pity the evil overlords wont let you guys just use Fiat payments would be cool if i could just buy using the good old British pound.

Yet there are other clear net sites that do just that- give the option to pay in £££...why are they not bothered I ask myself?

Good to hear lets just hope it is as stable as BTC with price fluctuations would be good for vendors while we are waiting to be paid out to have the facility to switch into stable.

22/12/23

🙌🏼🙌🏼 thank you!!!!

Any updates on this?
I along with many others, no doubt have had to resort to other sources that accept other crypto (ltc) with practically no fees, I love LB but when I can save a small fortune, I'm spending my crypto elsewhere.

What sort of timeframe are we looking at for a move to using a different coin .. we need it now more than ever .

All the best LB Famo 💪💪

Who's "we"?

Skinnyman dropped one of the best UK rap albums (council estate of mind).

Agreed. One of the best ever.

Damn, forgot about this.. will be on that tomorrow!

Tru dat
If i make thru the night i'd be surprised i'd be surprised is still one of my favs

Agreed big up skinny

I’m old so I’d argue Kalashnekoff, Fallacy or pretty much half of the old mud fam (skinny, Chester), got to give a mention for doc brown though, new album is nice, still going

Fucking love a bit of k-lash tho... it’s murda, black rose etc yeah... gonna bang that parrowdice album like NOW lol

Yeh that K-lash album was a banger, actually gave it another listen not long ago and it’s still a fucking banger. I’d say any from K-lash, Kano, Taskforce and Jehst.

shed you know the deal lol! but there is no way we can put this down to ONE best uk rapper, Klash & terra firma... MUD fam, That arab uk guy from deal real days cant remember his name but TOP lyricist, Too many to mention TBH,

Shit even used to bump pound sterling and RSG. So much styles in the UK rap scene over the last 15 years its hard to say whos the number 1!

I love doc Brown's music, but the guy's an arsehole

K-lash though, man he can rap!! Even the young'uns love his stuff too

He had some absolutely bangers tbf citizen Smith vol 2 no more said

That parrowdice album is absolutely timeless never get bored of listening to it, pound sterling use to like some of his stuff from back in the day? Can you remember channel u, that was on sky, had all the upcoming young english talent, use to watch religiously, use to have some mad guys on there!!!!

Great shout there - were you also a Yungun fan? He’s back with new stuff under ‘Essa’ - still awesome! Also used to bang Universal Soldiers every single day - going to put it on now in fact, happy Friday all!

Yungun! Yeah man, he had a phat album with Mr Thing called GMB (grown man business) and he got a song on there called 'peter pan syndrome' which actually makes my heart bleed.... that dude is an entertainment lawyer now!

Top album!! Yeah man that’s crazy isn’t it!! Wiccaman theory by Chester P used to get me like that! The ten pound bag mixtapes were brilliant too. Loving this thread, now reminded me of how much I love Dabbla and LDZ, having a great day :D

Ten pound baaaaagggg...oh my days... the problem with smoking so much weed is I forget too much music lol...damn, louis slipperz on the mix...some of the beats of those were mind-wreckingly phat...man, I got to dig those out...yeah, loving this thread too man, nice to know I'm not the only one still rocking out Taskforce and Skinnyman and shit...oh shit...Sway...remember that cat? He did the tune over the car racing tune..ah shit...memory lol...I know the one, think it was called 'up your speed', so many bangers lost to the pit of my weeded memory lol...

Hahaha mate 100% the same!! Weeded memory sucks!! Yeah I’d completely forgotten about Sway! Flo’ Fashion was an absolute banger as well!!

Anything off that album was fantastic.

Download still cracks me up when he's talking about going to an Internet cafe to find a man named kazaa haha.

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii give yooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu, bluebells... The memories!

Agree with pretty much all of the below suggestions.

Recently found this banger by Kano, D double E and Ghetts.... Such a tune, such great energy... Real uk OG's. Kano's got the longevity

... enjoy ...

Kano is tremendous live too. And so is d double e....ghetts is passable but compared to the other 2 he falls short in my eyes. I've seen all 3 of them perform multiple times

Yeah that live performance is sick!

Didn’t even need to play this via link got this one backed up on the old I tunes... Badabapbap!!! Big tune

Akala for the win. Definitely NOT Skinnyman... Although I did like Council Estate of Mind.

Jehst..lyrically stunning and his delivery unrivalled!

OLDsKoOl... Return of the drifter was an epic album.. still gets alot of play in my dojo lol! How could we forget Jehst!

You like braintax too?

Anyone remember roots manuva?

Witness the fitness!!! Legend

taskmaster burst the bionic zit spitter, break neck speeds we drown 10 pints of bitter.

classic

Movements

Yup

Gotta be klashnekoff, that mans next level!!!!

Still listen to “sagas of kalashnekoff”. If anyone is wondering, the film used for the skits is “Babylon”. A great film, its like a reggae “commitments”

Every Thursday at 7pm we should all go outside and start shouting "can't take no more of that"

Hahahahaha yessssss man!!!!

You sir are a genius.

Definitely gonna check that out, nice one!!

Boom!
K, lash your rasclart neck off

Split you in half like a gum blast from lennox!!! LENNOX!!!

Get dropped on your doorstep like Dando. Who writes that haha?

That black cunt outta stokie, banana mango munching monkey, ill kick off ya door like jumanji!!! Hahahaha that guy!!!

FOCUS MODE "This is hot shit! You don't know silly, come on buy that"

Chester P in my opinion. I'll never sell my early TaskForce vinyl

Love a bit of Chester and early Task Force... Great shout!

Rodney P’s got to be on this list!!

Fliptrix, Chester P, Akala, Lowkey and skinny man... Can't really claim one is better than the other, they have all reached maxed skill in their unique styles

Glad to see someone get fliptrix in there. Saw him and skinny man live at subterranea just before lockdiwn and its unreal how much stage presence fliptrix has...and he's a fucking giant lol

I'm younger than some on this thread so don't know too many old school UK rappers. Mainly like old American rappers/mcs from the 90s, but would also give a vote to skinny man. Council Estate of mind is one my favourite albums of all time and its criminal he's not better known (In the mainstream).

If we're talking about modern day.. casisdead is currently the best in the scene/UK in my opinion, bar none. Can't wait for his new album to drop.

Kano

Def a personal favourite. Don’t think he’s made an average album and seen him live a couple times and never disappointed.

As much as I properly love late 90s/early 200s UKHH, I have to say that Dabbla is right up there for me.

LDZ, Dead Players, his stuff on HF, and his solo albums on Potent Funk, he's kept it fresh, pushed hard and spits like nobody else. His wordplay is incredible.

Dabbla isassivley slept on. Psychoville is a masterpiece

wondered when dabbla was gonna get a mention..

Hmmmm, Good question man, Jehst is up there for me.. But, with the new school vibes of like Ocean Wisdom, Verb-T. I’m not sure anymore :)

Top reply that! Early Jehst is hard to beat in my book! Chester P also up there - more recently loving Lee Scott (by no means would class him as UKs greatest but he’s a personal fav of mine :)

Chester P is also a bloody lovely bloke to boot. A carer these days and seems.to have his head properly screwed on

Chester P for mayor!!

Ches is a fucking dude...he dropped one of the hottest 'fire in the street' freestyles ever...dude is deep as fuck, massive respect for him.

MC Pitman ftw!

Loooool...Witness the Pitness.....ah man, forgot all about him

Second that!

ches don't like MF doom he says hes a traitor to the uk scene but MF's perants moved to the US he had no choice and i just think ches is bitter and jelouse he never got what MF doom did ..

Ocean wisdom I think has one of the best flows in the UK scene Verb-T perfect for a heavy zoot and a relax

Dave for me. His lyrics and musical ability is unrivalled imo

Silver Bullet, hands down is the best UK rapper (really showing my age). 20 Seconds was good but 'Bring forth the Guillotine' is a classic.

Some greats already mentioned! but Dizzie rascal has to be in there for me! . Stefflon don , Jaykae and Bugzy Malone have some tunes too. Could be cheating but 21 savage as well I’m sure I saw he was from Newham originally?

So many of these roads lead right back to DIzzie

I think he is you know!!! Who was the the other mc how was orginally in the newham generals, cant remember his name to stoned!!! Haha, ive even seen him live aswell at show at london dungeons, my mate won vip ticketsto see them and dizzee and jammer!!! Only 200 people whata fucking night that was!!! Still cant remeber his name!!! Haha

Monkstar!!!! I knew i get it in the end!! Haha he was sick

Bullet from a guuuuuuunnnnn!!! Derek B was the fucking man, he must have been one of my first UK hip hop heroes! Ahhh, this brings back memories..who remembers Normski?! Cannot for the life of me remember the show he had on tv for a while but I fucking loved it...

Was it called Def 2 on BBC 2?

Ooooh, that rings a bell...really can't pull it out of my brain, Normski was the presenter and it was literally the only thing on tv that had any flavour at all, was late on a Friday night iirc

Wretch 32 for technicality

f you're talking the hardest..

Slick Rick

Uk rapper lmao

Born and raised in London before moving to the US lmao

Mic righteous??????

Showing my age ( and probably giving away that I’m more of a guitar guy ) but The Streets first album is awesome

I think for me it’s Potter Payper if you want that real rap but grime wise I’m going to say Ghetts.

No one shuts down a race like d double,
But ghetts is definitely the best lyricist in grime

Roots manuva

All completely subjective but

Kano is my all-time favourite.

Boy in da corner was a groundbreaking album, and has stood the test of time (still sounds amazing to this day) so Dizzee has to have a place on the UK rap Mount Rushmore.

Also high ratings and much love for Klashnekoff, JME, Sway, Devlin, and Roots Manuva.

1/2 the other candidates wouldnt have existed without Dizzee

It’s gotta be Skepta or Dizzee man!

Nothing touches Konichiwa, Boy in da corner or Showtime.. nothing!

Dave

Ty (RIP my bro), Skinny, Manuva. Orifice.

Funky DL (Old school) & Wretch 32 (Nu School)

For skill, Harry shotta. Me personally. Then Kalashnekov dizzee and the streets. A grand don’t come for free was a masterpiece

Honestly I think chipmunk will beat any UKrapper in a clash. Past or present

GHETTS' LATEST ALBUM SERIOUSLY MAKING ME CONSIDER HIM THE UK GOAT

HIM AND KANO ARE PROBABLY THE BEST DUO THIS COUNTRY EVERY PRODUCED

JME all day. Showing my age now.
Rating Ocean Wisdom atm tho
Far too many good ones to list on here tho.

JME is good but I think Skepta takes it for me man

Double S rap dis tho <<<<

So many to choose from such as Ghetto but I'm gonna have to go for his old mate Kano. Special place in my heart for that donny.

kanot sorry, but i'm open to you convincing me otherwise

Yeah technically Kano is a master... but never liked his style

I get what you mean I'm mainly on about his first shit after that he got annoying as fuck when he switched his style tbh lol

It’s all a bit mid 2000s Roll Deep etc. Good proving grounds for the future, some good MCs came out of it, but in itself it’s pretty shit. I mean compare that to some Wu Tang shit, which I guess would be the New York streets equivalent 15 years earlier... doesn’t even compare.