It used to annoy me a bit that people were so obsessed with 'Cali'. The whole thing just seemed like utter nonsense but thesedays I just figure if that's what certain people want then let them have it. No harm done (except to their wallet).

I'm sure there are some banging Cali products out there, I know TGD have a solid reputation for their imports.

To me it though it seems a bit like Cristal Champagne. Sells at about £300 a bottle and I've been guilty of paying that myself for a mates stag do. Is it any better than Veuve Clicquot at £50 a bottle? Well everything is subjective but personally I don't think so.

Not to mention even Veuve is outclassed in blind taste tests by supermarket brands almost every Christmas. I think a year or so ago Aldi was smashing it with a £15 bottle of fizz people couldn't get enough of.

But you're not going to look very cool turning up to a stag do with a bottle of Aldi's finest...

So it has its place.

The idea that just because its grown in California automatically makes it superior is (in my humble option) very misguided. But we've all got opinions. 😂

Interestingly my grow shop guy was talking to me about synthetic vs organic bud hardener a few months ago. Synthetic being PGR, organic tends to focus more on raising PK levels and also adding things like mollases etc (I'm no expert I don't use either) and when I asked him what the benefit of the synthetic over the organic was... he said

"it all depends whether your customers want that whole 'Cali' look. If that's what they want go synthetic"

That about summed it up for me.

As I said, there is genuine high quality California weed going round, even on here, but there's also a hell of a lot of neo PGR riddled 'Cali' rubbish that's probably UK grown and is sold at an elevated price because you can play marbles with it. 😉

Not to mention the points PP has made which are entirely valid. It seems we're getting the dregs from the west coast that aren't ending up being burned.

Anyway, live and let live. If people want it and enjoy it, and are willing to pay for it, then that's totally up to them.

Just my 2p as always.

Cheers. BB 🍻🇬🇧🐶

Thanks for your thoughts BB :) - for me, the thing that matters most is the homegrown, organic, care aspect. These plants are living things, so how could all of that (and the reverse - chemicals etc) not have an impact on the quality of the high and any negative aspects? Some of the best stuff I've ever smoked was grown by my friend here, so I never felt the need to get Cali at all. Definitely always seemed like a bit of a fad to me, as you were saying (the idea that it's automatically superior), plus I'm paranoid about the potential chemicals.

Can't wait to try your stuff! As I said before I think, I came to Little Biggy above all to find people like you and the Druids and others :) that's all I need. But also exactly, each to their own - whatever blows your socks off ;)

I have a similar bias but it's partly based on experience. I'd never tried 'Cali' before joining LB and having tried some of the low and mid tier options from reputable vendors, I've given up on it as a bad lot. The lows really are poor quality and the mids I've had weren't much better. A lot of the imported bud has obviously been grown using PGRs (not what I want to consume) which makes it fall foul of the strict US standards and means it gets shipped over here to us by the ton. Lots of UK buyers seem willing to lap it up just because of the Cali tag but I prefer to stick to well-grown UK flower any day.

I've not tried the $120 for 3.5g top shelf stuff and I doubt I ever will. I see no reason to spend that on an eighth when the same money could get me 14g of homegrown fire

We're cut from the same cloth! I'd love to buy an import pack from TGD but if I can get a half I'll always take that option.

I think good weed is good weed regardless of where it was grown. For peace of mind I think if you know someone who grows from seed then they're usually a safe bet. There's a reason why British Bulldog sells out crops in no time at all for example. I much prefer 'springier' (is that a word?) buds to the rock solid nugs that are sometimes sold as Cali. Definitely want to avoid any PGR shit.

Thanks for the replies! Didn't have any for days and then came back to all this :)

Yeah this just confirms my instinct...I didn't even think of chemicals during the grow process (as I just assumed some kind of regulation completely naively). But I'm paranoid by precisely stuff like the PGR you both describe. And the lack of freshness of the bud or the rock-hard quality. Completely agree about growing from seed. For me that kind of thing is much more important than a fad or hype (not to mention the cost). Btw the Midzotics from the Pontiff were very nice, great flavour and highs (and only a bit more expensive) - but I also later got some UK grown Blue Dream from Green Cat which is fantastic. And some UK homegrown weed has been the best I've ever smoked (I've never smoked in the US itself). I'm sure there's a place for top shelf, real stuff, but it's not worth the cost to me, except as a curiosity - I'm def sticking almost exclusively to well-grown UK flower!

There is huge overproduction in California (and Canada are destroying literally thousands of tonnes!), so exports are easily and cheaply bought with the shipping cost and risk being the key factors. The fact that an estimated 60-70% of users have “gone back to the streets” citing quality and taxation as the main reasons suggest that mass production is not the nirvana it was intended to be.

I don’t think there is any doubt that decent UK growers can spank Cali mids and lows with their eyes shut and we are lucky here to have some class growers.

Top shelf Cali is a fine product indeed. Can it be faked?, oh yeah, you can buy hundreds of different branded bags online. Is it too expensive?..well, that depends on your budget. I’m happy I’ve bought the Cali packs I have- 100% genuine and a wonderful vape. A great treat for a special occasion but overall I prefer to spend time watching for the next release from our UK growers!👀👍

💯 spot on pollypuff20 👍
Low bottom shelf nowadays landing here only they call it Midz..

PP's 'Mimosadar'

Ping........ ping........ ping.... 😂😂😂😂

Cheers BB 🍻🇬🇧🐶

Brilliant!! 🤩

And completely true!

You will not escape the ping⚡️🍊👀🦊

Completely with you pollypuff20 :) thanks for the info, I didn't know that about the overproduction.

big up to the UK growers, I have my eyes on their next releases and can't wait!

I agree with many of the comments and the point of your post. I’ve had mostly negative experiences with imported bud, like someone else said it’s usually not that fresh and nearly always overpriced low/mid. Plus I see all the round up and poisons in the American food chain and dread to think what trickery can be used on weed production. I will always cluck for some proper uk homegrown, in my opinion it’s unbeatable. But each to their own. That being said I was having a crisis last night looking at THC’s new offering of the Lemon jars for $190. I sat for around half an hour debating if I should order or not, in the end I’ve decided to stay sober for abit longer. My last order on here didn’t come and I think it’s time to give myself a break.

Yeah exactly! The freshness aspect, the (scary US) chemicals, the cost...I'd rather try the real deal in the US itself someday. Proper UK homegrown all the way :)

Cali has become a poison chalice.
When people hear it they have the instant expectation that it will be of better quality than the UK flower they normally get.
It's such a vague term that in reality means absolutely nothing here.
So I think even if you have some unbelievable bud from West coast , it is best not to label it cali unless you want to, essentially (no offence)target it towards noobs here.

A lot of Cali isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

The bud coming from the UK atm is on par if not better then most of the mids and lower garbage that’s available now.

And then you have the time factor. For me especially it could take anywhere up to 2/3 weeks to get it delivered. Not so fresh when it comes & under p to get it sold.

Bigger fish may have a better experience.

That’s my 2cents on it

Good luck 👍🏻

6/10/23

Yeah that's what I was thinking instinctively - how could it be fresh? And justify the huge mark up.

Cheers

I’ll make it easy…

No it is not worth it!!!!!

While I’ve not wrote them all up, I’ve smoked some of the cheapest on here to the top packs (Cali and UK)and grown my own.

I’ve had cheap better than Cali and grows better than all. Does this mean one is better overall, does it fuxk. Waaaayyyyy too many variables and phenotypes at play…

The price per g is a joke and massively diminishing returns on flavour and potency!

Sometimes returning worse flavours or PERSONAL effects for that user!!!

The biggest take away id love the world of smokers to see, is:

The more that pay it the more that sell it and prices continue to go up!

I’d prefer recommending you all decent buds at half the price of Cali packs, EVERY TIME!’

even for treats, we just feed the system!!!!

These plants have roughly same life cycles and ain’t hard to grow (growing well is another matter) 😂

I'm with you - new to here but the UK Blue Dream I got from Green Cat has been lovely and a great price. And I'm (im)patiently waiting to try BB's and the Druids' stuff :) always on the lookout for some great UK bud!

And you're right too about all the variables (in my completely inexpert opinion, but that's what my grower friend has said)

Are you typically just paying for a taste ? Are effects no better do you think?

Iv never had the expensive stuff and I use bud as a lot I’m sure do for some issues I have. To the point I don’t give a shut about how it tastes, if it makes me feel ok I would smoke hey.

I think there is some correlation between flavour and the quality of the high, in general. But I am sure the obsession with Cali taste is overhype as well, and it's not a guarantee of a great high, or my first priority. Also, it for sure doesn't justify the huge mark up in any case. And especially for more medicinal use, as long as it alleviates your problem, that's the most important thing. Oh also, I've had some absolutely delicious UK bud.

The ‘Cali’ we get here is pants in comparison to the weed Americans smoke… I’ve never bought tops but can get mids for 3.5 for £30 locally.. anyways…
I went Cancun in May and got some ‘Cali’ from the Americans and the weed they’re smoking is nothing like what we get over here.

It tastes exactly as it smells, like most I can’t see how that’d be possible if it needed to travel over to the UK…

One thing though, this post has made me think I’ll even stop getting the mids I get and stick to getting some good UK on LB… someone made me want to try Pontiff - always thought prices were quite high but have seen a few peeps big them up now

Neither 🤮 Pure all the way

Get a bong smoke it pure or if you really want a joint professor herb tobacco replacement burns decent. After about 2 months of no baccy, high is nice and clean lasts longer, no urge to smoke for the want of nicotine and you will probably save money on bud/hash in the long run

American spirit rolling tobacco (its organic), get in sainsburys tesco ect.
perfect dryness and tastes very nice.
quite expensive tho, 22-23 quid for 30g.

Fantastic, happy trails Joe!😁👊❤️

Hand rolling baccy gone up from 22 November by 15 percent

American spirit yellow or blue? Which is the lightest

I've only ever found the blue, it's the best, smoked it for years now.
And fuck all the chemicals they inject into the non organic tobacco, they think we're so dumb.

Cigarette tobacco all the way. I've never got on with baccy. It doesn't taste the same, doesn't burn the same, and doesn't roll the same. I've always favoured B&H Gold.

Oh man , I hate using ciggy tobacco it's all horribly cut up and barky 🙁

Hence my very specific choice dude, this is with much research. You can pick out the spiky/barky bits, and the weird bits, then you have about 4/5ths of a fag for a 3 skin silver Rizla joint.

Fair enough, I have had this argument with my friends for like 10 years until they converted to rolling tobaco, but definitely each to their own 👍

The pressure and the way the tobacco compacts is so different. I've had members of touring reggae bands comment on the quality of my B&H joints, but if they'd given me baccy they'd be lucky to toke through! You can easily redistribute a tighter rolled ciggy joint so there are no choke points. Almost impossible with baccy as it wants to stay in one placed position.

I know what you mean but I get round it by drying the backy a bit and using the bottom the bag which is all unclumped and doesn't want to join together again, removing those sort of problems that I have had before that ruin a joint and stop it from smoking and then resin builds up and no airflow. But if you follow my method and try it next time, and I only use a tiny bit so it doesn't really have the potential to clump up really. But each to their own if you prefer the dry ciggy backy flavour

You're asking me to unlearn nearly 30 years of rolling (after using a rolling machine) dude! I'll just carry on horrifying the youth with my 'straights' (and ability to lick and rip it open in one, as it's not hard at all) and using 3 silver Rizlas. I'm not relearning how to roll in the dark by feel and chinks of light again. It took too long to perfect.

Lol fair enough , up to you, it's very easy to roll with backy infact I find it easier than with ciggy backy as the ciggy backy doesn't want to turn into a worm so it stays really airy in the joint and sometimes part of the point burn faster making it canoe with the ciggy backy burning quicker than the nice weed. But still I've had both joints that can taste nice, it's just personal preference at the end of the day.

Ah, now we hit the crux! I use fags as they don't form a worm. A worm stage makes it too tight to toke for me. I get to nearly that with the B&H, then leave some space in the end, then roll that between my fingers so it's loose (or, at least, not tonight) before smoking. It's definitely personal preference.

If you want it to smoke quick and be an easy toker I do think cig backy is better but if you want it to last longer and be smoother then use backy in my opinion.

I can't imagine how long you'd want it to last as a 3 small silver Rizla joint for me will last a good 20-30 minutes. How would I get things done if I switched and it lasted longer?!

I can totally see both sides here having used both fag and rolling tobacco for long periods in the past. Definitely pros and cons for both but I find myself siding with Rux. For me rolling tobacco was almost purely an economic choice, if you can afford a B&H or Marlboro gold then I’d suggest that.

But also, we should really be discussing the healthier alternatives (boring, I know - sorry). I use joints as a treat now. I vape in the mighty or bong hash through the week. Helps wi tolerance too I think.

Just roll it smaller if you want it to last less long lol simplicity at its best

Have you tried American Spirit (blue)? It's drier than most tobaccos as it doesn't use the same preservatives. Very clean tasting so mostly taste the bud. At least in my opinion.

I would recommend Manitou Green rolling tobacco available from Asda for £18 It’s fully organically grown with no additives and is a smooth smoke You do need a hydro stone to keep it from getting too dry American spirit is good but is not grown organically although has no additives added.

I will buy this tobacco, I have sort of giving up tobacco but can not give up joints totally for now, so will get this manitou green

Good choice 👍 it’s the only fully organic tobacco sold in uk American spirit and Pueblo are additive free but not organic As far as cigarettes are concerned apart from American spirit and Pueblo they contain many chemicals and additives

Went to Asda today for some manitou but they didn't have it, they only had American spirit and pueblo, so I left it and thought I'd try some other shop. my Asda has stopped selling it I think

Maybe they’re just out of stock Morrisons stock it as well as tobacconists Smoke King stock it online with 1.99 postage You will need a hydro stone too as the tobacco doesn’t contain preservatives so keeps it from getting to dry Anything else just DM me cheers

just weed only 💨

Rolling baccy, Pueblo Blue is additive free.

Great post, I got lost down a wormhole of genius sketches last night trying to pick my favourite and i couldnt so i figured id come back today and keep it easy.

Pete and Dud though 💜💚

An absolute classic and no mistake. Timeless :)
The 2 Ronnies wordplay was very special

you beat me to it lol

fork handles

Absolutely loved this. Completely unscripted...Two absolute satirical heavyweights and two of the finest comic minds to have ever lived....only wish Peter Cook was around longer to develop a long and fruitful working relationship with Chris Morris

Absolutely. So glad they got a chance to work together

Chris's Morris's own darkly disturbing piece of comedy genius 'Jam" produced its share of memorable moments....this absolutely being one...

Most of the clips i struggled to choose between when this was first posted had Chris Morris involved in some way, obviously Jam, Brass Eye and The Day today are all genius but hes had a hand in so many other great comedy moments, like as the narrator here...

Never twigged that he was on Big Train! Every day a learning day :)

Fantastic - just my sort of comedy! I missed this first time round. Big fan of Spaced, League, Big Train, etc. AND ambient music. Gonna listen to this series on headphones and there is a "remix" version (whaaa...?) of Jam called Jaaaam that looks good, too.

Found this compilation of the "Doctor" scenes. Not everyone's cup of tea but that's why I like it. byyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeee

There was a Chris Morris short which was pretty much a precursor to Jam .
My Wrongs 8245-8259 and 117 ...well worth a look

100% brilliant acting

Just tickles me does this.

Looking back now, Mitchell and Webb did do some bloody good sketches...

Classic - Four Yorkshire men Monty Python.

Beat me to it! Mind you I have just got off from a 28 hour shift that started tomorrow and hasn't even begun yet, working myself to the bone... all before 7am.

Reagan mastermind

hartman was a genius

Still very much missed...especially in The Simpsons

Oh my days. How did I forget this?

Brilliant, disturbingly hilarious nightmare fuel :)

Association Football

That be this one ...more classic Enfield :)

One of my favourites.

Hey Good Stuff, hope you're well! Love the shop! Would really like to try some of neros Fresh Frozen Orange Sherbet, Purple Punch Filtered x3 and Rainbow Beltz Filtered x3. Thoroughly enjoying the lemon cookies by the way, so strong and tasty, yum!!

Theres more on the way :))

I'd like to try the Rainbow Beltz and the Blue Dream.

Would love any of the following.
High Octane
Pink Panties
Rainbow Belts
Dosido x Sherbet
Nerdz bubble
Motorbreath dry
Gelato 41
Black Domina

Will get them sent over ASAP

Pink panties is now live :)

And what a fantastic smoke it is. Wow. Was my last joint of the night last night and it wiped me out in the best way. Great product and excellent service. Thanks, I'll be back for more!

Thank you 🙏🏽

High octane and motor breath.
I’ve never seen a list of things I want quite so much in a long time🤣

Gelato 41 is gorgeous for the money.
I’m gonna collect the rest for definite.

So happy to hear this.
I’m going to be hitting you up end of month.

Bigger weights 🇲🇦 better prices 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Dm me :)

Maybe some filtered eggs??

Theyre already on the way bro, thats the next drop

Geezer your basically selling neros sloppy 2nds , that have been lying there for over 2 years , helmet

I am nero 🤦🏽 Best hash on LB. 🫡

Your not Nero you helmet your some mushroom who’s getting his hash sent over from Spain in the post you idiot 2 year old hash at best aswell geezer far from the best hash on lb all Nero hash is just basic hash over in Barca helmet

I am him and he is me. 😘

So basically you can teleport to 2 different countries hats off

Signed 1st class please

Atm most are arriving next day 1st class. I post from a central city, my stuff lands quickly, unless you're rural, it may take upto 3 day.

Concentrates at nice prices definitely

On it

Any chance of ya sending to Ireland?

UK only, sorry. Ireland is a mess to send to.

Hey BB, order in!
The main comment from me is a huge thanks regarding your pricing. From my first order to this one you’ve maintained a ridiculously high quality to price ratio and it’s very much appreciated. You have a top reputation on here and could have crept up your prices and therefore profits over the years. The fact that you haven’t, and still provide what you do at an affordable rate is a clear indictment of your character.
I feel like I’ve robbed you every time your packages drop, kudos to you BB 🙏🏻

Thanks so much buddy that really means a lot 🙏

The prices have gone up slightly from the last crop, only by a few bucks, mostly because my electricity bill nearly made me cry 😭 Even with the LEDs it's still a staggering increase in energy costs to run the grow space.

However, we're all struggling a bit at the moment so if I take a bit of a drop in profit margin that's not the end of the world. I'm lucky enough as a grower to be able to absorb some of the expense and still make a reasonable profit so I'm happy with that.

I read on a thread somewhere on here that we growers all bypass the electricity so the energy crisis doesn't affect us. Well I can assure whoever that was, that if my Mrs caught me monkeying about with our leccy meter I'd be out living in the shed, if I hadn't already electrocuted myself in the process! 😂

I do OK, that's enough for me.

I'm looking to get a slightly bigger setup sorted next year so that should hopefully pay off in the long run.

Anyway, thanks again buddy for your kind words and your custom over the years. It really is much appreciated. 🙏

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

ALL CAPS

Have to agree on the pricing, when you see the amount of time, effort and care that's gone into the frankly next level of stealth alone.

💜💚👊🏻

Do you like my profile pic too?
It's RR DOOM, also all caps!

Where do flies go in the winter and why do you never see baby pigeons?🤔

(You did say ‘any’ questions yeah? 🤭

Welcome Back👍

I always liked the one from Stand By Me;

"Alright, alright, Mickey's a mouse, Donald's a duck, Pluto's a dog. What's Goofy?"

Cheers BB 😂🐶🦆👍

You have really never seen a baby pigeon. Ugle things in the nest but cute once out and flying.

What’s next. No chance can your gear be 2.0 also. That would be outrageous based on previous 🤯🤯🤯🤯

How long
And we want weed porn

Sorry that’s more orders than questions or comment.

Hi BB

Can you please inform all Da bigga’s of what’s next on BB menu (youth speech apparently)

Any chance of a best guess on the next listing?

Please please please post some photos in the comments if you have time 👌

Cheers 🐾

Here's some of the Premium after the final trim.

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

I know that it says premium but it looks premium AAA

As always a great short back and sides on they bad boys 😁😁😁

Don't you mean PREMIUM FIRE AAAAAAA++++++++🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Nah, not my kind of marketing. It's lovely weed though. 👍 Gets you nice and toasted. 👌

Cheers BB 😊🍻

😂

Na that would just be under playing it (this is speculation until tried)

Premium inferno

You can only consume it if you have this on lol

BB inferno future#1 merch

I think Ricky in Trailer Park Boys wears something like that doesn't he? Not sure if you've seen the programme?

I'm going on Google...

Cheers BB

Edit HAHA Yeaahhh my memory still works! Pic linked above.

I can smell that from over here 😮‍💨

When can I order bb 😎

Closeup of bud. Phone camera really doesn't do it justice but you get the jist 🤣

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

😍😍😍😍😍

Looking good 💨💨💨💨