and we think identity politics is bad now

There's a 1989 Japanese horror film called Tetsuo that ties in with this description. It's about a chap who starts grafting pieces of metal onto his body. Freaky fucked-up stuff.

I know it well! Great movie.

It's a bit vague if you ask me because it means *everything* that comes after us: AI, cyborgs, augmented humans and god knows what else. I prefer "trans-humanism" which implies people transcending the human body.

Post Humanism means information tech based evolution whereas transhumanism means the "everything"

If an individual has a cranial implant to reduce epileptic fits, have they entered a Post Humanist phase?

Transcending the human body?
I believe that this is called Death.

version 1 is a little more humble than that, but hell if you're into magnets

*When* is post humanism?

That's a lot like the question "When is the Singularity?" the moment that artificial intelligence passes humans'. A lot of people laughed at Kurzweil's predictions for this happening in the 2020s, but with all the progress in the last year and the exponential curve this is following he might be right.

It might be easier to say its coming than it's here. If you work as an uber driver or a stock trader you are already taking orders from an a.i. entity much smarter than you.

One word - Skynet.

this

Post humanism hahah... maybe parasitism? As a species we are already doing it.
Btw. Im down only for analogue transhumanism in any case.

but brain-mix tapes are going to be a pain this way

what is analogue transhumanism?

In essence it is man being puppeted by Satan into trying to eradicate God. To replace God with a counterfeit. It is the attempt at justifying what was done in the Garden of Eden and fulfilling Satans promise that 'ye will be as Gods'.

I would argue we are already in a post-humanist world, and have been for some time, with the evolution of media, pointedly the internet, on group mentality, opinion and aligning of thought. All through intense, persistent and unrelenting social pressure, various political propagandas and essentially, marketing.

The coagulation of collective conscious intentions via the internet, dispersing opinion, values and philosophies, dispenses of the opinion forming skills of those exposed to it more and more as generations turn over. This has happened in stages since the introduction of the web and I believe can be prevalently seen in the west. In particular, in political states which lean more towards capitalism, as this effectively 'supercharges' the evolution of these mass influences.

We as humans are physically not really evolving any more, Darwinism isn't exactly hitting the spot for us, take a walk through any small town centre and I'm sure you'll find it hard to disagree (We do still hold the record as the best long distance land animal though if I'm not mistaken). We do however evolve behaviourally at an astronomical scale when compared to other species.

Whether the invocation of an effective 'hive mind' on our selves causes us to enter a state of 'post' humanism is open to debate of course, but i think on the Richter scale of change it scores rather high.

Much like me, I am also very high.

take off i get it! do you need to do anything to participate or just die and wait?

if you are happy with a transporter room kind of version then sure, but did we tell you about your premium storage options?

Fantastic.

Great idea. Better stay away from singularities (black holes) though. Small matter of your residual info on the event horizon sputtering away like radio static thanks to Hawking radiation.

Hate it when that happens :)

Youre surely a bigga I'd like to smoke with

If this is possible then it's the kind of thing another intelligence may come up with already. Maybe we are part of such a process ...
{stoned thouhht}

You know this isnt totally crazy, the cost of putting a head into space is coming down and then the cold storage is free for a real long time.

It iits infinite it's not youth anymore.

How we can finally win the fight against aging @TEDxMünchen

we can finally get to what he is supposed to be talking at around 5:40

I'll take the blue pill, plug me in already

Never

Wheres the logic to that spock?

Because not everyone will have the money for it. The rich will use it and put a price on it to make it unavailable for us normal people. The rich will the feel superior after a drug like that and we all remember what happened in the world of star trek. The eugenics war is something that will unfortunately happen on this planet one day because of them sort of drugs. I must point out I'm not against this sort of thing as science is not good or evil it's how it's used but this sort of thing is are downfall.

Surely this is an issue but most innovations are available to the rich first. What would you think of a world without cars, air travel or computers? Let the rich be our guinea pigs.

That said yeah, downfall for sure.

Socialism makes sense or something to insure diversity because if we have douches getting thawed 1st they might not want to thaw the rest of us after.

Yeah it's an issue with most things but when it comes to life changing things like this it's a complete game changer.

TLDR the brain evolved to handle more connections with big breakthroughs occurring when people learned to communicate between multitudes and generations.

Now we need to do the same thing with AI or it will get smart so fast that we won't have anything in common with it. Elon Musks wants to create a faster machine/mind interface to do this before we run out of time.

no doubt but oh if we could learn to communicate with each other along the way

Good Summary

This will be a good bit of news for people with golden har or treacher Collins syndrome. It’s bloody amazing what they can do for people with facial defects now.

this + a.i. and what else matters?

Can't say I see a lot of downside with this one.

the problem i see is that it's a trust based system and you are trusting people selling an afterlife. that doesn't bring us much further than religious belief in life after death.

a quasi religious custodian would be optimal

I love this opening:

You’re on an airplane when you hear a loud sound and things start violently shaking. A minute later, the captain comes on the speaker and says:

There’s been an explosion in the engine, and the plane is going to crash in 15 minutes. There’s no chance of survival. There is a potential way out—the plane happens to be transferring a shipment of parachutes, and anyone who would like to use one to escape the plane may do so. But I must warn you—the parachutes are experimental and completely untested, with no guarantee to work. We also have no idea what the terrain will be like down below. Please line up in the aisle if you’d like a parachute, and the flight attendants will give you one, show you how to use it and usher you to the emergency exit where you can jump. Those who choose not to take that option, please remain in your seat—this will be over soon, and you will feel no pain.

What would you do?

I wonder if you’re allowed to board a commercial plane wearing a parachute. ‘The parachute and a mask’

I’m just covering all angles. ;)

Here's a parachute that definitely doesn't work. They cost you all the money you intended to pass on, then will probably go on to cost your offspring.

We'll try our best come up with a method to make it work before you hit the ground.

Form an orderly queue.

if it's a future without the small minded ill take any chance they give me

No doubt you’re right Doc.
All of histories great and revolutionary thinkers faced with the moment of ultimate transcendence would choose the same: hiding in a freezer clinging desperately to their privilege.

I’d rather see what’s next than be consigned to eternity on a planetary corpse with the people who killed it.

I'm going into space when I die :)

Seems you're off to a great start :)

relax youre around for several more series

No way, decaying in the ground is what the elders tell us!

Howd that one work out for ya elders?

50/50

Well at least the machines don't tell us what to do with our free time, like what we watch or read.

Big talk, maybe a few good ideas here though

Lol the bald guy is such a mad scientist cliche

Wait a second how does a head live without *any* body during the procedure?

Chill, dude, "Cooling the brain can delay damage for up to an hour—just enough time, perhaps, to transplant a head" :)

Just enough time to image your brain and send it off to the ad network.

Huh that was a lot less creepy than I reckoned

My gran died a couple of years ago and one of the biggest regrets I have is that I didn't talk with her about her life. My advice is spend as much time with her as possible, talk to her, learn about her (write things down if you need to) - and then keep her in your memories. Pass on your knowledge of her to the next generation. That is basically as close to immortality most of us get.

Exactly this! My gran died in 2014, one year shy of 100. She had seen a lot in her life, being born during World War One. I cherish the chats that we had. As I get older, I realise how privileged I was to have known her. Not only because of who she was but because she was born in another era and her stories and memories were real life history from a very different world to our own.

Record her talking about her life and memories, oral history vcan be an amazing gateway into the past.

I might be too old fashioned, but since you're talking about your grandma, that might not be a bad thing. Have you asked her how she feels about death? She might not want to be frozen, or otherwise kept from death. I've had to deal with death way too much recently. It's horrible, and my heart goes out to you. But sometimes dying people see loved ones who are already dead. Real, or imagined, I won't know for sure until I take that last trip. I've started to feel very selfish for keeping my sister on life support as long as I did. Personally, I really believe that death is just a transition. Regardless, I think spending as much time with her as you can, and even recording conversations with her would be a good thing. Whatever you choose, I wish you both well.

ice, ice baby

One grandma on the rocks, extra sweet.

Plastication may very well be ready within 5 years and it looks not only better than cryonics but also free of any ties to discredited white rappers.

Wait you're gonna go with "plastication" because you think it has less embarrassing analogies than freezing?

Does she want to be preserved? This can be a really big deal for her legacy and may freak out her family, it takes some fortitude to get past that.

this. I have a very hard time even talking with people about this basically they think it's a conceit to even consider it.

Make sure she is properly cured and then put in air tight jar.

Sounds good to we!

Yeah I actually think one of those guys is working customer service for my cable company.

Immortality with Alexa - now that's Hell.

Fuck that