Thanks for the love mate look forward to dealing with you again

on the 30th of september, you responded to me saying 'I'm not gonna lie to you I missed this message which is my bad I'm not ignoring you we are just very busy... Nevertheless we will make sure your order goes out today to YOU and will throw in a couple extra bits' all of which i appreciate. however it is not my fault that i did not receive the order. i responded on the 7th of october, 'Hi, I've just seen these messages, were these sent out as I've moved address and wasn't expecting to receive them at all,' to which you sent royal mail tracking info. tracking info does not help if it was sent to the wrong address, and its not my fault that you didnt check before resending. i then told you i would see if i could reorganise redelivery, which i did attempt, however ROYAL MAIL DID NOT COMPLETE THIS, AND TRACKING SAYS IT WAS SENT BACK TO YOU. you have not responded to me since the 26th of October which is why i have now had to raise a late dispute.

Brother you messaged us 1 hours ago and we replied 🤣

messaged 2 days ago asking for tracking but no bother if you missed it over the weekend. thanks for getting back to me

Any more hashes coming in stock

Just waiting on some photos.

Can you confirm if mine was shipped please?

Yes mate you was one of the 6 unfortunately

Appreciate your honesty! That goes along way :)

Whenever I hear the words synthetic cannabinoids I think of spice and that scares the hell out of me.

I can imagine it does for alot of people but it's not even comparable to spice. Spice can be made from any old chemicals and THC-O can only be made from hemp or cbd isolate its only considered synthetic due to thc-o not being found naturally

I’m getting some at end of month.
Will do a review.

The guys upfront about what's for sale, let the punters make up their own mind. Don't understand the negativity?

Exactly there alot of vendors who add d8 into their vapes and don't even tell you or explain that it's an analog of thc too just like thc-o is. Atleast we are 100% transparent about what we sell and what goes into our products that's alot more then you'll get from some. We send all our products of for testing when we change suppliers so we know we are getting what we are paying for and we even encourage our skeptical customers to do the same.

we would rather educate someone then let them make a decision rather then force the sale down their throat and tell them to just try for themselves

I understand the reason for the skepticism on a synthetic.
But... the vendor is being as transparent as possible about it.
There's been plenty of d10 vapes and d8 listed on here in the past.
And whilst it's not a product I would be interested in, I don't really see the issue with the listing if there is honesty along with it. It's what makes this place kind of interesting.
Plus, the thread here will be attached to the listing at the bottom and biggas can see this thread for themselves.

But surely we all know this is just a chemical legal loophole to bring cannabis like highs to non legal US States?…and that hardly makes it a good thing right?

Synthetic cannabis is already illegal in the UK…so yeah, I really can’t answer your question as to why anyone would buy this?

depends on your perception i guess, again i get the stigma but someone has to start changing it .everyone has their own needs and wants if it doesnt serve anything to you then dont buy it i guess. its been highly popular amongst my regulars, i make everything as clear as possible about my products its simply up to the individuals to make an informed decision

I too am sceptical of the d8/HHC/thco stuff

So I have tried the first too to see

And spice many yearsago

Not the same, no where near the same

While I understand there are concerns regarding the long term effects of these lesser noids that are now coming to the forefront of things but I appreciate you listing them as they are and sticking your head clearly above the parapet when doing so.

https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/synthetic-cannabinoids/

The main issue her Polly is people are confused over what a synthetic cannabinoid is Vs a naturally occurring noid that is then put through a chemical process to become another naturally occurring lesser cannabinoid

One is obtained from hemp/cannabis and then refined to the end noid , the other is powders mixed up somewhere and introduced to a carrier substance

Did some gummies at 0.5ml, potent stuff.

Okay, let me analyse this statement:

'DOES THIS GET YOU HIGH ?

yes, yes it does. It's effects are very similar to delta 9, but because it binds more tightly to the body’s cannabinoid receptors than the other THC forms, THC-O is more intoxicating than delta 8, delta 10 many people claim they get even higher then when they consume delta 9 distillate.'

So it's distinct from D9, and isn't as strong, despite the apparent difference in binding properties, as only 'many people claim they get even higher than when they consume D9 distilate'. So not a majority, just 'many'. Is this a reason to try out a designer drug which presumably breaks down to an analogue of D9? There seems to be a lot of similar non-standard products on offer in your listings, and I'd be extremely wary about ingesting these personally.

maybe it was a poor choice of wording, we choose to say 'many' as every individual has a different experience when it comes to edibles i don't want people to be saying oh this is weaker when you said its not, just because they have had a bunch of edibles that week and blasted their tolerance. on this site there is every level of stoner so we try to be as educational as we can without causing misinterpretations.

THC-O itself is an analog of THC, your body is what breaks down the chain to THC and your body filters out the 'o' part to put it simply.

we know that this whole side of cannabis currently holds a stigma here in the UK understandably why with our history of spice here but this isn't the same thing. It's booming industry in the states, you can find hhc vapes d8 vapes d10 vapes in most gas stations and vape shops out there.

this goes for all customers if you are unsure about our products we wont force you to buy them message us we will try to help, we try to give as much education as we can but we the most part is on the customers own research and contemplation

Please, don't put it simply as I'm intrigued, and prepared to be proven wrong. I can't find a lot of information online but I'm assuming this is methylation of some analogous THC molecule which may make it occupy the binding site longer and prolong effects?

It's still synthetic though, and I always think of RoboCop 2 with the production of synthetics. I hadn't even thought of spice, as all of those regular users look like smack heads, but promotion of HHC, D8 and D10 makes me concerned about any other listed products.

The promotion of HHC, D8 and D10 means that the vendor isn't trying to disguise the origin or type of cannabinoids they are selling so I'm not really sure why you think that's a red flag

And could you please explain for us lesser mortals why the coa you would walk away from?

Thanks 👍

here is the test results incase you are curious about that

Before I comment further, do you understand what this lab report states, or do you simply have a report from a lab?

im unsure what you mean. we sent our product of for testing and this is the what returned. a certificate of analysis stating the individual cannabinoid values

I mean you don't understand the report. It's predominantly some chemically altered D8 to D8-O, and you don't understand that the certificate states exactly that, and anyone with any smoking and scientific background would look at that and laugh, and then never order.

Caveat Emptor.

you know that you make thc-o by adding acetic anhydride to delta 8 thc right

Oh, I didn't. So it's entirely made from D8? I'd never buy that and would advise anyone with any sense not to either. Synthetic drugs for 1/4 of the price of D9? Yeah, not only am I wary but everyone else should be too. If it's entirely D8, where did that D9-O come from, with 0% D9?

It depends on the starting material. Even hemp has some d9 which will be aceylated to d9 thc-o. If you used high THC buds you’d end up with more d9 thc 0 and trace d8 thc 0. I agree I personally prefer to stick with naturally occurring cannabinoids but there may be certain situations where people can’t for one reason or the other, atleast it’s labelled as what it is so people can make their own choice. I mean the marketing wouldn’t exactly get past the FDA but they are trying lol

when we asked the lab they could only speculate during the distillation process some thc-a might have been present and might have decarbed to d9 during the process

thanks for the input been an interesting conversation

Interesting. I'm always up for discussion, and that often leads to purchases. I'm sure the lab is fully GMP compliant...

So what's it very specifically altered to biologically?

to my understanding thc-o binds differently with the cb1 receptor but the same as d9 for the cb2 receptor, This is because the acetic anhydride version of THC has a higher bioavailability so is absorbed with more pairs then traditional thc creating a stronger effects

Appreciate this. I’ve been looking at these alt-noids lately. The only thing that concerns me is acetic anhydride, a high-inflammable liquid used to make fibers, plastics, pharmaceuticals, dyes, and explosives.

I need to do some more research into this. But I would be wary of inhaling anything made with it. It’s pretty nasty stuff. Ketene gas. Which literally destroys your lungs. Stuff like that.

Can’t see it being particularly harmful if made into edibles though.

This is exactly why we only recommend it for edibles as long term vape exposure can cause irritation of the lungs

It’s definitely something to reiterate as I’ve seen some THCO carts on sale. Not here. But “elsewhere”. You know. Might be tempting. It’s a loophole.

So. Warning. Etc.

Here’s I guess where I’m coming from - and I’ve done some research:

Vaping never was 100% safe. There is evidence to suggest that vaping bud is comparatively safer than smoking it. IE. It’s not carcinogenic. Whereas. Smoking anything. Is.

But it’s trickier to make an educated guess with these new compounds.

I’d educatedly, politely, genuinely and with the utmost respect for the good people of this good place, err on the side of:

Don’t, whatever the fucking fuck you do. Do. Not. Put this acetate shit in a cart and vape blinkers, or whatever it is that these idiots do.

The last thing we need. Is more people in hospital because of cannabis.

You’d be better off vaping spice. Genuinely.

I started vaping nicotine about 15 years ago. Vaping nicotine is not like vaping THC.

But it has given me a keen understanding of what is good to vape. And what’s notsa-good ta’.

Aaand we vaped fuck out of everything. Back in the day. Wild West. Look up “genesis atomiser” on Google.

I apologise for that rabbit hole.

For a start. Nicotine is water based.

So when you vape nicotine. Apart from the food flavourings. Compared to inhaling air. It’s risky. But compared to inhaling carbon-infused smoke. Literally putting your head over a bonfire. And inhaling. It’s by order of magnitude safer to vape nicotine than smoke it.

But. These THC acetate type things? We know how nicotine is extracted. It’s pointless trying to black-market it really. As it’s really cheap to get.

Is the concentrate you are getting, actually, what you are getting?

No-one knows

Vaping on distillate

No-one knows. It’s a risk I took 15 years ago when I started vaping, to give up smoking.

It’s probably meant I’m not dead now.

It’s exactly the same Wild West. And I’m still here.

So it’s all. Absolutely at your own risk. Only. I would suggest that the water-based end product of vaping nicotine is going to fundamentally be easier for the body to absorb than the oil-based nature of THC products.

It’s kind of a fundamental. Prolonged periods of THC oils in the lungs?

No-one knows.

No-one died. 1987.. No-one died.. 1988 .. No-one died.

✌🏻

...1989 there was the incident with the pigeon.

Lest we forget. In 1980. Some. One. Died.

Just get your head around this one, then THCa, which is legal until it is combusted, and then it turns to THC, so in its temperature-controlled state, it is entirely legal as it is under 0.3 ml of THC content.

American Farm hemp loopholes and is also legal in Europe.

Many scientific discoveries about the various cannabinoids have only been recently discovered in the last few years, so our knowledge is gaining an even better understanding of this herb and its wonders!

Welcome to LB guys👋- have a blast!

thanks! looking forward to it

Welcome to LB good luck 💜💚👊🏻

Thank you mate ❤️loving the welcome

Welcome to LB! Good luck with the store 😊

Thank you look forward to your custom

hey mate welcome

Thanks mate check out our first listing it just went live

Hi and welcome
Will you be offering any live resin carts/vapes?

Yes mate by the end of the month- start of next will have a huge selection of full spectrum products

Looking forward to it 🙏

Welcome to LB! Good luck with the store 😊

cheers nfused 👍👍 ... top value promo ... count me in on 100g 😎😎

jus a quick follow up ... 100g cannabiz style ordered, delivered in 2 days 👍👍 ... the hash is excellent for this price, really good strength 😎😎

we have decided to extend this sale for another week to welcome back our tyson 1g distillate vapes back onto the site

2 D9 vapes for 55$ whats not to love

I'm gonna have christmas bundles available soon