The other corner screen of green. Starting to smell strong in here

Dunno about sea of green more like a fucking ocean of green there mate 😳

Either ways work for me :)

It’s fantastic and big 😎

Such a colour on them you should be proud 🦚 fair play for set up, looks excellent 👌

Looking gorgeous Rozzy..interesting you're going with coco I've been researching like mad before I give it a go in the new year, I may bend your ear you've clearly got the knack

Hey, sorry for replying so late, I don't know I missed/didn't reply to previous messages.

Yeah man, coco is a bit of a tricky one to learn compared to soil but absolutely worth it... the results for me have been fantastic when everything's done right. I've made more than a few mistakes I'll be honest, but those are easily avoided with the right knowledge and planning :)
If you ever fancy a chat about coco growing or if you're curious about anything please just send a message, I'm always happy to chat... especially about weed and indoor gardening! I'll never claim to be an expert but I've picked up a thing or 2 over the years

(also I'm using fabric pots, apologies to Lee for somehow missing the reply)

100% mate will definitely touch base when the time comes. Have some work and £ to do, getting my environment right before any moves. Been focusing mainly on run-off tests, EC and PH management tbh as they are new to me having only ever tried soil. I like the idea of full control of the root system and what goes in vs what comes out, and seen very good reviews and journals once you get the right light intensity

Sounds good! Yeah, it's great to be able to control it like hydro but with less risk of flooding the place 🤣 like you say it's just about getting that environment and light intensity dialled in

One of the best things about coco imo is that the plants give you REALLY quick feedback compared to soil... literally within hours of feeding they can start telling you if something's gone a bit wrong. EC, PPM and pH are obviously really important, but coco makes it far easier to learn to "read" the plants

What pot type your using?
Looking good

I'll let the grower answer themselves but can say the felt/fabric pots are highly rated by many a coco gardener

Can't wait 💪

Looking forward to it.

What breeders sour diesel is this?

Good question but not sure, they came as cuttings

Thanks for replying when its ready I'll grab some mate looks nice.

Looking healthy with those giant leaves

Beautiful man! Mine are a week or so away from getting flipped but if they end up looking anything like this I'll be happy af! Happy growing! 💚

Love to see them so happy and healthy. Can't wait for the results :)

There will be some much snow this winter ❄️❄️

Happy growing mate. I love using these foam ties, they are cheap and make 'low stress training' really easy. I usually trim the foam to pin the stems down with them early on and then use them as spreader bars between stems later in the grow to keep airflow between buds.
Good luck mate 👍

Nice idea with foam.

I normally have green garden wire embedded in my plants. They grow over it and form a huge knuckle

Yeah its great stuff, you can buy it on a roll too, if you spiral it round a stem you can pretty much free form them

Good stuff, I like that idea! And those are some really healthy looking plants!

Thank you! I'm definitely gonna do a bit of LST on these and wasn't sure how to go about it so that's a huge help :)
I really appreciate that man!

If your going to pinch off the head do it at 3rd, 4th node. I've had great success with it. Or just pull the fan leaves off to let the light in. Are they 30 litre pots??

Thanks for the tip! The pots are only about 3 gallons but I've grown some monsters in 3 gals before! The grow before last (grapefruit autos) were out of control by mid flower

Very good.

Good luck and I will enjoy the updates on how it goes

Hey boss,
I just want to drop my 2p here as I have grown this exact auto strain from RQS. If you take my advise you should swap this out to a better strain before you put too much effort into it, just to be let down by the results at end like I was.
Autos have much less potential for yield and I ran several auto strains when I started out growing none of which tasted up to today's standards.
I would advise against growing from seed as a beginner because they are a hit and miss. If you heard the term pheno hunting before it refers to growing a number of plants of the same strain from seeds and taking cuttings labelling them and at the end of the grow they choose the best pheno to keep and clone for consistent good quality.
If you insist on keeping the autos I would suggest you start low stress training as soon as you can because time is limited with them.
Once it starts to get bigger strip down all the lower sites so the plant will put all her energy into the tops, this way I got nice looking results but I was always dissapointed with how they smoke. Once I got hold of some fire cuttings my whole game changed for the best :)
Either ways best of luck and feel free to reach out if need any help with growing.

Thanks for the advice and the kind words man! They seem to be doing pretty well so far so I'm gonna keep them going, I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate some more oldschool genetics and if the bud isn't up to par it'll be priced accordingly. The plants aren't quite in flower yet but they're really healthy and seem to be adapting well to the environment so I'm just interested to see where they can go. Next run will probably involve a pheno hunt so I'm a lot more excited for that!

If you're into old school genetics , check out The Real Seed Company . They do all sorts of land race from around the world and a few Western classics too . Iv'e grown a couple .The best so far was the Afghan90. The flowers were lighter and leafier than modern varieties , but the skunkyness really lingered in an old school kinda way .

Thank you man! I'll keep them in mind, I love the old-school skunky buds

There's no question they will adopt and flower with nice looking buds like all autoflowers. Try to run a non auto of the same strain and see the difference in flavour and effects.
Autos are like a watered down versions of the original strains having the ruderails genetics added to them to make their life cycle fixed.
You will be shocked how much more you can get out of "normal" plants with your setup. :)

Yeah, I get you there, but in all fairness I've had better results from autos than photos so far. It could just be that I've only been growing a year though. The mangos from the last crop were photos and I think down to my own mistake they started flowering too early and didn't get very tall. The bud is pretty nice but honestly not the best I've grown. The best I've done so far has been an auto (choc orange by dr krippling) and honestly it was up there with the best I've had in my life! But the next run will definitely be photos just so I can pheno hunt and get some consistency going. Growing from seed in general has been a bit hit and miss so far

It is for sure a bit of a hit and miss and also some seedbanks are better than others. I wasn't much impressed with RQS but had few from the US with exeptional results.
With regulars you get more control and can veg one plant to fill up your space before flipping to flower. Cleaning the lower sites that get small to no light will give you better tops in both cases tho.

This is them at 22 days from sprout and they seem to be loving life! No signs of any flowering or any major stretch yet so that's a positive sign! It means they can get a lil bit more height before the actual stretch and hopefully fill the canopy up

All looking healthy there mate, are you just letting them go straight up or have you got any other plans for them?

I'm just gonna let them go straight up, tuck some leaves so the branches/nodes can get good light and separate the bud sites with a trellis net before any buds actually grow. Also gonna cut the really low down branches that'd grow crappy buds. The plan was to do some LST and use the trellis net early on but I figured I'll let them do their thing and get some height before I mess with them too much 😅

At that size I would be tempted to nip out the tips and aim for a more even canopy.
If you do decide to top autos then never cut them just gently part the top and knock the tip out with your fingers, if you do it right the plant won't notice anything has happened and they will bush out big time, losing the main kola gives you the benefit of being able to get the light closer to the canopy.
Whatever you decide to do keep us posted they are looking happy and healthy 👍

looks great.

Good luck on the latest journey Rozzy

Good luck! I've heard you can grow NL outside in the southern parts of the UK. Anyone else heard such rumours?

All plants will grow in the uk during the right time of the year.

Gorilla grows using autos can do 2 crops a season, 3 if they are under cover and get good sun

I've heard similar rumours about some oldschool strains, I don't think NL specifically but there's a lot of strains that people say do really well in the UK climate... I grew a solo strawbnana plant outdoors in 2022 and was genuinely shocked at how well it did

I will put 6-9 autos in that tent mate. 3 autos it’s not enough for that space you could have much better yield in same time.

I really appreciate the advice but autos just seem to get out of control for me! I think it may be something to do with being in coco and also maybe because I keep feeding veg nutes during early stretch (until bud sites are really forming), OR possibly because I've been lucky with genetics, but I tried running 5 autos in there before and sadly had to kill 2 of them due to sheer size. This pic is the canopy with 3 grapefruit autos in it (grow before last) and that wasn't even the buds at full size!

Nice

Cheeky trichome shot 🤤

Yum. Looking forward to this dropping. See you mid December!

Awwwwwwww Fifi ❤️❤️❤️❤️……there is genuinely nobody else like you on LB- Please stay with us🙏🏽….and post MORE OFTEN 😘🥰😘

Oh my God! 😵 thank you SO much Polly!

Well, definitely not tripping now, and still think the same :))) And here is a super, SUPER  special thing for you, with 'Puff', in it :))) .... ( but not because I'm hoping you'll lay puffer fish eggs for me, haha, don't worry, but just because - girl, boy, fraggle or sandperson, I don't know,  but you're super special  :)))


https://youtu.be/B91tozyQs9M?si=TSBkqLfDDoKN5OyY


I don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon, haha. To quote you, Big Roo,  ( big up ☺️ ), I read this on your manifesto thing -"I love this place, it feels like home" - Really resonated with me. Bit cringe-ely up close and personal, but I'm going to say it anyway - I had parents who couldn't accept that their child had learning difficulties, and moved me from school to school to school during primary /middle school. All this did was make me feel that I didn't fit in or belong anywhere, and as is often the case with stuff  that happens during such formative years, these belief systems tend to become hardwired as the blueprint for how the rest of your years will pan out. I've Always struggled with feeling like the perpetual outsider, but not here :))) even on other forums I've been on, say, about my pets, I'd go on them for a few months, and as soon as someone was mean or critical I'd peg it. But on here I have actually been called ridiculous, fake, desperate, attention seeking and honestly I think most of those things are probably true, but when I've come on here, out of my tree tripping my face off and bang on about how much I love this place and my friends here, I totally mean it, and the 'fake', bit definitely isn't true :) And normally hearing stuff like that I'd be gone , lickety - split, but because I know so much that I have some seriously good, REAL friends here, it's not so hard to weather the horrible stuff :))) and I love it here, even though I'm very aware that this place is definitely not all sweetness and light, and let's face it, a place that you really do need to be super cautious in, I've made friends for the first time in a long time, and I love it so much. And thank you Polly for being a big part of why LB feels like a soft spot to land for me :))) °•♡•°🌷🌷🌷

Wow...that little fish digs 24 hours a day for a week to build the "most complex and perfect" construction in nature and all for love huh?.....gotta love da puff! lol!

I do know what you mean about LB. Stay here long enough and you pick up all kinds of flack- I've had the weirdest of threats and hate over the years but its a tight little community who contribute and really watch out for each other. The haters simply don't win. We do...

I'm so glad you've stayed with us (heart heart heart- no emojis on this keyboard lol) xxxxx

💕🌈°•♡•°🌷🌷🌷

Who doesn't adore Polly, even if they just scratch their surface. That's 100% not a question, hence the lack of question mark.

I feel Polly needs to trip more to feel the universal love for themselves though...

YEAAAHH!!! Trip report, Polly!!! Go on!!!

Its crazy...I've got the Psychonaut gear in the fridge - its been there for months. They've talked me through it and we all know what experts they are, B0W13 said he'd trip with me, Ruxxy cajoles/encourages me all the time...and yet still I haven't tried it. One bad trip on a blotter when I was a kid has ruined me lol....but there's still time...ooooooh....

Polly is a legend and I adore them 🐰❤️🦊

It’s been a few years now my fluffy friend 🦊♥️🐰

The true story of the Rabb1t and fox explains how life can be better when we make friends.

Friends make our lives happier in many ways. Also, showing mercy and sympathy will make a person's heart much bigger.

Ah fuck wrong fox and Rabb1t is spelt wrong 😑

So lovely!! Can I know what the fox bit is about, or is it private friend ting?

No secret but there was a time where Polly rocked this as their avatar

Boom boom!

Legend!- gotta love da Fox!

You're grrrrreat, DeadRAbb1t 👾💥💥

Ahhhh you are a legend yourself you're enthusiasm and openness is uplifting ❤️❤️

🌟🌟🌟😃! 🩷🩷🩷💕🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷💥👾

I love this, a beautiful random act of positivity from you FJ and it's well deserved too, in fact you're both right up there with the goodest of eggs as far as I can tell💜💚

Love you bud!! Thank you for being my friend 💛💛💛

And here's a line from that song I just posted, just for you - as a nod to your love for nature, and your green fingered prowess -

" flowers of the earth,
Who can even guess how much a real friend is worth" °•♡•°🌷🌷🌷

Aw thanks for being mine mate, you're the best💜💚

B0W is one cool dude with one cool hound hehe...

Im not sure how cool he is at the moment, little toerag has been starting beef with big dogs, such a little menace!

😂♥️

Toby Wan-Kenobi turned to the Darkside

Hi Fifi

You are the kindest soul on LB.

What you are actually doing is what Buddhist call Metta meditation - loving-kindness meditation and you sure will get lots of good karma for it.

Stay Blessed

He helped me before with something as well . He's a top guy

Thanks Cloudy! xx

Oh my God TWDuke!! 😭💛💛💛

Thank you!

Do you remember last year, a vendor did some competition, and to enter you had to tell everyone who your favourite bigga was?? Well I put Psychonauts and Polly, but ever since I have ALWAYS thought to myself- man! I wish I'd put TWDuke aswell. You are the epitome of class, soul and verve, always served with a good dollop of mega clever,
helpfulness :)))


I love what you said about the Buddhist meditation :) 💛💛💛

Dukey is cooool...

Thanks Polly much appreciated 🫡

Ah Fifi

I'm merely sharing some of the things I've learned with others, people have been very hepful since I've joined LB so if I can help anyone else in any kind of way.

Glad to hear that I've been helpful!

Thank you very much but I don't know if I deserve to be put up there next to Psychonauts (Deity status) or Pollypuff (Hero Status) 🦸‍♂️

Allow me to return the compliment by quoting Debby Harry "I am always touched by your presence dear" 🙏

Wow! Goes straight into the "best compliments of all time", top 5!!!! Thank you TWDuke! 😃🫠🦄💕

best place to symp is lb dedications but you'll have to pick a song to match your love

Thank you 😊, I was pretty far gone when I posted that, and didn't know where to put it.

So I'm just going to let rip on some kind of sick making drivel, but it is sincere, if naff AF, haha.

I DID pick a song to demonstrate my love, admiralBishop- and it's this -

https://youtu.be/iq_WkGHuuX0?si=2xD6-9XG1qEwmLIi



I think Polly is the embodiment of the lines" You give a little love and it all comes back to you,
you're gonna be remembered for the things that you say and do"

And this is going to sound supremely arse kissy, but I don't care, it's what I really think - If aliens came down right, and hijacked LB, and said, "take us to your leader", haha, who among us wouldn't point them in Pollys direction :)

And I think that this is irrefutable evidence, to say that, at least on this site, that hate and horribleness has tried its best to bring down, kindness and decency wins, because that's how Polly rolls, isn't it :)))

So that line's for Polly, and this one's for all the many, many "👐GOOD GUYS!👐", on LB that I think, definitely outweigh the meanies:)))

"It's been decided,
We're weaker divided,
Let friendship double up our powers" 😍😍😍


Everything else aside, I honestly think that if you watch/ listen to this till the end, and don't feel at least a little bit happier, you're already dead, haha

Now THAT was a blast from the past! (how do you find these things?!)- and yeah a great big grin on my face!

Its so true though- even on a site that somehow attracts some truly dodgy AF folk, the positivos rule. Just look at how much positivity and love you have generated from starting this one post- I mean wow!

I have a couple of LB T-shirts with the original logo/slogan that reads "humanity reaches adulthood" which was the kind of hippy ideal that must have got this place started all those years ago.

Long Live LB and you FJ!- xxxxx

Oh my God! I SO totally want an LB t-shirt!!! What an excellent slogan. Start knocking some out someone! I've often thought LB t-shirts would be brilliant

Thank you for your lovely words, Polly. And yes indeed, long live LB, and long may you reign Polly! 😝💥💥💥👾👾👾👾🩷🩷🩷💥

😂😂😂

I'll bring the loofah!!

Ah fifijane I’m not in love with the fox but he’s been a legend in there own right and helped me more than they would know or like to admit

Take a bow 🙇‍♂️

"Not in love"?!...Is it just a silly phase you're going through?...do you keep my picture upon the wall?...does it hide a nasty stain thats lying there?....

😂 brilliant 🤣🌟

Polly is legendary.
The biggas in this thread are also. Love to see the vibe is still alive ❤️

Right back at ya dashers! x

There is no such thing as a cheap set up mate.
Buy cheap buy twice!!
There is an awfull lot more to growing than throwing a light over them in a cheap tent!
An extraction set up is manditory really,for numerous reasons...First and foremost is to make the whole grow odourless to the outside world!! Secondary is to keep the relative humidity below 50% in late flower to avoid your beloved crop turning to grey mold before your eyes.
I suggest joining a forum and posting your grow up.uk 420 maybe? Lots of experienced growers on there will help you have a successfull harvest.

Have you got any recommendations for an exhaust system for a 5x5? I’m going to check out that website after I’m home for work thanks !

6inch ac infinity mate

What else do you have e in your grow kit?

You got a meter that measures temp and humidity. I’d hazard a guess this is the issue.

You can grow without and exhaust fan, I had several crops fine but as stated will stink without a carbon filter, mainly in flowering near end tbh.

However with a fresh air intake at bottom of tent and hot exhaust extraction at top you will get better results.

You can couple the exhaust fan to a temp controller too, I found this would help regulate at night in cold winters.

I managed to sort a whole carbon exhaust and smaller intake with fans and tubing for under 100 quid.

Make sure you got a little circulation fan in tent too, plants will love you for that addition

That’s all I kinda just winged the first 3 times but this time I got a decent light and tent so wanted to know what else to buy to make it all go perfect this time 🤷‍♂️, yeah my problem was definitely humidity and heat. Luckily for me smell isn’t really a issue I’ve found so far

Smell not an issue in terms of Random’s smelling or your skunk ain’t hit that overwhelming stench 😂

Avoid all in one deals, usually can get cheaper.

Amazon delivered most my stuff including soil lol a bit bait I know but did for years 😂

If growing in soil get ph meter you stick in, can get ones that switch between a few things including ph and wetness - 10 quid or so

Humidity meter / temp - 5 quid

Cheap tent - varies on brand and size - I’d go biggest you can first rather than neeeding to upgrade when you grow monsters lol

clip on fan for inside tent to circulate air (one that can oscillate) 10-30 quid

Key things you need to manage are:

Temps / humidity
Water
Air

Temps - can’t stress this enough!!! Dropping a couple of degrees is fine at night but big spikes will stress you babies

I believe leds ain’t as hot as I used to run hps.

The ONLY reason I had extractors was to manage temp via controller AND smell when peak flowering!!!!

You can get away with opening flaps and fan inside but I’d crack a window for some fresh oxygen.

You can go deep into more automation, nutrients and all that shit later mate.

No ones mentioned pot choice. It does matter.
I used Airpots-⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️.
But messy to water with,but because they have holes in,you can get air to those roots—-I completely by accident ended up blasting the roots with winter uk temps (jan/feb) and the results we’re spectacular.
If I remember right I got 30 oz from a single 600w bulb.!!
Ak48-will never forget.

Good luck

Environment is Number one.

Get yourself a hygrometer with min and max facility on it and you'll know what is happening in the tent when you're not around.

With LED's you want about 27c lights on, and no lower than 22 with the lights off. While they are still Vegging, humidity should be around 70% but when in flower you should be aiming for 50%. Probably a tenner from amazon.

You need an extractor fan, probably about a 150mm for a small tent, but this needs to be wired into a fan controller such as an SMS, which will regulate the fan speed depending on what temp is in your tent. When it gets hot, the fan speeds up, and when the desired temp ir reached, it turns itself back down to the minimum. One end of the fan should have a carbon filter on it to hide the smell as best it can and the other end should be vented out of the tent. Not only does this control temps but it also draws in fresh CO2 which is essential to growth.

Next you need a heater of some kind for when the light is off or its particularly cold. Oil filled rads work best. Again, you need a controller for the heater to turn itself off and on as required. G.A.S make a pretty good heater controller for about 50 quid.

These are the most important steps. You could have the best cuttings or seeds in the world, but if your environment is not right, they'll still come out shit.

Search google for Growell or greens horticulture. They do all the bits youll need

Tell us more.......

Grow space size?
How many plants?
House/flat??

Too many question

start with good cuttings

Hey 5x5 tent , 3-5 auto flowers I have seeds though not cutting, I’m growing the top back of my house

All good advice above...

If you don't get your environment right...you will always struggle...air flow and extraction are a must imo!

Good luck!

If you’ve built a pc, try emulate a tower that has bottom / front intakes - exhaust out your top and back.

If really wanting good intakes - get smaller in-line fan and flexi trunking and seal this to window.

In winter i used to run my spent exhaust gas through the door on the room and into the house.

Saved on heating through winter 😂

Also remember air flow drops drastically with frequency of turns and harsh bends!!!

PM me dude might have what you need 😉

If you can come to me to collect I can give you my 4800 grow tent kit mar hydro .

You just need to replenish air, personally in a 5x5 I would use a 8inch extractor on a speed controller, that way you're covered if humidity spikes in flower. A 6inch should do it tho. intake is kinda optional I guess if your on a budget. defo leave vents open tho if not using a intake.
keep RH below 60% in flower and you should avoid mold. You will need the give your grow area and room a very good clean since you have had mold before. You should also see a huge improvement in yield since they would have been starved for co2 on your previous attempts.

Use airpots,and utilise the hundreds of holes in the design to blast colder air at the roots inside.
I did exactly that during a winter grow that finished on feb 13th- air was freezing !! Biggest crop I ever got from one 600w bulb 30 odd ozs.
Best of luck.

If mild is your main issue then you’re not moving enough air out.
This is paramount to keeping the moisture under the required amount.
Get a built in sensor that you can monitor with.
Maybe don’t water til run off when plants get bigger? Just add a bit at a time?

You need a good exhaust system (air out) and your game will change,I’m sure of it.

You won’t have to spend more than £70 for a brilliant extraction unit. And don’t forget about the ‘last line of defence’——the inline ozone attached to that exhaust. ABSOLUTE zero smell leaving your gaff. This is the most important purchase my friend.

Definitely join the forums,
So much advise there.
🫡

Number one piece of advice before seeds, tents, lights, extractors, nutes:

Get a decent air intake ie. cool, fresh air being drawn in from outside. You'll need to drill / bore a hole. Drill 2 holes, side by side and extract your air from the other. The cool air intake should preferably lay close to the floor so that it circulates around and then upwards. Invest in an adjustable fan - that way you can keep temps within the ideal range, even with hot lamps.

I’ve only grown once, as much to see if I could do it as anything else (cost/effort wise, it’s debatable how much benefit you ultimately get with a small grow, but I enjoyed it). As others have said, air flow and temperature were key things for me. And you also mentioned the smell not being an issue. This is interesting, because—done right—it’s going to smell *really* strong. So that filter is a must. I used a Black Orchid (100 mm) extractor fan and a 4inch filter made by a company called Ram. And make sure you’re taking care of them when they’re getting started (I read up on topping and pruning, and it really helped to establish sturdy/healthy plants). Good luck!