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1313
by  1313
The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World : IQ^2 Debate
Fry and Hitchens take on the Archbishop and Tory MP
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iron jizz
The Catholics needed a pedant on their side not a pendant. Taken literally this position gets a lot easier to defend.
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Redeyejedi25
I'm not sure trying to peg any organisation as objectively good or bad is possible, but also fuck the Catholic Church and all they are.
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coldspurs
This reminds me of a Jam lyric: "We were no match for their untamed wit".
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Zeek
I was raised catholic and this is seriously the best joke I’ve read on this site lmao

Mass murder; centuries of child abuse, financial manipulation of countries and its peoples, stifling science for centuries, masses of lies and corruption, manipulating the world, controlling the weak minded, instilling a ridiculous morality onto its followers that only incites hatred and misery

The catholic churuch is just the greatest group of criminals to ever exist

God I’m so proud to be catholic πŸ˜‚
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Beefy1892
You forgot to include wealthiest, if the Roman Catholic Church realised all it's assets then they could probably eradicate world poverty in a year
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Zeek
Facts
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Redeyejedi25
I don't think I've ever heard or seen Widdicombe and not immediately wanted to scrape my eyes out and shove dynamite in my ears.

What a horrificly horrible and hateful person she is. Eugh
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We know you want her.
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zeppomarx
who wouldnt
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British Bulldog
I don't like Anne Widdecombe at all, but from what I remember from this debate (I watched it a few years ago) she switched from Christianity to Catholoisim because of the amount of hypocrisy in the C of E.

Now don't even get me started on the hypocrisy in the Catholic Church, but I must admit I do somewhat sympathise with the point she was making.

You can't have a religion based upon a book that says "we don't agree with homosexuality" then just ignore that view because it's no longer popular.

It's like the Christian Church is now willing to ignore any of its doctrines just to remain "relevant", and get some likes on Twitter.

If you're going to be a bigoted religion, at least own it.

I'm not really into arguing about religion or politics, and I'm neither religious nor particularly political, but I do have to admit a begrudging respect for any religion that at least sticks by it's dogmatic roots, however ridiculous those roots are.

That's pretty much all I got from Widdicombe that was worth thinking about.

The rest of her nonsense....isn't worth anyone's time.

Cheers BB πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘πŸ»
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Redeyejedi25
All versions of Christianity ignore some parts of the bible because it's not popular. The Bible says not to wear two different types of fabric at once, and to sell your daughter to her rapist, but no Christians are abiding by that. They are all as bad as each other, to pretend like she's calling out hypocrisy by changing from one hateful religion to another is so deceitful, another part of the reason she is scum.
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star lads
starting to sound like a fun read, any sightings?
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Revolut Help
Religion is very personal but by becoming personal it looses its meaning of existence. Therefore a stepping stone into realisation of God.

Being personal means one aspect is more influential than the rest

In reality religion has become part of a lazy answer for our insecurities that comes from the limitation of existence. Allowing us to put a bandage and peek at it every Christmas/Sundays for Christians or Ramadan/Fridays for Muslims or Hannaka/(Not sure which day of the week is specual fro them)....So we dont really have to investigate into our existence.....My POV...so only an opinionπŸ˜‰
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Beefy1892
Dunno if you ever saw her debating with Stephen Fry and I think Chris Hitchins or possibly Jordan Peterson at Oxford? Between them they gave her the best fucking she's ever had
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Cr0w
Already seen this you don't want to know my take as a Satanic/pagan Witch/warlock ... But i agree with stephen about most things. The part i can't stomach is that The church brag (Or used to) about their il educated followers from africa.. one reason why i returned to the ways of my old english ancestors.. in all things balance and respect for nature and our home.. Ave Lucifer the light bringer and Giver of knowlage .. Ave lilith mother of all witches and reflection of the black sun.
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1313
Pitching the devil sounds like an interesting line of work.
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ike
pay is great just ask jk rowling
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Cr0w
the word Devil means adversary... Rowling XD are you another one of those magic is the work of the devil hacks??
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Cr0w
not the devil but the witch king look up traditional witchcraft...
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British Bulldog
"Giver of knowlage..."

Well that all sounds pretty knowlagabel to me.

Were do I syne up?

Cheers BB πŸ‘Œ
Cr0w
XD lucifer before the bible... In Roman folklore, Lucifer was the name of the planet Venus, Also worshiped as a wisdom god.
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British Bulldog
Is spelling and grammar not a part of "wisdom and knowledge?" (or knowlage)

You'd have thought the old Lucibubs would've at least armed you with a dictionary.

Anyway, each to their own. ❀️

Cheers BB πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘πŸ»
Cr0w
this explans it better https://partiallyexaminedlife.com/2020/02/25/lucifer-how-a-decent-deity-got-a-bad-rap-part-1/ and i was never very good at eather of those i was always more creative. XD i'll be the first one to admit i can't spell and my grammer since the net has gone to pot ... XD
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British Bulldog
There's nothing wrong with having limited spelling and grammar buddy, but I struggle to understand why you would come on here claiming "wisdom and knowledge" given to you by some dark force when you can't even spell the words properly....

I know nothing about open heart surgery, so I'm not going to claim I have "specialism in the field" when it's very clear I don't.

Wisdom has nothing to do with education, but to claim you have wisdom AND knowledge, because you worship the devil...

Yet you can't even spell 'knowledge'...

Sorry. But that needed to be called out.

Spelling and grammar are nothing. Manners maketh the man.

All the best and like I say, each to their own just please don't claim to have superiority in wisdom and knowledge by worshiping anyone, least of all the devil and witches.

Cheers BB
Cr0w
i don't worship any deity i work with them and i never claimed they gave me anything. the last part of what i said was just Veting or honouring the witch king and queen ( the male and female aspects of nature) i never claimed anything...
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British Bulldog
Fair enough buddy, sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick.

All the best ❀️

Cheers BB 😊
Cr0w
No problem BB also Keats and Einstein (sry for the spelling) couldn't spell so saying somone is not wise because they can't spell i feel is redundant. i guess what im trying to say even the dumbest of us can be wise. I mean even the dimist of sparks like myself still puts out a little light :)
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British Bulldog
Now you're making me feel bad. πŸ˜” Sorry. I do post derogatory shit sometimes when I'm awake late.

You keep doing your thing buddy if it makes you happy.

Much love to you. ❀️

Cheers BB 😊🍻
Cr0w
same G we are not perfect only human after all eh ? :) And i will, I feel what ever faith or not anyone follows if it makes them a better person it can only be a good thing right ? ... i just feel some where along the path people started to use it for control and not to help and heal..
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CherryCola2000
All Abrahamic religions are backwards and immoral, imo.

Christian god Genocided the whole planet to prove a point, and the Muslim Prophet, well, look up the age of Aisha when he married her.

We no longer need religion, its just a tool to distract and divide people.
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Essemcee
Edgy.
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greencigar
Jesus is King
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brakefast
are there any gods that support democracy?
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biggL
laugh all you like but the basic philosophy of jesus is love and that is exactly what the world needs.
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Zeek
Yet his loudest followers scream at women at abortion clinics, promote violence towards gay people and basically act like 15th century bigots with torches

Doesn’t sound very loving to me, sounds more like a relationship with Ike Turner

Jesus spoke beautiful words but they’ve been twisted and manipulated to spread hate not love by the loudest β€œbelievers” as evidenced in every evil act done in the name of Jesus or Christianity

I’m gonna stick to worshipping the truest deity known to man- our lady and saviour MARY JANE 🀣
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brakefast
with that but the question remains
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theStrokes
Yes but they die in an apocalyptic battle with stupidity
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bonnie1
yea sure why not, in general i think the catholic church is a force for good in the world
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Aristophanes
Let's have a look at bit of history:
1) Reconquista of Spain - overcame the previous more liberal Islamic Al-Andalus. Explusion of Jews & Muslims
2) The cultural rape of the Americas - effectively extinguishing the native way of life
3) All of those European wars which were pretty much Catholics vs Prods (Prods as bad as Catholics in this case)
4) More recently - at a time of AIDs and other STDs saying use of condoms 'evil'.
5) Messing up the psyche of its followers by seeing sex as dirty
6) A great place to work as a preist if you don't like adult women and prefer to have sex with under age boys and girls.
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Zeek
Boooom

If I were a smart man I’d have worded my reply this well haha

Love use of such modern issues caused by the church, generally people seem to think the evil they’ve done is centuries ago, but there’s so much in modern history; in living memory that prevents catholism from ever being objectively β€œgood”
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Hebba1.5
Every super power has its good and evil sides too it it’s up too you to keep them balanced in the right way.
oasis
by  oasis
Einstein: The universal force is LOVE
Determinism vs Free Will
wells
by  wells
Ludwig Wittgenstein: a mind on fire
1313
by  1313
How Our Reality May Be a Sum of All Possible Realities
star lads
by  star lads
The Fun Theory Sequence
Tenpester
by  Tenpester
Noam Chomsky & Michel Foucault Debate 1971
dreday
by  dreday
Jack Kerouac on Hippies (1968)
mat ha
by  mat ha
Donna Haraway. Companion Species Manifesto Lecture 2003 1/10
yungLb
by  yungLb
Affirmative Action is Simply Less Wrong
theStrokes
A Conversation with Bertrand Russell (1952)
Noam Chomsky on Where Artificial Intelligence Went Wrong
zeppomarx
by  zeppomarx
Why does good usually win in the long run!
caringv
by  caringv
the right to work with whoever you chose
zeppomarx
by  zeppomarx
Just say no (to content): Nietzsche’s surprising β€œinformation diet”
At what point do our actions become inconsequential in the grand scheme of things?
24601
by  24601
the will to do anything vs the will to sacrifice anything
bigg topics