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on {Sutler's England}

The Royals Should Pay Slavery Reparations

Straight out the gate. Chill, Raj, or your banner with all its bullet points of what White Privilege is may get damaged. Simply put, because I'm White… + 10 more

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on {Sutler's England}

The Royals Should Pay Slavery Reparations

Who among us today:

- stands on the most wealth compounded from past sins?

- are the clearest descendants of those responsible?

- can most afford it?

If there is any credible role for these living vestiges of the past it is to account for it.

+22

theStrokes

Would be the smartest thing they could do, what they fuck are they doing otherwise - besides providing testimony to inequality?

+11

funwaystodie

accent calibration?

ike

Seriously the brand value would go up billions

+21.2

Uthr

England outlawed slavery in the 19th century and actively fought and stopped those that were in the business of slavery.

Back in the day it wasn't like there was one country enslaving another, it was a world wide business and England stood up to the world to stop it. England has already had it's anti-slavery moment, it took place over a hundred years ago and since then we have been against it.

There were African tribes capturing and selling people to slavers, do you want them to pay as well, and who do you want them to pay?

The Chinese and Persians also took slaves from Africa, they castrated them.

Pulling down statues and washing over history is going to do more to help people to forget that it ever happened, we should leave the statues up and educate people so that we know to never ever let it happen again.

Taking away someone's freedom without reason and trading in people's misery is about as bad as it gets and I repeat, we should never let it happen again. Pulling down statues is another step in the direction of helping people forget that it ever happened and if we can't learn from the past then we are in danger of repeating it.

plymouth rocker

regardless the royals personally owned slaves and here they still are able to pay up for it.

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Mrcaa-3

You idiot, lots of people owned slaves, it was kind of a thing.... Let me guess they also need to pay war reparations to the horses of the light brigades descendants? The fact you buy drugs online rather than work on your mental deficiencies is astonishing.

dr drek

just wondering how does that 2 wrongs make a right routine work out for you? my experience and that of the history of man is that it's toxic as fuck.

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hank

and what about the 1.5 million white slaves taken from europe by africans? dont they count?
or was reading real history too complicated for you? clown.
we abolished slavery while african chiefs were putting cages full of slaves on the beaches waiting for profit.
over 2000 british servicement died fighhting slavers while it was still legal in every other country on earth.
more blacks owned slaves than whites did...and over 90% of slaves in africa died before they reached sdale.
but dont let the truth effect your ill informed media driven propaganda.

doc holiday

I had a feeling you were here Charles.

McLean86

Exactly this.

+11

greencigar

Hindsight is twenty twenty, as they say. It is, however, useless when we are aimlessly stumbling through the present moment to survive. I liken the experience to growing older and maturing. If we were to atone for every sin we accumulated through childhood, we'd mostly ALL be skint, black, white, yellow, brown, or rainbow-coloured. If you are always looking back over your shoulder, you'll never look forward.

tnicho

Mrcaa-3

Can we talk about how our king has done more for equality, against slavery and human trafficking than any African monarch.

The fact you can post this and think "ooo take that Britain" just shows what kind of pathetic warped individual you are, I bet you also agree with "from the river to the sea"

This country is a bastion of human rights, fairness and equality and has been longer than any single country on earth. Posting shit like this just demonstrates not everyone SHOULD have the right to be here.

zeppomarx

I think you are cleverly proving the point that slavery exists today. It all starts with an arbitrarily chosen ruler and ignorant obedience.

metoo22

Who should they pay reparations to?

The African countries that are still using their own people as slaves?

don moto

that would exclude all the descendants of slaves since they were taken away from those countries

metoo22

Why do descendants deserve anything? Would they move back to Africa now? They probably have a better life where they are.

The Romans enslaved most of Europe but you don't see Europeans begging for a handout from Italy. Same with the Vikings and Denmark.

1212

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/16/jesuit-conference-canada-us-catholic-reparations-descendants-enslaved-people

Actually the remaining institution of Rome is starting to pay up. Windsors should do the same.

metoo22

Absolute bollocks. Read your own article. It says "Leaders of the Jesuit Conference of Canada and the United States". Nothing to do with Rome. Just a few North Americans virtue signalling

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tnicho

PsyKoala

The continent of Africa circa the trans-atlantic slave trade was inhabited by peoples of various tribes and factions who were engaged in perpetual conflict, over resources but also owing to cultural differences. They would each kidnap rivals and enslave them, offering them to the British in exchange for money or goods. The notion that Europeans simply bopped over and ransacked the place and shackled the natives is not just unfounded, it is preposterous. Excursions to Africa were costly, not just in terms of money and resources but also in men. They were mounted with the intention to obtain slaves through trade as this meant less lives (and gunpowder) were lost in the pursuit of their objective, which was to bring slaves back to the continent.

TL:DR African tribes were complicit in the trans-atlantic slave trade

HashBot

Who to?

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$formal frac$

formal frac

I'll have a bit, probably give it to charity but the thought would mean a lot.

coldspurs

bigg up

TalkToFrank 9.7/10

The royals don’t have bank accounts or given any cash so how it would be the firm who are the slave masters of the royals watch Harry’s speech about it they are only allowed direct material items i suppose they can hand out their TVs and shirts off their backs? Do your research.

Nice idea though. If anything it should be the government but then it’s been so long now it’s like getting paid for someone running over your dog it’s not really the same as it never happening in the first place but smart fascism and racism is bigger than ever. And it always stems from the top down never the other way around.

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rajrodger

in short their finances are
assets: around 1 billion
income from property: 20 million pounds every year
income from each of our pockets: 80 million pounds every year

reckon they can afford something here and still live it up like they like to.

generation last

if they embraced it that would be something

Bigbum

Last comment on this subject from me;) humans are almost clones of each other. For example to apes are always more genetically different than any two humans and they basically do the same in life due to most being born in to similar situations. So it’s very easy to judge people for their mistakes, when if born in the same situation, we may do very similar things. It’s very easy to say how wrong things were and are from the we have everything we need perspective that we look from nowadays in developed countries anyway. Using others for your own gain is wrong imo but if you were born into the Royal family, ask yourself, how vocal about reparations would you be? Peace

energixed

I'd be vocal, at least it would be an alternative to the monotoous life of bullshit I'd otherwise be living.

ike

story of the Buddha starts right there

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Bigbum

It wasn’t wrong then though. Say for example your family got wealthy through shares and that got made illegal in the future. Would you say “oh I can’t believe how immoral my family were” and donate all their money to charity and have em out on the street?

Should Italy pay France for using their land for 300 years and killing half the country back in Roman times? Remember you only have the right to be how you are now because your ancestors killing the previous inhabitants and took their land. Are you looking to make reparations to their ancestors?

What I think is the royals should stop getting money from the people. They are basically bums with the best universal credit deal ever!

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ghetto bikes

slavery was always wrong, it was cheap and easy and the other guy was doing it but anyone with a conscience is hard wired to know stealing people in chains and imprisoning them for life isnt ok.

Bigbum

Slavery still exists , it’s just changed name to employee. If you are working, it’s for shareholders benefit,

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theStrokes

The means of exchange for employment is money. The means of exchange for slavery is the threat of violence. Most humans can see a big difference in this.

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plymouth rocker

uh yeah i think its a little different if you're getting paid for your work and have a choice of employers. different than being kidnapped or bred into a life of hard labour.

illirum

this, what we are forced to live, is not slavery as on a cotton plantation, but it still is slavery. best proof is the "distribution of wealth". its just a different kind of slavery. where we are our own slave-drivers haha. it is essentially feudalism and it is becoming digital more and more.

oasis

feudalism is very different to slavery, some of our ancestors had the pluck to get out of it and become tradesmen, artisans, even adventurers. today a lot of people are born into fucked circumstance but many more have education and at least a shot.

a slaves life (if they made the journey which murdered a majority of them) was *nothing* like this.

illirum

literally no, but conceptually yes. at least to my mind

metoo22

You're not forced to work for someone else. It's your choice and the easy option. There's nothing to stop you starting you own business except gumption and effort.

Bigbum

I won’t write a response because it would take a lot of writing for you to see the similarities. Just ask yourself though. How much of your life is for you? Why did you get sent to school? Can you roam about freely? How many of us are stuck in a job , just so we can pay the bills? Who is benefiting from your consumption? Are you doing what you want to be doing or are you enriching someone else’s life by working hard? What does that sound like? Peace;)

plymouth rocker

it sounds nothing like moral equivalence, not by orders of magnitude. it also sounds like a response, just a very weak one.

Bigbum

Well I hope you eventually find some level of peace and a way to deal with the reality of life now and our shared history for your future sanity;) take care

oasis

and a weaker gas light attempt, like a match next to a small fart.

Bigbum

Not really. I mean it , truly. Why haven’t I downvoted a single post of yours? Because I feel for your tormented minds

greencigar

All life is suffering. So make it meaningful :)

Bigbum

Now your talking. Agreed;)

Turbo800

Tribal elders fought and captured other tribe members and sold them to Europeans its still practiced today so go point the finger straight back and ask them

Bigbum

Yes I am the sad one. I’m not the one whining about how wealthy others have been 100’s and thousands of years ago by following the laws of their time. Whining about others is just a deflection from your own faults;) try thinking about what you can do now to make the world a better place, not whining about history. Also now the black people who are descendants of slaves don’t seem to want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage, right? I wonder why;)

Bigbum

Only because my grandparents had to flee out of their country due to they would of been killed . Also stripped of their lands / money and I am not asking for reparations from anyone. Just saying

rajrodger

how the fuck is white privilege not real?

PieBoy

" just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling"

Yes. That's what white privilege means.

We don't need to know anything about you, all other things being equal, you're better off than your black neighbour.

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PieBoy

'We' in this context means everyone who isn't 'you'.

PieBoy

Sanctimony? Irony?

I'm not making a judgement, I'm explaining what's meant by the term.

White Privilege does not mean the least privileged white person is still better off than every black person, which is what you're railing against.

It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person.

A white doctor gets paid more than a black one.

A white police officer has more opportunities for promotion than a black one. That kind of thing.

PieBoy

Haha I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but never that.

You misunderstood me, I hate this moderation of language as much as you do.
I’d much rather racists are allowed to be as clear as you are, then we all know where we stand.

Peace be upon you.

PieBoy

Big of you man.
Sorry if my last one was a bit hot.

Big up.

rajrodger

you just said white privilege is real in other classes.

don't doubt you get a pass when class distinctions are bigger than race.

$e^{i \pi} + 1 = 0$

e^{i \pi} + 1 = 0

fair enough and i would probably feel the same from that perspective but what you are missing is the punitive damages aspect of the liability.

at a time when the world is turning more separatist and fascist it's especially valuable to know that shit like that is held accountable for ever.

Mrcaa_420

Make this guy a politician please

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+3 votes

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+4 votes

on THEGREENTEAM 9.6/10

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on THEGREENTEAM 9.6/10

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3 posts

+5 votes

on doc holiday

the moral inferiority of veganism

Same when I ate meat never ate that crap. It's astounding how many ppl do tho. I agree man it's the way forward for now. + 3 more

on doc holiday

the moral inferiority of veganism

farm work still has a hand in the slavery business it's a desperate act that "the most evolved of us" have avoided for generations.

why then do vegans look down on those that minimize this abuse by eating bred animals?

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hesh 10/10

Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? you can't claim to 'minimize abuse' whilst at the same time needlessly killing sentient beings.

not to mention the significantly larger percentage of land and crops required to make animal products when compared to making plant based products, you are actually drastically increasing the amount of 'farm work' required to make animal products when you have to feed livestock the majority of your crops

maybe also look into the vast amount of ongoing exploitation and slavery in animal agriculture and meat processing factories.

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oblong89

Interesting topic! Although admittedly, a little puerile. I though we were perhaps past the point of making mass and crass generalisations about large groups of people.

Firstly- arable farming does occasionally require cheap labour- and in certain horrific situations people are exploited and enter into slavery. The same goes for your weed, the clothes people buy, the phone you probably wrote your original post on. Surely a monetary based framework for structuring global society is to blame, and not simply people who don’t want to be complicit in killing and eating dead things when it isn’t necessary?

Secondly, a defence of veganism could be that a corrupt arable farm perpetuates slavery- most do not.

All abbatoirs kill, corrupt or not, and could be the reason why these morally superior vegans justify their sense of superiority- in my experience, most, and include myself here, really couldn’t give a shit about what you eat mate! Have at it!!!! :-)

The environmental impact of a meat heavy diet, and the various links to different types of cancer do speak for themselves.

From a moral viewpoint- i personally require a type of newly developed medication that did a shit load of testing on animals. Loads. My decision not to eat meat was based on that. A load of animals have died to keep me alive- it just seemed reasonable to avoid killing any more if i can.

Good point about the slavery! I hadn’t considered it as much a i ought to. I had heard the argument about field dwelling animals being massacred by combine harvesters anyway, and that deffo made me think….

Do you have data on the number of farms exposed as utilising slave labour? It would be a good starting off point to gauge the ratio you keep asking about.

Also, the quote regarding ‘the most evolved of us’- what are you quoting?

windiest

this could all be solved if they just ate bread animals instead

1212

Yeah or animal biscuits they keep better.

ike

most farm work is large scale desperate labor. the moral answer is clear: be a DIY vegan though it's only a matter of time until the immorality of this is exposed ;)

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illirum

idk, but its rather obvious why so many vegans behave almost like fascists. veganism in the west is pushed by the same ilk that was pushing global warming before this plandemic...

hesh 10/10

interesting mental gymnastics there, if you want to talk about forcible suppression of opposition then take a look in the mirror, also you immediately politicize the issue when in reality the vastly growing vegan population has absolutely 0 interest in the politics of 'pushing agendas', literally the entire moral compass of veganism is just about reducing / eliminating suffering

i've never pushed for anything (other than moral consistency, on occasions) if i see misinformation i'll simply attempt to correct it like i did with the op.

Bigbum

The best way to reduce suffering imo is for humans to stop increasing their population

doc holiday

whats the calculus for human suffering to animal suffering? is it a 1:1 ratio?

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illirum

mental gymnastics? dude? read your comments hahah!
its quite obvious that what youre saying is just your personal projection.
besides, Ive done my research and Im not a naive kid as are the majority who have fallen for the vegan agenda.

hesh 10/10

so you're calling scientists and academics 'naive kids' whilst implying you have all the answers?

there's literally nothing more naive than labelling moral consitency an 'agenda'

also you seem to be very hung up on the term 'vegan', well it doesn't always have to be about vegans, as most intelligent rational humans will tell you, this is actually about the animals, not us.

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illirum

your way of communication is strange. youre behaving like a propaganda bot. and maybe you havent seen my answer regarding KFC vegan items.
link https://littlebiggy.org/link/jW379g

hesh 10/10

interesting you want to label a rational statement as propaganda, yet you keep saying such things as 'plandemic', 'pushing global warming', 'vegan agenda'

you are clearly highly influenced by propaganda, and i did see your statement about vegan kfc items yes.

illirum

I have never entered an KFC or ordered from them. Stopped eating fast food a long time ago due to health reasons. Even went 5 years or so without meat and dairy.
Having lived through that ordeal I mastered the topic of food and health, at least in my case.
Btw, Im all for closing down big industry meat production and I support only small local sustainable production of food, not just meat.

hesh 10/10

that's so absolutely true that when discussing this subject with stubborn people who 'could never give up meat' it always falls flat, probably why the original poster never replied! the issue of veganism is not contemporary within the scientific community

they will usually just straight up ignore science so they can push their own agenda, when the FACT is, there's actually no need for meat anymore, nor the suffering and exploitation associated with it.

doc holiday

whats the calculus for human suffering to animal suffering? is it a 1:1 ratio?

hesh 10/10

Ok so you've completely disregarded your original post by the looks of it

An estimated 50 billion chickens are slaughtered for food every year – a figure that excludes male chicks and unproductive hens killed in egg production.

that's only chickens but you're welcome to work out your own ratio there bud

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illirum

Is there such a thing? even if there is it would be stupid since animals dont have consciousness like humans do.
big industry is the only problem in all of this. anyone that is generalizing this issue is not thinking straight

oblong89

Good point, although consciousness is actually immeasurable as it’s subjective… there are ways of measuring intelligence, but that’s a different thing, and academics struggle to agree on how it can be measured anyway…

That’s one of the philosophical arguments of Veganism- we can’t actually gauge human suffering against animal suffering because we have no way of measuring the suffering the animal endures.

Tough one innit!

6 posts

+10 votes

on Hash-oil 'Vape Juice' Eliquid 9.7/10

Suitable kit for this...??

Hey Hashishin. This is awesome man. I'm being opened up to a whole new world here! Really informative.. I hope all this info clues others up who maybe… + 6 more

on Hash-oil 'Vape Juice' Eliquid 9.7/10

Suitable kit for this...??

Hi folks. I'm using the same kit for this, that I've been using for standard e-liquids & I'm struggling to get a good draw on the stuff. I've been reading up about all kinds of different kits (temperature/viscosity etc etc) & found two online so far.... The 'Canna Blast' vapouriser pen & the 'CBD-FX' vape kit. Does anyone have any knowledge of these, or can anyone recommend a reasonably priced alternative..?? Thanks.

aatfoar250577

Hi there. First of all, I wouldn't be put off trying this, it;s a nice 'smoke'. I bought a couple of Ccell ceramic cartridges C3, from Dabheadz (UK) at £3.99 each & they work a treat.
I've been trying all kinds mate, coz I l love my hash, but hate tobacco....
I can't answer the Q's about mg or average tokes, coz all that's down to the individual, but what I can say is this....
I bought a couple of the distillate/resin vapes (the strong one's - 90% ish thc). A couple of tokes of those & then using this vape to top up thru the evening, does me just fine.
It also works if I have about 15gm of gummy bear & then use this to 'top up' during the evening.
Don't be put off trying this.... By itself, it's a very calming 'buzz' & used as a 'top up', it's just the job.
let me know if you want any more info mate... I've been experimenting with different vapes for about 6 months now & I'll be buying this again. :-)

aatfoar250577

Just to add to that... The vape that I now use as the 'strong one', is the rosin cart from Serial Chiller Labs..... It's pure class (mind you, the others have been nice, but these one's are the future). :-)

aatfoar250577

I hope it works for you mate. I've not bought a bad product on here yet. Everything, for me, is designed to stop using tobacco. Having a spliff with a nice hash, has been a great pleasure over the years & really hard to give up.

The stronger distillate carts might seem really expensive at first, but when you weigh up the cost of hash & the cost of tobacco (price & health wise), they seem very affordable all of a sudden & using a decent strong cart, coupled with this juice and another (weaker one) that I bought on here, happy days mate. :-)

It took me months to find the right balance but, now I have, there's no going back.

Hashishin 9.7/10

Hi db! I'm really not an expert on vape pens/coils. I have a few different simple pens from aliexpress and I use a 510 thread ceramic coil, glass cart. so far I had no issues vaping the juice in any of my pens. I believe it also has something to do with the concentrate, while I'm pretty sure the 500mg and 1000mg will vape well in any kind of pen, the 2000mg and above is thicker and might need a strong coil & battery to vape properly. anyway, I see you've got some good advice on the subject from aatfoar. about concentrations - 1000mg is about 10 joints if smoking a +/-20% thc bud, assuming each joint is about 0.5 grams. some modern hybrids are above 90% thc of the total cannabinoids profile of the plant. land-race hash however, is much more diverse in it's cannabinoids profile with less thc:other cannabinoids(cbd,cbn,etc) ratio. therefor produce much more whole body effect than pure mind blow, with less chances of feeling over-whelmed and paranoia. If there is anything else I can add on the subject please let me know. cheers!

aatfoar250577

Sorry to butt in again mate, but there's a lot of these questions answered on the Leafly website. I found it invaluable, when I started switching to vapes. :-)

aatfoar250577

I get the same with a lot of the green mate. Not at all with the vapes. Hope it all goes well for you.
As for the edibles.... I was worried about them, paranoid about over-dosing. There's one on here who does 15mg gummies. Gonna try them, as that's easier to control intake of thc. :-)

1 post

+1 votes

on Golmagnum

Bitcoin ruining LB

I use coinbase. Transfer from bank > wallet is instant (page refresh instant), and from wallet to vendor wallet it's like 10mins. Never had a probl…

+14

on Golmagnum

Bitcoin ruining LB

Ok so just thought I should say out loud, that I'd have spent a hell of alot more on this site if there were other crypto options. Since bitcoin price shot up, using bitpanda I can't buy less than 7g products. So that's vape carts, grams, 3.5g, edibles, all out the window unless I want 80 quids worth of any one product. Come on LB, sort this out because vendors are certainly losing out, aswell as us buyers

Super Hans 9.7/10

the problem is not even bitcoin. We should have segwit and lightning network on here. Its literally made for vendors who receive numerous small payments. Transaction size and fees are drastically reduced.

Personally i won't even be accepting bitcoin once an alternative is added here.

PISTACH 9.6/10

Well said my brother <3

NorfolkOG

All I will say from close to a decade of using Bitcoin to buy drugs is there is never any complaints when it is skyrocketing in value but as soon as it starts dropping the toys come out the pram, shops close and orders get cancelled.

Dank2000 9.4/10

Well said!

nlxxhz1001

Yep I’m exactly the same.. the amount of times I’ve wanted to try something and been put off by fees is ridiculous. The only positive for me is that I’ve realised how much the local supply has improved over the past couple of years and it’s still £50 a Q but I’d still prefer to use the vendors here.