What's the deal here?

Is this compulsory testing? What happens if something doesn't pass?

Because as a buyer IDGAF.

I don't care if NASA, Sherlock Holmes and the angel Gabriel say it's legit, because there's nothing to prove that that's what is sent to me.

Some people post lab analysis results: IDGAF because there's nothing to prove that that's what is sent to me.

"Buy the seller."

Bingo

i've echoed this many times in the past along with the test borg

this only proves a products "legitimacy" to the borgs, just like you said, there's nothing to prove that we are receiving the same product as the borg

The borg doesn’t receive any product, they just visually confirm via an unboxing video if it was imported or not.

I disagree with your statement though, it would be very easy to identify if what the vendor is advertising as the imported product is in fact the same one you received or not. You would be able to tell from how it looks, smells, smokes.

the test borg does receive products, these results along with so called lab testing results posted on here are of no use to biggas, do you think that your criteria of "how it looks, smells, smokes" will work for 'lab tested' distillates, vapes, extracts, hash etc

with the anonymity of this site, lab testing etc is very easy to fake and be used for nefarious reasons

me and a few other biggas have called for hash purity testing but as stated above, it's far far too easy to send the test borg legit hash, then send hard working biggas the toxic junk

Sorry my friend I was talking about proof borg.

I was also only thinking about flower as that’s why I’m currently trying to prove import claim for. You’re right it would be much more difficult for concentrates etc.

We would be open to lab testing all our products and have already messaged test borg regarding this. But as you rightly say it is easy for any vendor to do genuine test results on genuine product but then send out toxic trash instead.

Again I would hope reputation and history plays a part in figuring out who’s lying and who’s telling the truth.

It’s not compulsory but as we’ve claimed it is an import the burden of proof is on us, which we have provided.

You’re right that most people will not care, but it is not about that.

Our listing is hidden from the wall until proof borg verifies the claim. This affects our sales.

Fair enough.

Isn't faking a video of a box being opened, rather easy to do?

I appreciate them doing anything towards improving standards, but on the face of it, I can't see much benefit to this particular check.

What does ring enormous fucking alarm bells though, is the fact that someone at LB is stupid enough to ask a criminal for their address.

I agree it can be easily faked and also appreciate them being thorough, but when I’ve done a unboxing video showing all sides of the box and the top and bottom, showing the label on top too, provided trackings too and explained everything in detail, I don’t see what the issue is anymore. Again as I said 50+ sales 50+ reviews and not a single problem with anyone saying it is not import.

And as you say asking for my postcode is ridiculous, sending off alarm bells for sure, I would be interested to know why they asked for that as they didn’t bother explaining, and whether any other vendors on here have ever been asked the same thing?

Does proof borg want me to send my ID and proof of address and take a selfie video with the postman handing me the box? Very unprofessional and silly.

Just to be clear I'm not suggesting your integrity is in doubt, just the strength of the test.

I mean, if they can fake the moon landings...

It’s all good, I completely agree with you my friend.

Cheers 🥂

I've never understood how opening a box on a video and showing the label is meant to prove anything, what's stopping a vendor from showing a shipment of decent bud being opened, getting the import approval then sending out some other shite they found on the dark web?
Not much to prevent that as far as I can tell.

You’re right it doesn’t prove anything and is easily faked, but it’s the best they can do with what they have, what other method would there be for verifying import?

And again you’re right nothing is stopping vendor from verifying import and then sending out some random shite.

We have never and will never do this and hope our reputation showcases that.

Our products are genuinely from America, we don’t even have any contacts for UK products, we don’t consume or sell UK products at all.

We should be allowed to sell it labelled as import and should have our import proof verified, really don’t see what we have done wrong to be messed around for the 4th week now and still getting nowhere and our products are still hidden from the wall as they won’t show until import claim is verified.

Not to mention being asked by the borg for our postcode. 🤦‍♂️

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You say that it would be easy to tell the quality, true, if what you send what you are claiming, there's a long history of dodgy vendors here who are trying to get the quick buck then exit so the Biggas need to work out if they can trust you right?

What if a Vendor has approval for an import then sends something else completely to the Bigga?
The Borg have basically helped them scam someone so I really think the methods of proving import should seriously be looked at as its not useful for the community at all!

Also I have friends in the states, they are getting their bud for under $20 an 8th, not all import is created equal or shipped properly/quickly, peoples obsessions with import is hilarious, surely it should be about the quality of the bud and not where it came from.

agree with you, it doesn’t prove anything and the method of proving import does seriously need looking at.

Just the fact that I’m willing to openly discuss all of this in public should show you what kind of person I am, if I was lying or creating fake import proof then I would be hiding away and not wanting to make it public.

We will always send biggas exactly what they ordered and what they see on the media of the listing.

It’s the 4th week and we are still trying to pursue this but aren’t being left any option to resolve this and not being given any help whatsoever from proof borg.

Also the escrow here protects everyone from getting scammed I don’t see the benefit in verifying import proof for genuine product and then sending something completely different.

Generally speaking the USA imports are much better quality and much better priced than most things available in the UK, this could be subjective though.

I hear what you're saying, it's always good to see a vendor interacting with the community and trying to be transparent but you are new, we can all say the right thing at the right time can't we?
Plenty of Vendors are great at saying the right thing till you click send on your order, then some have a lot less to say, and Escrow doesnt protect 100% of your money, there are loopholes in the system some Vendors use very efficiently to fuck over new Biggas.

And i'm not casting any doubt on you guys at all, i'm just saying you might be wasting your time with this proof of import stuff, There are other Vendors selling imported bud without claiming it as that here and i'm sure that's to avoid this, maybe you could rewrite your manifest to explain the origin of the bud in a way so you're not actually saying it, then you avoid regularly having to go through this broken process.

Then you could maybe list some 1g samplers of the product, the Biggas might be more likely to take a risk on it and then they will tell the rest of the community in the reviews how good the product is, it might just be a better use of your time and a better way to get some traffic rolling in than waiting for the Borg to catch up like you have been for 4 weeks.

Might save you a lot of dicking around.

That’s true we are new but we do have 80+ sales in this short space of time with 55 positive reviews. It’s not much compared to some of the big players on here but we don’t leave any genuine customers dissatisfied for any reason.

I didn’t know many vendors were selling imported bud as normal without the import claim, this makes sense now.

Thank you for the genuine sound advice it’s very much appreciated.

We will wait for proof borg to come online again one last time and read our messages and hopefully this topic to see what they decide.

If they don’t want to budge then we may well have to relist our products without the import claim, or word it slightly as a riddle to say it without saying it if that’s allowed.

I’ll have to speak to my partner to see if we can do 1g samples for new customers, hopefully it will be OK.

Cheers 🥂

I don't know if it's many that have the non uk stuff but some have definitely, some list the uk as uk and nothing on the other listings to set it apart, think some will list it like "Budget (UK)" and "Premium" and yeah it's stupid but then so is having a burden of proof without being able to actually prove anything.

I agree with what you said about the quality of most imports but the stuff my mate gets charged 20 bucks for is a similar quality to what we might be charged 40/50 bucks for here I know there's reasons for that but it just seems weird to me that import has come to mean quality for some people.

Let the bud do the talking mate it the best way and its looks good, i'm a sucker for an OG Kush so hoping they get you sorted soon, good luck👊🏻

Thanks for wording it so simply. ‘

it's stupid having a burden of proof without being able to actually prove anything.’

The stuff your mate pays $20 for gets sold for $40-50 here because the person importing it is taking a risk on losing their money or stock and nobody does anything for free.

Import absolutely does not mean quality and that’s quite apparent with our own OG Kush. It is a budget shelf from LA but still smokes clean for $130/oz or $100/oz on offer. It lacks taste and smell so it’s probably not the OG Kush you’re looking for, I can try to source one at Mid shelf and above for you if you like.

Cheers 🥂

Like I said I understand why we get charged more for it, there are overheads, the legality and the risk you're taking, by the time this stuff gets to us though its weeks or months older than the condition my mate in the states gets it so now the quality isn't as good, It's still import though, and will still be priced as import.
Why is proof of import even needed? Because people have come to think that it suggests quality. This is what I think is stupid and maybe needs some rethinking by the Borg!

The most frustrating part is that they have already accepted our first video that contained Italian Ice and OG Kush, and they even verified our import proof for the Italian Ice listing but they’re refusing to do the same for the OG Kush.

The second box we imported containing the super lemon cherry umami butter is similar looking box and we did everything the same in the video so please someone help us make it make sense.

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We’re also at 50+ sales and if our products were not really imports someone would have raised the alarm by now.

Does the exotic super lemon cherry look like UK bud to you?

Your parcel from EPG [ePostglobal] - ORD [Chicaco O’Hare International Airport]

So we’ve submitted unboxing video, submitted tracking number which is titled as being ePostglobal and coming from Chicago, but apparently this is still not enough.

Don’t bait the routeeees

What else am I supposed to do? I get 4 word replies every few days from proof borg and it’s been going in circles for 3-4 weeks in a row.

They’re calling me a liar so I’m pulling out all evidence I can to refute this. As they say, Argue like a bigga.

Long bro I personally don’t bother to do proof even though every gram I sold on this site was grown in CA OR or WA

Good Green sells itself anyone landing work has been stung with scrap lbs atleast once in there career lol

If I was you I’d make all my greens in the one listing seems what most big sellers on here do. My worst selling product is at the top of the wall in Ireland just because I’ve had it up longer than the greens. Seems the older your ad is, the higher up on the wall. Doesn’t matter for me no competition in Ireland but if I was competing UK that’s what I’d do 100%.