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mitch2471
by  mitch2471
A little help with Live Resin
Long term toker here but only just getting into concentrates, in particular carts (because I’m lazy).
I was under the impression that one of the main selling points of live resin was that you got the full extraction of that particular strain & as such a fairly like for like high from it. If I’m wrong please feel free to correct me.

Yesterday I stumbled upon a listing on a DM offering generic live resin which could be bought I mixed with your own terps or bought with terps of choice pre-mixed into it.

That’s kind of worrying for me as an end user. I can see how that may be beneficial for someone in the carts & concentrates game.

If I’m buying a live resin cart of say Amnesia I kind of expect what’s in that cart to have been extracted from an Amnesia plant, not some generic live resin with Amnesia terps mixed in.
I may be being naïve here (wouldn’t be the first time). Is this the norm these days? What do you guys/girls think of this?
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pollypuff23
Unfortunately you are mistaken. ‘Live Resin’ is made from freshly frozen material but the extraction methods are the same as distillate. This means the terpenes are destroyed in the process and added back in afterwards.

To get an all natural product you need Rosin which is produced using only heat and pressure. The problem there is that it’s generally too thick to vape well so needs to be diluted with ‘something’. The ‘something’ is usually undeclared….
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mitch2471
Ok thanks for setting me straight pollypuff23. I was under the impression that different extraction methods were used. Ethanol vs BHO to name but a few. Do you by any chance have any weblinks to sites hosting more info about each extraction method & the end results?
cheers
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pollypuff23
You are definitely right that propane and butane do a good job with preserving the terpenes of frozen (live) good quality plant and it’s part of the reason it’s more expensive than distillate and may deliver that elusive full spectrum effect in a way that distillate won’t. It’s just highly debatable whether the particular facets of a single strain will survive the process.

The uncomfortable truth is that many liquids are produced using cheap bulk flower of mixed strains anyway, regardless of the marketing 🫣

I’ll look up a link 👍
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mitch2471
Yeah that is the impression I am getting. So many unscrupulous practices in the weed world. I shouldn’t be surprised. That’s always how its been.
Well I guess the only option is to stick to named dispensary grade live resin, rosin & hope for the best. That or start growing again!
Appreciate you getting back to me & any links you dig up.
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pollypuff23
All is not well in the vape world. This from a report in the LA Times:

“ At the same time, the explosion in vape sales has created heavy demand for distillate. California vape sales tripled from 2020 to 2023 to become a $1.4-billion market, and now only slightly trail those of packaged flower.

To feed this demand, bulk oil manufacturers seek out lower-quality weed, much of it contaminated, to buy at discounted rates.

To meet state screening limits, the extracted oils, or distillates, are blended to dilute pesticides.

One manufacturer who solicits farmers for “dirty” weed defended the practice, saying he provided struggling growers an income source while keeping otherwise unusable cannabis out of the landfill.

The amber-colored bulk oil moves on an opaque market, traded by brokers who operate without license or regulation. It is bought by manufacturers who sometimes will use oil from the same batches to fill thousands of vape cartridges for competing brands.

This cheap commodity oil now dominates the market, selling for a fraction of the cost to produce a clean product.”
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