lol he sells 1g for 35$ i would terminate just for that ;D

It's the marks paying them sort of prices

Whats marks mrspock?

an easy target or victim mate.
It's a word of always used as I'm a big wresting MARK lol

Its real to me dammit :-)

Lmao I'm not that bad

and anyone who buys it..
i vote against this ban.
Way too much of a witch hunt. False accusations etc.
Some people v happy. If not just dont use them. There is way worse shilling on here even if it was true, but seemingly it isnt. Storm in a teacup.

Storm in a tea cup until it's YOUR private shit with a vendor being plastered all over LB trying to make you look like a cock and asking all other vendors not to trust you though right?

no, not sure what gave you that idea. I'd have that resolved way earlier in a much more peaceful, reasonable way. A ban is harsh, its just kids falling out and getting emotional about it.

And i had you classier than a downvoter tbh carver. nvm.

You don’t get to choose the outcome when it’s the vendor at fault unfortunately, you can try as much as you like to resolve like an adult but when the other party is acting like a 3 year old your efforts would be wasted. A ban isn’t harsh enough imo but suffice in this digital age, go and read the shit that happened dude I’m pretty sure you haven’t read the half of it.

Sorry to disappoint man, I down vote shit that doesn’t sit right with me and this isn’t a storm in a tea cup imo, it’s a cancer that will eventually blow up in someone’s face, hopefully not yours.

i generally pass through forums liked, so ill dismiss your negative possibilities. We have had an apology from one side, at very least, panch123 deserves con an apology. Then i guess everyone lives happily ever after. Thats a resolution, im not sure pouring hate looks good long term in these situations.

That's the way I see it too buddy.

Read a bit of it and people calling out other accounts that were clearly not sticky for being sticky. UK420 even came and verified this particular account was not sticky, but still the hounding continued - so it looks like some kinda witch hunt to me.

Cant pretend I'm aware of everything that was going on, but the first thing I looked into was clearly made up BS to discredit the vendor, so there definitely false accusations happening here and I would not support removing the vendor unless there's conclusive proof of serious wrong doing. Not saying their isn't, just saying i'm not seeing it.

It doesn’t stop other people getting stung. That’s the whole idea of lb

I've no dog in this fight but after reading the posts I can't see them being a trustworthy holder of anyone's address or details.

and that is the most worrying thing about dealing with lunatic vendors,but i have a hard mrs..let them come lol :)

I'm the same never even ordered off these guys but so glad I didnt after reading some the posts and seeing that there clearly using fake accounts to make themselves look better but anyway each to there own I stick to my trusted vendors

Making fake accounts to argue in their favour - which almost certainly also means fake reviews - should be an instant ban. It's intent is to deceive customers and that should never stand.

I'm voting yes purely based on the post I linked here. Awful.

'humanity reaches adulthood' is the title of this site, they should have read it and so should their friends/alts in this topic... trying to act like bad men on the internet and they just sound like spoilt 12year olds screaming slurs they don't even understand at their xbox's lmao it's so cringey, they even say "left wing" as an insult when they get angry like they're some fucking American troll wannabe what is going on?... hope the whole lot of them at least get kicked off the wall so I don't ever have to see their childish nonsense again. This isn't reddit/facebook/twitter or whatever shit people use these days.

Big up carver! :)

Vote yes to terminate after reading the linked thread...bad mojo!
Calling someone out for mental health issues while talking to themselves!!! Fucking classic that was lol

Well Done Carvs!

I Vote Carvs For Community Spokes Man! Lol :)

I don’t even want the job bro lol

Lol :D

What a scumbag seller

Honestly, I gotta say I’ve had nothing but positive vibes from StickyFingers. Ordered off them about 4 times now and the smoke has always been banging including the Cali he’s got up now, that shit is fire (expensive I know). Also had quite a few convos with them and they’ve always been happy to help and accommodate any requests. Obviously looks like someone at StickyFingers has had a complete meltdown over the last 48 hours but honestly give them a chance to fix it at least. Just my thoughts.

Maybe just sack the clown they’ve let loose on this platform.

iv had a few rows with vendors on here and i must admit my initial message would of been enough for the vendor to tell me to fuck right off..tbh thats what i was expecting but no they was calm which then made me calm and all problems have been sorted in a adult manner...these guys was my next port of call as some of their products look tip top but then i seen the topics on them and reviews..wow!!knowing how i am if im sold shit weed and i always give honest feedback but after seeing how these guys are with unhappy customers i simply carried on my search for that perfect vendor that suits me.you just cant go around mocking the way they have.not really the sort of shit you want to see on here....keep your shit in house

Can you please just post links to what you're talking about, there should be solid evidence of harm to do this to someone.

I believe sidetracked has linked the post. Nice one mate. Appalling behaviour from a couple of individuals. Although I feel there should be 2 up for a vote tbh

It's easy to find. The vendor posted a topic about a buyer. Screenshots of comments that should be from different accounts but from the vendor are all on there.
It's really pathetic what went on and how long it went on for. It also got way out of hand for what it was all about as well.

I don't even think votes even matter mate I honestly don't see the point in terminator bot, first with the vendors union now this.

Typical stoner, didn’t read the first line “This bot is defunct. Please use terminator borg” lol Water under the bridge now anyway I reckon mate!

Ah I see mate

Fuuuuuuuuuck little biggys went all facebook on us. Terrible way to deal withg a customer but also nothing happens if your offended steve hughes puts this wonderfully. Roll smoke smile love

If half of this is true then it shouldn't be on here. Any sources to backup the above though?

never mind.. didn't take long to find what you were referring to. if this is allowed to happen then this site is screwed.

This actually happened to the account i had before that one aswell, anyone else had this problem?? Any help greatly appriciated!! Ive not pissed anyone off as far as i can tell! And ive never had any problems on here :/

Please Help!!!

Couldn’t we help put him right instead of just kicking him out straight away? It’s a pretty complex initial setup up by all accounts and although this dude is doing everything wrong it’s a pretty harsh community that’s kicks someone out that quick!

Maybe a vendor could give him a little direction? That’s some class act vendors on here that could put him on the right path.

They kicked me out once for no reason. I'm not a threat. I'm an honest broker. Just trying to figure things out or am I too much compotition for some?

You’re not kicked out yet man, research the site there’s masses of content for you to swat up on. Seems you’re trying to rush yourself through the motions without being well informed to become a vendor and it won’t sit well with some.

Posting your mobile number in here though, wtf man lol

This is me rejoining. They kicked me out and deleted my account first time around. I will not post my number, websirmte or email until I get this thing set up properly. I have already serviced 30+ customers today, dispatched with tracking numbers so I am no Scammer trust me. I'll get set up on here as soon as possible so you guys do not miss out if your in the U.K and struggling for a reliable vendor. I'll be back in the morning with a fresh pair of eyes

There's no going back from that mate.

Posting outside website and email address, wanting all sales not to go through littlebiggy or escro wand offering a telephone number to ring

The account he is using for the items is "herbalisttea" he is responding to comments as "herbalist2020". The website is super dodgy and on one page the "contact email" is actually for a wood burning stove website.

No that was an old business. All customers from the site are happy. No complaints or refunds. Trust me everyone is happy, just not the paranoid ones in here?

What’s the old business? herbalist website or the wood burning stove website? and why would the two be put together

Second...put your stuff up

I'm trying to set up on here. Ill try again in the morning

if you try to take people away from little biggy to another site you get banned

It’s all safety measures so people can’t get scammed

The next tonystarkweed the scamming cunt

I would put all my sales through here if I could set it up. It's not letting me or I'm doing something wrong. Not too sure but I'm genuine and my products are all proper. Already sent over 30 parcels today to new and repeat customers. Trust me, you guys are missing out if your in the U.K and struggling to be supplied

Lol surely its a bit quick to judge herbalist 2020 yet??..for termination..surely.

Yeah seems like the guy may have got of on the wrong foot. But I think the verdier is still out on him actually scamming anyone. Maybe just needs to make acouple adjustments to become more ‘LB friendly’

Allrite agree give the chap a chance first, from what I’ve been reading he’s new doesn’t Know the ropes. Wait for the amendments/adjustments then judge, sure there will be some cheap samples to try to test the water.

Send me a few regulators postal addresses and I will send out a few free samples to calm people's nerves on here and show good will if this is a big enough market place where everything is running smoothly. 30 + tra ked parcels sent today. A few free sample giveaways are cool to settle the nay sayers

No scamming here. A true herbalist providing what the people of Britain need m. Too many paranoid people on here wow

I fucking hate scammers

I fucking hate scammers too

Never anger the Spock.

:)
Just can't stand scammers.

100% agree

Nah I totally agree man, it only takes one bad egg to spoil the omelette haha

Me too. My 30+ dispatches today are a welcome sign my customers are happy. I'll try set up again on here if I know how. You guys are missing out

Agreed. I don't believe his intentions were malicious or anything but this just doesn't seem like the way forward

Also don't think a vendors union is needed.

However I do like Vikosh posts and updates about vendor sales and all that stuff.

Hope they still keep coming.

Me too, when I first started using LB I went straight to the vendor's lidt that he updates weekly. Made my life easier and from reading a lot of the posts Vikosh has made I honestly think he is a decent guy / gal but the Union just seems a little unecessary. Now, I could be completely wrong, I am not a vendor (just a regular customer) but the way Sidetracked layed it out it did seems a little......suspect? Like asking new vendors to come to him / her first, that just seemed weird to me but I haven't been here that long so I may be in over my head. I love this place and don't do social media so this is the equivelant of my Facebook (as sad as that sounds) lol. Any opportunity to keep this little gem running the way it is and I'm all for it, as most members are, or so I would think.

Agreed. Vikosh contributes a lot but I don’t think the vendors union is a good idea

I hope not mate. I would like to hear that from Vikosh himself.

I agree.. Can't let LB be subject to a communist takeover

or anything else for that matter...

I second this.

If this dumb idea gets any traction at all it will be thanks to you :)

That said I really appreciate you calling this shit out.

Vikosh I hope you stay around and learn from this.

What a compelling read ;)

Isn't it though? It's like we are too many people now to not divide along some axis. But who would have thought it would be this mini East vs West shit?

How come it has not been terminated yet there are plenty votes against it.

I was wondering this too. Was about to ask lol. The fact it got voted to be terminated and is still up makes it seem fishy especially as it look's like that guy who was voted to be terminated after this was seems to have been cleared. Makes you wonder after all, eh?

I've always wondered how the termination works because of the potential problems of a sock puppet army.

Then there is the conflict with the prime directive of do no harm. What if the termination causes harm or if the terminated party is not causing harm?

That said I think this union is one of the most fundamentally idiotic ideas I have seem thrown up on these pages.

If sellers can't handle the general public and what that sometimes means they don't belong here or in any open forum. An authoritarian solution is disgusting on too many levels to count.

That makes sense, how about a couple more theories:

1 LB is a little bigger now, so this isnt a quorum.

2 the bot doesn't function anymore, its builders gone etc. I don't see a lot of bots like this mostly borgs.

I have never seen so many votes against something and still be here

using the curly braces in the page name to make it look like an lb group is not a great look either. my bet is lb validated out curly braces in the actual name which is why there are square braces used there.

Comments getting removed :) :) this place cracks me up

Which comments mate?

Can’t remember now it was on this thread topic , completely gone with another comment not from me ,very strange , biggy world I soppose

Is Vikosh79 terminator bot by any chance? because this looks dodgy now it has 51 votes against it how many more does it need lol

What it needs most is a rebuttal, if you look at Vikosh's post he seems quite capable of this, he is actually an exceptionally thoughtful bigga.

I don't have enough to vote on, in the meantime this is a much healthier drama than ronald season 19.

Send a message to the borgs and see if you can find out, it seems I'm not able to.

How do you vote for termination mate?

Just vote this post up if you are for it, vote it down if you are against

That simple ay! Lol. I’m with you on this man. I don’t trust his intentions

He just keeps voting my posts down instead of responding, says it all really mate.

Yeah it does. You’ve caught him out in my eyes. I had no idea he sold buddy vendor packs. Sneaky.
He should be open and clarifying peoples worries if it was so genuine. For me it’s a complete conflict of interests anyway. No one person should have the power he’s trying to achieve on here. He’s already kind of getting away with it. With his only contact me shit. It’s not on.

So far THIS has been his only response. Doesn't really say much sadly.

They are talking about listing them Suboxone what help with getting of heroin they can make you overdose loads of people in uk jails take them

Unreal...drugs can seriously mess lives up and opiates are probably the worst

I know too well what they do and it’s not nice to watch

This place is getting outta hand...what’s next? Fentanyl? This is meant to be a peaceful place not a place of predatory drug dealers...!?

He didnt know exactly what they were so i explained it to him they are well known in the uk

That’s even worse lol

In America there is more deaths from these pescription drugs than there is off illegal drugs its so easy to get them pescribed in America

It’s a problem in the uk now sorry to say....fentanyl, heroin, Valium etc it’s here and it’s a problem

Uk police will all soon be equipped with the drug to reverse opioid overdose...it’s got to that stage

valium has been offered on the society for years... eti is just an altnernative, especially for folks who suffer with anixety and panic attacks.

i have been legally prescribed benzos my entire adult life to manage my mental illness and never once had any problems. i limit my consumption, though. anything can be used responsbility or hapzardly. it isn't eti and valium which are inherrently bad... it is always the individual and how he/she uses a substance. i know plenty of people who abuse even the most benign of substances (weed) and they allow it to consume their life.

from the research i've read and speaking on my own account, eti's dependence/withdrawal is much more mild than something like xanax.

the other huge benefit to eti is for folks' who are liable to random drug screens. eti is molecularly different in comparison to a traditional benzo. virtually no drug screen is going to test for eti. this is very helpful for people who struggle with anxiety but are afraid to fail a drug test.

i totally agree NO opioids. they are truly nasty. rastaman educated me on suboxone... i thought subs were supposed to be helpful in relieving addiction from pain killers. i had NO idea how awful they are. i was wrong for my ignorance and i apologize.

a huge thank you and thumbs up to rastaman, who was very polite and informative. i appreciate your help and i appreciate you doing it in a very kind way. thanks, brother.

Don’t take it personally I don’t mean to offend

You can justify benzodiazepines all you want but facts are facts.

Even when used as prescribed there is problems and they are usually prescribed for short term as a last resort because of the known problems

I personally benefit greatly from benzodiazepines but they are no good in long run. They alter your mood in a negative way, they’re are addictive, they make you forgetful which increases chances of redosing or overdosing, losing shit getting frustrated, risk taking behaviour....etc

Not too mentioned being rubbered increases chances of accidents and endangering yourself and people around you

They’re bad news

Hey thanks for being so kind. I appreciate the fact that we can have a conversation on the internet which doesn’t dissolve into a hate-spewing contest. Sadly, that’s most of the internet.

You bring up some good points and I can’t refute them. I wish there was a healthier alternative for me but I’ve been through the ringer and tried every known potential legal drug for my anxiety but sadly benzos are the only thing that have ever provided me relief. I do want to try a microdose, though. I haven’t tried it but all I hear are amazing reviews.

I feel for ya

Microdose...have you ever dosed?

Wow wee how I can testify for psychedelics, don’t even know where to start.

Now the answers are not in the drugs they are in ourselves. Some drugs block it out as we know but with psychedelics it’s the complete opposite...you’re gona feel whatever it is on a magnitude that goes off the describable scale!

I could write a small book based on my own personal experience but I digress

You can obtain liberation through the psychotherapeutic benefits of the psychedelics but to get to heaven you must first go through hell

Man I wish I could try it right now! I've never dosed... micro or full. I only know 1 person in real life who sources lsd but I wouldn't know how to accurately measure my dosing. I think there is someone on here who has shrooms. I am legit going to be placing an order soon to give it a go. To be honest I am hopeful but also scared. I can't even handle edibles - they fucking terrified me when I tried them years ago, lol. Thank you for your the thoughtful and considerate response. You've really got me thinking now.

Certainly do your research, start small and maybe start with mushrooms before lsd

You can always do more if you feel up to it but you can’t undo hence start small

can you message me privately? need some help/input/advice. thanks, man.

I'm really glad somebody has taken steps to do this because I'm relatively new but have already seen so many of his racist, sexist, homophobic and just generally vile and rude comments. This is the guy who attacked somebody and told them to "go back to their own country" because he suspected that English wasn't their first language, WTF?! It's a shame cause 99% of people on here seem really genuine & approachable but this guy is just straight up offensive. And there is ZERO room for 'devil's advocacy' when it comes to shit like racism, sexism and homophobia.

There are plenty of genuine great humans here, don't let the vocal minority skew your view of this wonderful community. Ignore the negative energy and interact with the positive, you'll find this place brilliant in no time.

Thank you! So far, it's my new favourite place!

Why would someone say I’m going to bring this site down is beyond me. Talk about pissing everyone off at the same time.
Heisenbeard is an over opinionated cunt, he knows that.
But this is a whole new level of cuntyness.
You had a few good grows, doesn’t make you dr.greenspoon does it. Doesn’t mean you can talk to people like that either man. No one needs uneducated hate/racism in their life. You have now alienated yourself for simply being a cunt.
Apologise man. The best thing for you to do is show some humility, admit you went over board and Don’t let it happen again. Carverr is well in his rights man with it all over his page.

While I have only had very limited interactions with yourself and HeisenBeard, allow me to play Devil's advocate.

Firstly, if this is successful and they do ban him, what's to stop him from coming back with multiple accounts with the sole intentions of making your life worse and trolling you even further on LB?

I don't think he was being serious when he said he would bring the site down. I think HB just likes to wind people up and if you react then you're giving him what he wants?

Now while I don't agree with all the stuff he has said I think it's fair advice to say take everything with a pinch of salt, especially when it comes to dealing with strangers on an illegal website lol.

Rather than go any further, why don't you just restrict him from your page / posts? Or better yet, why don't you two just leave all this shit go and start fresh, life is too short for this nonsense gents.

I won't be voting as I have had no bad interactions with HB and honestly, I do just think he is saying all this because he is bored and wants a reaponse (though I could be wrong lol).

Nobody enjoys being trolled or harassed though, regardless of intent, so if ye can't squash this and become friends then why bit just be civil and avoid eachother?

Hope you're well Carverr and hope all this gets sorted.

I’d question any form of devil’s advocacy with this level of racism, homophobia and threats of posting people’s personal information. I see where you’re coming from but we get nowhere fast just sitting back, condoning and accepting this level of hate speech.

That's a fair point mate. It's easy for me to sit here and offer solutions as it's not happening to me but you may have been dealing with this far longer than I know of and you're well entitled to feel how you do. I shall respectfully bow out and hope this all gets sorted. All the best bud

I’m totally on board with the sentiment of your post bro, you’re obviously a good cunt.

I do strive to be a good cunt when I can. Having said that I'm also a prick when I want to be....apparently -.- lol

Second this. He’s a wind up merchant who’s took it too far. I hope it all ends without him getting banned.
He’s alright once you get past the cunt stage lol.
He shouldn’t be racist though man it’s not nice to read yet alone have to tolerate. Hopefully he will apologise to the guy he was racist too not only carverr. Kiss and make up everyone cmon

Being a cunt and being a racist, homophobic, bully boy cunt are very different things. Most of my mates are complete and utter cunts, but they’re good cunts, massive difference ;)

Yea you are right mate. I’m not trying to justify him by any means. It was disgusting what he said no one should have to get that kind of abuse. He doesn’t represent the smokers mentality at all. I would just like to see him man up apologise and clean up his act. There always chance for redemption. I’m not down playing what he’s done by any means

I agree there’s no place for racist homophobic comments on here it’s disgusting and pure ignorant. Guys got serious issues He should apologise or fuck of.. abit like Dominic Cummings lol

Completely agree mate. Racism is an ugly trait that nobody should posess / spread. Hopefully this blows over quickly and we can all move on. To quote the Simpsons - "Somebody PLEASE think of the children!!"

I think he gone already

Splendid :)