I don't know the science but I have extensive experience with both and hands down modafanil feels way healthier than adderall. Way easier to sleep, less jittery and less addictive.

The Science backs you up G, modafinil is a hystamine and adderall is an amphetamine, the latter is way more fucked on your body and addictive.

Agreed adderall is very very intense keeps you on your edge all day but does enhance memory imo deffo ain’t worth it

1st onset is like limitless, you feel a command of your mind that is unique. never felt like that again for me but it does give me a really strong momentum on whatever i want to do.

I did and I missed it tbh. Not so much for the focus but for awareness feeling when it first kicks in. That said glad I took a break.

I take classes and still have shit to get done

Try noopept, it will get you out of the house, elevate your mode and give you the healthy break g.

Anyone here have noopept?

kinda stopped after all the lockdowns

I just did after near daily use for months and I felt bad for 6 days max. I can't say I missed it a lot and used the time to experiment with other nootropics especially the racetams. I will start the semester all healthy with noopept and then start slipping in the moda when studies start heating up.

did you find any ?

What are the side effects of modafinil?

Of course it varies and if you want a link with a mind-numbing list like the end of a drug commercial, I've added one below. However to be more helpful I will characterize the side effects into major effects for most people. All of this multiplies in the face of other stimulants including caffeine.

Psychological
Though modafinil can initially be somewhat euphoric and social, it is inevitably neither. Regular use is likely to make you impatient and easily irritated.

Pulmonary
Modafinil can increase or throw off your heart beat. If you have any pathology here it could be a serious matter; stay away, it's not a well researched area yet. Otherwise don't freak out, just dose down at the first sign of a rapid or trembling heart beat..

Sex
A helper for neither foreplay nor ejaculation.

Coordination
Modafinil will not win any Olympic Medals, it builds a rhythm suitable to concentration, not athletic flow.

Cramps
Modafanil can cause fingers and toes to lock up, a very scary phenomena at first yet not shown to be anything particularly life threatening. Take it as a sign to back off and consider alternative nootropics.

A large population will experience none of this, don't be surprised if you are not experiencing side effects and don't let their absence be a rationale for over use.

Find better natural nootropics. A building block L Tyrosine, Siberian Ginseng - so many so much better with less side effects and less problems.

What is the correct dosage for my first time using modafinil?

It depends what you are using it for and how you plan to move forward.

If you are a shift worker or have chronic fatigue syndrome you are going to want to manage for long term effects, you'll be taking it up to 5 times a week (always take a couple of days off) and you want to get away with the minimal dose that will keep you awake, that's going to be 200mg for most people but 400mg is possible after a month of usage. taking more than this is serious business, even with a relatively benign drug like moda, make sure you have the medical history for this especially cardio health and monitor closely.

if you are taking moda for an exam or project a 1/2 (100 mg) will get you through a day if you don't eat much; a full 200 mg is ok, don't do more without an a.d.d. diagnosis.

whatever you do stay away from caffeine and other stimulants.

You're right, you don't know shit. What if the red/purple stuff is bad?

Apparently not

"Clinical trials on humans involving taking up to 1200 mg/day for 7–21 days and known incidents of acute one-time overdoses up to 4500 mg did not appear to cause life-threatening effects, although a number of adverse experiences were observed, including excitation or agitation, insomnia, anxiety, irritability, aggressiveness, confusion, nervousness, tremor, palpitations, sleep disturbances, nausea, and diarrhoea."

As of 2004, the FDA is not aware of any fatal overdoses involving modafinil alone (as opposed to multiple drugs, including modafinil).

There's a first for everything, the thing to keep in mind is that modafinil does not have a very long track record. Odds are that 1 day someone will die from modafinil abuse. How? Maybe they have a heart condition they dont known about and they stay awake for days at a time thinking that its sustainable.

Another possibility to OD is through a mix of moda and other substances, the combination of which is not well tested. If anyone has any doubt about this stuff just come to this biggy and we will all try and help sort it out.

The amount someone would have to take for such a long time is incredible. There are serious risks to taking anything in excessive doses. Plus, one should always test very small amounts first to see how their body reacts, especially if not part of a doctor-advised regimen.

No or it wouldn't be here

Did anyone get chosen to test the batch? Anyone get anything shipped to them?

Me pleeeeeeease

I have been taking modafanil for at least 3 years, and consider myself a good judge of the product. I have tried different companies before settling on what I take now. Please message me as I would be interested in being in your test group. Thank you, Zippysmom

very interested in being a test subject

Will test

What is Waklert 150? And a 300ct? I’m not sure if this is a stupid question.

Armodafinil. 300 tablets.

Yes please, I'm interested

Hey, I'm interested in hearing more. Cheers.

Messaged!

Ship to Europe Netherlands, weird right, willing to send a sample, to see if ,I get through? PM me.

If you said it was for improving focus that's what's going to happen unless you have an independent minded doctor. Moda prescriptions are for narcolepsy since this is what it has been tested for.

Not to mention (well actually *to* mention) adderall is promoted to doctors and moda is not. Follow the money.

cost. they start you on lowest cost, each pill has to be rejected b/c of side effects. Provigil costs $1500/mo.

#dreamdoctor

If you straight up say your issue is narcolepsy you can get the moda scrip.

This isn't so unusual in the drug world, no one new how aspirin worked for a century.

True, if the symptoms subsided, then that was the cure back then. The history of Aspirin is interesting, First used 1000s of years ago to relieve pain and has been refined and enhanced since, just like another plant that springs to mind ;-)

Well we know it increases histamine and this makes you alert.

So does speed an coke

How did it get developed without an idea of this?

The cumulative effects of modafinil are not well known though there is some evidence that it builds up neuron protection, modulates circadian rhythms and produces advantages for cognitive development. Personally I don't think these effects are so terrific that they outweigh the possible negative side effects which are also kind of hazy and unproven.

Dependency. Afinil is a great thing, and fairly benign but like anything else if you get used to it's effects you get tolerance and psychological (not physical) addiction.

I would say less extremes, I was often euphoric as an occasional user but also more short tempered according to my boyfriend. As a full time user it's more like a cleaner, more effective coffee habit, I have consistent energy don't crash in the afternoon but otherwise it's kinf of uneventful.

I love moda but can't imagine daily use it seems like it would lose it's effects and you would be back where you started.

Sounds like you are not on the tough end of the ADHD spectrum. For me daily use is more like the difference between things working well vs struggling.

Can you imagine daily caffeine use? Then you are 75% there. Now imagine skipping a day and think how you feel or picture having an extra cup or 2 for a busy day.

Now give this up cold or take one tomorrow thats daily use right there.

I have been taking modafinil and armodafinil for around 6 months and I have been partaking in the canna for around 20 years. I have held of on smoking for the day and took moda in the morning so I have done it without getting elevated.

Moda usually makes me alert and aware and canna lazy as fuck but creative.

I have been eating edibles a lot lately and am currently on a nice dose of medicated peanut butter and 150mg of flmodafinil. It is almost like a war between the two since one is an upper and the other is a downer. I feel very ready to get shit done and creative. But I still get distracted and end up writing stuff like this.

In my opinion I dont think they have any negative effects when combined. They may cancel each other out to an extent but all in all I like the feeling even though I wish I was playing a game instead of working, and maybe had some gummies.

Side note on flmodafinil: I bought this before I ran out of armodafinil as backup after reading it was a lot stronger and most dose at around 50mg. It did not seem to impressive at 50mg, 75mg or 100mg. Today I took 150mg and it was like the first time taking a full armodafinil. Going to get more Armodafinil though as it seems more reliable.

As far as the cannabis goes it sounds like Indica, do you use sativa? It's the opposite of lazy for most people.

I sativa when I can find it. Just seems like most everything is hybrid anymore. Used to grow a few nice sativa strains that I wish I still had.

Interesting, sativa doesn't energize you?

I would not say that it energizes me per se. It is more so like it does not make me lazy like a heavy indica would. I do like sativa strains they just seem like getting a straight sativa or indica is getting harder and harder. There are just so many hybrids out there.

I think it's great if you know your rhythm with both. The cycles are pretty different, especially if you are smoking your cannabis.

I take edible cannabis 3 times a week and moda 3 to 4 times a week. Never really on the same day unless i started it with an early moda and a late afternoon edible then a night out. It seems pretty sustainable, some weeks I go a little more or less on either.

More like cannabis / modafinil.

You mean like alternating don't you

He means he's modastoned

Anyone ever tried alpha brain or lions mane ?

lions mane is a great idea for most people, like vitamins for your brain. and a nice complement to cannabis imho

Thanks bud . I just recently found out about it. Gonna order some and try it for a few months.

I keep asking for them at my vitamin store and they act like Im nuts.

This is basically a send up on anything that can be considered a "cognitive enhancer" - except for some reason amphetamines. I wonder who funded this study.

Doesn't matter who funded it, we count an adversarial systems to find truths. I'm a moda user and it makes intuitive sense to me, focus is the antithesis of plasticity.

Sorry, what is brain plasticity?

Its basically the progamability of a brain

1 Weed is good at the end of the moda trip, an indica is very soothing, when i don't feel like getting trippy I'll use a CBD strain.

2 It's not the same natural feel of cannabis but there really isn't anything I would call toxic at all.

3 Yes

Well put sir I would add that a little sativa actually works well with moda for me but I don't want to get too manic or unfocused so I am pretty conservative, like 1 hit is plenty.

There used to be a guy here selling hangover cures I always thought who needs that when you have modafinil.

40 hours seems to be a common thing, reports of 60 hours or more appear significant.

Depends on what mode I am in. If I am exercising and eating healthy, not drinking I can get 36 hours with not too much payback. If I am on the other end of the spectrum an all nighter is it.

I'm hopeless at staying awake, always the 1st to fall asleep. With modafanil I can pull an all nighter and not be a freak show until 4 in the afternoon the next day. For me that is insane.

I take modafinil in the morning, 4 days a week. It never seems to keep me awake but I do notice that on the secomd day of not taking moda I have a worse nights sleep.

reddit pretty much outlawed the afinil sub when the american government started holding them liable for content. Rex posted that his account was cancelled, you can see it on his page.

Yeah they killed r/darknetmarkets at the same time.

The mods all sell competing nootropics so they steer people away from modafinil with bad experience threads, bad batch shit and the like. Yes it was a cool place a long time ago with people like Gwern making interesting posts but even then it was corrupt as hell.

Not if you care about your liver. Adrafinil is basically modafinil after it is processed by your liver. Skip this process and save your liver by using modfanil instead.

I like adrafinil because it comes in a powder and that makes for better dosage control.

Only if you have time though, if you don't take the time tablets wind up being more consistent. Ive learned this shit the hard way

Imagine having to read all those papers moda is perfect for cranking out the shit exactly like this

Because it's bad news for the amphetamine industry and they have more money to bribe doctors and legislators.

Sports! I have had the *worst* experiences like breaking bones and twitching and generally starting to freak myself into a heart attack simulation!

Whoah, wtf?

Really, it's like there's an afnil rythm that effects heartbeat and other rythms and it desynchronizes you from sports.

I would say socializing with small groups of people like family and people that know you well. With bigger crowds I think it actually helps with strangers.

The weirdest thing I've noticed is you will start to smell it in your piss pretty strong, well hella remind you of the moment you took one

Yeah I get the "asparagus effect" every now and then :)

I just finished my first dozen or so capsules of Modafinil after first learning about it here. All in all I would say its been a quite good experience. My only tip for the peeps is don't gauge your experience on your 1st or second dose. For me these experiences were like a recreational drug, pretty amazing even like "Limitless" a bit. Doses 3 through 5 were actually disappointing, the euphoria and sense of being in control of the universe disappeared and I was anxious, maybe just from being bummed. After that things kind of stabilized and now I just feel more alert and focused like the man says. I will continue using a couple of times a week until I have a holiday from work.