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w4wendetta
The factory workers who fought fascism from Glasgow
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w4wendetta
The factory workers who fought fascism from Glasgow
"When Scots refused to service Chileโs jet fighters after the 1973 military coup, their protest all but grounded the air force"
A great reminder that we all have triggers to change world once we are determined and united.
A great reminder that we all have triggers to change world once we are determined and united.
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at tes
If we don't need authority for trust what do we need it for?
I think there's a problem with the word authority. Some authorities are voluntarily recognised by people as experts so their opinions are amplified. Seems like a really good thing.
The other kind is an authority imposing power upon you through a monopoly, usually a monopoly on violence.
The other kind is an authority imposing power upon you through a monopoly, usually a monopoly on violence.
Humans should trust humans.
If we don't trust human beings who are we going to trust?
If we don't trust human beings who are we going to trust?
I am
Sure the Incas took that view until the conquistadors arrived. Humans screw humans more now than any time in history
Sure the Incas took that view until the conquistadors arrived. Humans screw humans more now than any time in history
2 posts
+2 votes
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theStrokes
what if they go nuclear?
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theStrokes
what if they go nuclear?
the people with their fingers on the button are increasingly crazy and there are more of them every year.
10,000 hiroshimas in each bomb @ current tech.
10,000 hiroshimas in each bomb @ current tech.
45 posts
+105 votes
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bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
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bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
I don't want to give preference to someone the same color as me so why should I prefer someone for being born in the same country as me (or worse they are ordained a citizen by some twat)?
Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.
Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.
Please dont have the idea that all Scots want independence
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.
The whole SNP "independence" thing is a facade.
The SNP want to leave our union and join the EU club because they'll give them more money than Westminster does.
They still want to be financially "dependent", just a more generous sugar daddy.
I'm talking about the SNP, not all Scots :)
The SNP want to leave our union and join the EU club because they'll give them more money than Westminster does.
They still want to be financially "dependent", just a more generous sugar daddy.
I'm talking about the SNP, not all Scots :)
High Raskolnikov. Your post showed as a comment on mine so You're addressing me, then. I have no intention of stating anything about what Scots want. My point is that I consider an English Independence Referendum is incumbent on ourselves to determine our Englishness without the input of the other three nations. Devolution, revolution, phooey! We want ablution. Wash our hands of the lot of you. Do we? Who does? Has anyone got this underway? Sturgeon and Salmond? Something fishy about those two!
I am British not Scottish or Welsh or Irish or English but British.
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.
Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.
She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.
I am British loud and proud !!!
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.
Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.
She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.
I am British loud and proud !!!
I’m British and Scottish mate. Think it is possible to be both. I’m not interested in Independence and believe it will not happen and will be a disaster if it does. In Scotland Salmond courted a certain block vote and got it. That is what has got the snp to where they are. That and shortbread tin thinking. They will soon want to let over 14 s vote. As I said in another post, Scottish Independence is not the endgame for a lot of snp.
I wouldn’t blame the English people if they started to see things this way but we are still all better as a union and I think you know this. Sturgeon and Salmond are just typical politicians mate who lying is a big part of the job description. There has been a huge change in Scotland in my lifetime where the working class vote has moved away from labour to the snp. Labour has shot themselves in the foot so many times but also the snp politics has changed. I have been on this earth a long time and the snp have changed so much. Sturgeon is still using her bloody daily briefing up here to try to indoctrinate the nation. I’m going to stop here as I am ranting.
Not English, then. To be born an Englishman is to win first prize in the lottery of life. That life being the infliction of Imperialism on 25% of the world's population. Nothing wrong with that, was there?
Sturgeon's manifesto was just a wish list, impossible to accomplish. I don't want Scotland to leave. We may rib each other on things but I'd like to think we have each others back when things get tough. We live on the same island. Crazy to break up.
It was a joke mate but fuck, Vietnam. Is that what you are comparing Scottish Independence to?
lol. ok, i'll bite...
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.
Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.
Proper kettle of fish this one! but I couldn’t resist throwing my 2 cents in.
Racism is an inherent belief that one group are superior to another based purely on membership to said group; that for example being white would mean that you are superior to non-whites by virtue of your whiteness. Although this is of course the most common example, it’s important to remember that racism has been perpetrated by, and against, a multitude of groups such as the current situation in China with Uighur Muslims and so on.
Nationalism is the identification with ones nation and the desire to see that nation succeed. often, but not exclusively, to the detriment of other nations.
One can be a nationalist but not a racist, but I would argue that it’s quite rare to meet a racist who is not also a nationalist.
I don’t think nationalism is always a bad thing - we saw for example at the onset of COVID-19 in Europe a large degree of nationalism as all of these countries that are part of the Schengen Agreement suddenly conveniently ignored the treaty in order to shut their borders and protect their citizens (uselessly, as it turned out) against the spread of C19.
However, nationalist sentiment needs to be controlled carefully because the downside to it could be seen, you could argue, In the Capitol siege/riots on January 6th as nationalist fervour tends to spread and morph very rapidly and almost always ends in violence and almost always ends in Fascism
Sorry for the wall of text but this is such a fascinating topic!
Racism is an inherent belief that one group are superior to another based purely on membership to said group; that for example being white would mean that you are superior to non-whites by virtue of your whiteness. Although this is of course the most common example, it’s important to remember that racism has been perpetrated by, and against, a multitude of groups such as the current situation in China with Uighur Muslims and so on.
Nationalism is the identification with ones nation and the desire to see that nation succeed. often, but not exclusively, to the detriment of other nations.
One can be a nationalist but not a racist, but I would argue that it’s quite rare to meet a racist who is not also a nationalist.
I don’t think nationalism is always a bad thing - we saw for example at the onset of COVID-19 in Europe a large degree of nationalism as all of these countries that are part of the Schengen Agreement suddenly conveniently ignored the treaty in order to shut their borders and protect their citizens (uselessly, as it turned out) against the spread of C19.
However, nationalist sentiment needs to be controlled carefully because the downside to it could be seen, you could argue, In the Capitol siege/riots on January 6th as nationalist fervour tends to spread and morph very rapidly and almost always ends in violence and almost always ends in Fascism
Sorry for the wall of text but this is such a fascinating topic!
a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.
Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.
Yes you could look into the SNPs distant past or alternatively you could look at what the Tories are doing right now as we speak under your very nose.
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!
Because we can change our nationality as it’s make believe. You cannot change your DNA which is real
Not synonymous, but it's an interesting point.
In some sense, I think it is an individual and academic choice to be patriotic (even that is turned into a dirty word now), root for your country or be proud of it voxally. It's OK to like your country if you really do. You do live there after all. It's just a country. Other countries are not minorities in their own country as the British are not here.
As you allude to, it is a lottery, not a skill, being British (or Irish for that matter). There is little merit to being "proud" I agree. But it doesn't oppress anyone or anything in itself. It is a way to preserving culture and way of life. You can't pick who you think should be able to do that.
Otherwise, the takeaway is, only the oppressed are allowed to be proud of anything and preserve culture. What kind of world is that?
I do think that no matter what, being proud of your race is pointless, stupid and divisive.
It suggests a nexus between a superiority or exceptionality and racial group.
After all, skin colour is decided only by a few alleles in the genome and indicates very little about one's charachter.
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In some sense, I think it is an individual and academic choice to be patriotic (even that is turned into a dirty word now), root for your country or be proud of it voxally. It's OK to like your country if you really do. You do live there after all. It's just a country. Other countries are not minorities in their own country as the British are not here.
As you allude to, it is a lottery, not a skill, being British (or Irish for that matter). There is little merit to being "proud" I agree. But it doesn't oppress anyone or anything in itself. It is a way to preserving culture and way of life. You can't pick who you think should be able to do that.
Otherwise, the takeaway is, only the oppressed are allowed to be proud of anything and preserve culture. What kind of world is that?
I do think that no matter what, being proud of your race is pointless, stupid and divisive.
It suggests a nexus between a superiority or exceptionality and racial group.
After all, skin colour is decided only by a few alleles in the genome and indicates very little about one's charachter.
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Racism is necessarily exclusionary. But Nationalism isn't.
In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.
In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.
I think it is oxytocin that causes the problems as it creates aggressive in-grouping, be it from the innateness from skin colour or the innateness from where someone was born.
There was a study I linked to but there is more out there about the dark side of oxytocin. There was quite a few articles in the dumber section of media about giving men oxytocin to fix their aggression problems when in fact it might be a major factor in causing them.
There was a study I linked to but there is more out there about the dark side of oxytocin. There was quite a few articles in the dumber section of media about giving men oxytocin to fix their aggression problems when in fact it might be a major factor in causing them.
Nationalism has more positive range for example promoting culture. Racism is usually associated with negative feelings about other races.
They both seem doomed if you ask me.
They both seem doomed if you ask me.
only in touchy feely places like the uk ... not in most other countrys ... too much self hatred in this country ...
There seem to be a prevailing perspective of an individualistic view on what racism is, i.e. the hatred or superiority of another race, nation, or ethnicity, however this view is overly simplistic as racism is structural and systemic and is only dependent on the individual when their actions are supported by the larger system.
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.
https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.
https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html
I'm a nationalist. I want England and all our major cities to be English and not resemble Bangladesh. That makes one a racist nowadays.
If the reason you give for those cities resembling Bangladesh is people of other races, that's kinda the definition of racism. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a closet racist.
If it's the colour of people's skin you're referring to, and you're suggesting you have to be white to be regarded as english, then yes, you are. Not just nowadays, always.
SHARIA LAW THROUGH THE BACK DOOR.
PRAY FOR THE SCOTS
If you do not care for a religion that could be perceived as disrespect by a certain demographic and could land you in prison in Scotland from the 1st of April.
Freedom of speech removed arrested for upsetting your house guest.
Modern day blasphemy.
Wake up Biggaz!
PRAY FOR THE SCOTS
If you do not care for a religion that could be perceived as disrespect by a certain demographic and could land you in prison in Scotland from the 1st of April.
Freedom of speech removed arrested for upsetting your house guest.
Modern day blasphemy.
Wake up Biggaz!
I've been on LB for many years now, and like to purchase from many different sellers.
There are a couple of sellers on here who I would loved to have tried their products, but, due to them wading into arguments, political posts and general twattery, I would find it morally impossible to do so.
I'm not having a pop, but as as a fully paid up member of a minority who suffers daily persecution for the way I choose to live, I only deal with kind people who either show empathy or better still, say nothing if they have nothing nice to say.
I'm sure I'm not alone.......
There are a couple of sellers on here who I would loved to have tried their products, but, due to them wading into arguments, political posts and general twattery, I would find it morally impossible to do so.
I'm not having a pop, but as as a fully paid up member of a minority who suffers daily persecution for the way I choose to live, I only deal with kind people who either show empathy or better still, say nothing if they have nothing nice to say.
I'm sure I'm not alone.......
The irony is Islam is all about conservatism. The so called protected characteristics are not just religion they are sex, age and others. So yeah I donโt think sharia law would be protective of non-binary unicorns.
Again Dopey your prejudice shines through seems like you are obsessed with Muslims, did one shag your wife or something?
Again Dopey your prejudice shines through seems like you are obsessed with Muslims, did one shag your wife or something?
If you do not wish for another persons belief it can be perceived as hurtful and you can be arrested.
So if you offend a religion for example that is punishable under new laws modern day blasphemy which is currently being used in Pakistan and is punishable by death in some cases exactly what is starting in Scotland and JK Rowling lives in Edinburgh and is already preparing legally against this draconian law.
For example quite recently in a city in Pakistan a women from the UAE was shopping in a dress with arabic words so a crowd of over 300 men surrounded her as they thought they were holy words from the Quran. They were going to behead her right there.
So if you offend a religion for example that is punishable under new laws modern day blasphemy which is currently being used in Pakistan and is punishable by death in some cases exactly what is starting in Scotland and JK Rowling lives in Edinburgh and is already preparing legally against this draconian law.
For example quite recently in a city in Pakistan a women from the UAE was shopping in a dress with arabic words so a crowd of over 300 men surrounded her as they thought they were holy words from the Quran. They were going to behead her right there.
Youโre not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? Mixing your political views on here whilst trying to do business is stupid. I havenโt bought anything from and definitely wonโt be in the future.
Dam I will cancel that remortgage now ๐ as I wonโt be getting your custom.
When are all you gen z lot going to get to work and start contributing to society? Instead of running round with Lenin posters and by the way he was responsible for over 12 million deaths.
I care about the state of my nation and have a right to voice my opinion I am sorry that you have been taught that you can identify as any thing and that you have all been raised as BEETA there needs to be yeng and yang not Sam and Sam.
When are all you gen z lot going to get to work and start contributing to society? Instead of running round with Lenin posters and by the way he was responsible for over 12 million deaths.
I care about the state of my nation and have a right to voice my opinion I am sorry that you have been taught that you can identify as any thing and that you have all been raised as BEETA there needs to be yeng and yang not Sam and Sam.
Scotland's new Hate Crime Act would send top Scots comics like Billy Connolly 'to the Gulag'
Sorry but quoting the English tory propaganda hate rag to a Scot is not going to make us believe anything they say.
And as for this post i find it amusing just how thick some of you English are.
Instead of being concerned about us Scots you should be more concerned that your upper class twits have sold your asses out to the yankee big corporations and are above your English law so you cant touch them.
When it comes to political intelligence you lot are at the bottom of the pile fighting the yanks for dumbest.
Prove me wrong English rise up and fling all your criminal politicians in prison take back your sovereignty as a people,free the home nations from the undemocratic UK (that includes your nation dumbasses) and create your own parliament.
You cant want to know why because the 1707 treaty of union strips you Englishmen of your sovereignty and enshrines it in Westminster meaning your upper class twits can do as they please in your name and only us sovereign Scots can free you hence why they took away our parliament and rigged the 2014 referendum.
But hey dont worry you can always pretend your vote actually matters.
And as for this post i find it amusing just how thick some of you English are.
Instead of being concerned about us Scots you should be more concerned that your upper class twits have sold your asses out to the yankee big corporations and are above your English law so you cant touch them.
When it comes to political intelligence you lot are at the bottom of the pile fighting the yanks for dumbest.
Prove me wrong English rise up and fling all your criminal politicians in prison take back your sovereignty as a people,free the home nations from the undemocratic UK (that includes your nation dumbasses) and create your own parliament.
You cant want to know why because the 1707 treaty of union strips you Englishmen of your sovereignty and enshrines it in Westminster meaning your upper class twits can do as they please in your name and only us sovereign Scots can free you hence why they took away our parliament and rigged the 2014 referendum.
But hey dont worry you can always pretend your vote actually matters.
libtard lmao are you a piece of crap illiterate yank hmm or a wanna be.
You can forget ever getting any custom off me since it is you who is the racist
You can forget ever getting any custom off me since it is you who is the racist
Eh no that was advice but hey just from the choice of your name i can see you are not too bright.
I dont hate English people some of them are my best mates but man when it comes to politics they get spoon fed tory crap from birth or worse think Labour are for the people haha what a fucking joke they are the tory second party.
I dont hate English people some of them are my best mates but man when it comes to politics they get spoon fed tory crap from birth or worse think Labour are for the people haha what a fucking joke they are the tory second party.
Son i sailed around the world as a young man took Aya with Shamen,smoked weed and hash in places you have never heard off,married a Kiwi and my daughter is aTahitian since she was born there and i am a grandad of two English girls since my daughter married a nice Englishman.
And that is the first sensible thing you have said on this thread.
And that is the first sensible thing you have said on this thread.
Some of us are only English by birth, and would choose to change that if a time machine were to exist.
Slavery still exists in the UK on a massive scale,but, now it's labelled as a "cost of living" crisis.
If you go to work, and the only things you get in return is shelter and food, that in itself is slavery.
If you go to work, and the only things you get in return is shelter and food, that in itself is slavery.
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is the coronavirus bio warfare?
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doctor doc
is the coronavirus bio warfare?
if there is a simple effective way to win the economy back from china this it. the technology is there, the motive and so is the will in the american government.
You lot having been hitting the ganja too hard! It’s simple biology that caused this outbreak. When living things breed their dna is copied but this isn’t a perfect process and sometimes errors in this process causes mutations. Where viral generations can be a matter of minutes rather than years microbial life is much more susceptible to mutations such as becoming more virulent and resistant to existing medicine. Or as is suspected in this outbreak a type of virus may live happily in a certain species of animal without causing harm but a mutation allows it to cross the species barrier and infect humans, but where humans aren’t it’s usual host it can cause harm. Unfortunately this is more common in areas where bush meat is traded because your going to get a range of different animal diseases that may cross the species barrier and there’s no biohazard control like you would get in an abattoir. Seriously, linking Coronavirus with 5g and the royals!? Why not throw in reptilians for good measure? Posts like this make me weep for humanity.
Is it a coincidence that the only level 4 biological research in China is in Wuhan, was studying Coronaviruses and the Harvard professor paid by the Chinese govt to set the lab up has been arrested by the USA recently?
Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.
Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.
i checked your lab comment and it is verifiable. way way too strange that the only lab in china is in wuhan.
"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"
It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.
"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"
It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.
The conditions of this lab were investigated a few years ago by the American government, during the time that the lab was advertising jobs for coronavirus researchers. The conditions were extremely poor.
What makes me weep for humanity is those with room-temperature IQs who took obvious lies at face value, rolled up their sleeves, and now try pretending they have no idea why 1500 athletes have died in two years etc etc.
Myocarditis and sudden heart attacks or even deaths are at an all time high atm and might even continue to surge. Yesterday we had a "new unknown" sickness in the media Tell-A-Vision outlets called "ME/CFS" basically all the symptoms of vaccination damage. Its devastatingly shocking to see that many athletes die while active a game of whatever they professionay play.
Heads up to Novak Djokoviรง btw for speaking out against the vaccines.
Heads up to Novak Djokoviรง btw for speaking out against the vaccines.
I was an anti vaxer so didnโt willingly roll up my sleeve till I caught Covid and spent the next 3 weeks hooked up to machines in ICU. Itโs kinda fucked me up in the long run too. During my recovery I spoke to a dr who was an expert on biology and had done a thesis on viruses in university. He explained to me how it works and how it has mutated and most likely jumped from species to species. As humanity continues to expand across the globe at a rapid rate pandemics will happen. We will most likely get another in the next 30 years. Why the vaccine was created so quickly was it had been worked on for years. Since the SARS outbreak in Asia in the early 2000s. As coronavirus is a type of SARS or is very closely related (on this Iโm not sure) it wasnโt really created quickly. Doctors and scientists just had to adapt their work slightly. It wasnโt an easy process by any means but so many people will involved in its creation. I respect everyoneโs rights and opinions on vaccines but really they are a GREAT thing. Much peace and love.
Corona virus and SARS are completely differentโฆalso the vaccine was being worked on for yearsโฆa number of years ago. It failed trials as a cancer treatment drug because of respitpry problems. All this information was easily searchable on Google the day the vaccine was announced, since it has been buried by propaganda.
In regards to the doctor (of medicine, not viruses) he is contradicting the professionals who have been studying the coronavirus in bats for years. As it was the virus was nowhere near โjumping speciesโ in its evolution. The wet market theory was debunked a little while ago also..
The mad thing is all the information Elon Musk released in his Twitter Files where he found collusion between govornment and all social media platforms to only promote their plan and to silence (or deplatform) anyone (including professionals in virus and pandemics) that strayed from the governmentโs stance. They even silenced the pandemic professionals who advised against vaccinating during an active plandemic as it would induce mutations and variants of the virusโฆodd what happened next.
Back to the original question? No, it wasnโt biological warfare, it was a psychological experiment in societal controlโฆall over the world and 99% of people rolled overโฆthis is all my own opinion which was gleamed with massive research.
In regards to the doctor (of medicine, not viruses) he is contradicting the professionals who have been studying the coronavirus in bats for years. As it was the virus was nowhere near โjumping speciesโ in its evolution. The wet market theory was debunked a little while ago also..
The mad thing is all the information Elon Musk released in his Twitter Files where he found collusion between govornment and all social media platforms to only promote their plan and to silence (or deplatform) anyone (including professionals in virus and pandemics) that strayed from the governmentโs stance. They even silenced the pandemic professionals who advised against vaccinating during an active plandemic as it would induce mutations and variants of the virusโฆodd what happened next.
Back to the original question? No, it wasnโt biological warfare, it was a psychological experiment in societal controlโฆall over the world and 99% of people rolled overโฆthis is all my own opinion which was gleamed with massive research.
Don't you feel dumb for believing all the lies though?
And even dumber for trying to gaslight others as "hitting the ganja too hard"?
Or are you still hidden under a rock with your fingers in your ears screaming "lalalalala I CANT HEAR YOU".
And even dumber for trying to gaslight others as "hitting the ganja too hard"?
Or are you still hidden under a rock with your fingers in your ears screaming "lalalalala I CANT HEAR YOU".
Coronavirus doesn’t have DNA, it’s not even really alive. It’s just a code of RNA
Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host
Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host
You know it was man made in a lab tho donโt you? And probably released on purpose? The amount of civil unrest in the world, the obscene amounts of money that lots of people have made from it, the control back in the hands of the governments of the world?
The mRNA vaccine has been around for about a decade. Theyโd been trying to get funding to test it uni a human population but no one wanted to fund it. They were just about to have to give up on years of hard work and money, then coincidentally, everyone got Covid and special laws were passed that meant they could administer it without the proper research done on it. And now theyโve made a shit tonne of money.
Itโs not all coincidental and it wasnโt an accident.
The mRNA vaccine has been around for about a decade. Theyโd been trying to get funding to test it uni a human population but no one wanted to fund it. They were just about to have to give up on years of hard work and money, then coincidentally, everyone got Covid and special laws were passed that meant they could administer it without the proper research done on it. And now theyโve made a shit tonne of money.
Itโs not all coincidental and it wasnโt an accident.
You should get out of that confi barrel of yours and start researching things for yourself than listening to the mainstream media. There was a paper published by a Uni don't remember which one as I read this 2 years ago but they researched the COVID virus and guess what parts of the virus does not occur in nature thus man made. Furthermore a virologist came out and said the same thing. As he did that they tried to cancel him. It's a good time to wake up buddy
You seen the Twitter Files yet?
They deplatformed some pandemic professional who was saying vaccinating during a pandemic would invoke variants and mutations of the virusโฆhe was so rightโฆbut you know, we smoke too much ganja and itโs all a coincidence ๐คทโโ๏ธ
They deplatformed some pandemic professional who was saying vaccinating during a pandemic would invoke variants and mutations of the virusโฆhe was so rightโฆbut you know, we smoke too much ganja and itโs all a coincidence ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I respect your opinion dude but you need to be able to back your source up. Not just say it was a paper you read from a university you canโt remember the name of.
Oh the source bashing lameness... this isn't arguing...lol...
All sources are fallible, and nowadays the more "verified" the less true....
All sources are fallible, and nowadays the more "verified" the less true....
All what I wanted to say is once you start doing some digging it becomes clear that all this COVID plandemic was one very fishy business. I don't think that's a secret anymore. Sorry but I don't have time to search all these papers up again you will have to do it yourself.
Itโs a good time to get a proper scientific education and learn how to weigh up multiple peer reviewed studies rather than relying on that one thing you read somewhere once.
Some comments have not aged well.
Hope you have called your conspiracy theory friends and apologised?
Hope you have called your conspiracy theory friends and apologised?
But speaking scientifically, here is an article form TheScientist in 2015 discussing how the sars coronavirus cross, created in a lab, by Ralph Baric, is a bad thing. Ralph argues otherwise.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lab-made-coronavirus-triggers-debate-34502
conspiracy my arse, its a coup. the greatest transfer of wealth in history.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lab-made-coronavirus-triggers-debate-34502
conspiracy my arse, its a coup. the greatest transfer of wealth in history.
I thought the same at the time. But there are genetic markers in coronavirus that couldn't have got in there naturally.
The current most plausible theory is that there was an accidental leak from the lab, caused by lax bio-security that had been highlighted in the past.
Check out John Sudworth's BBC podcast "Fever: The Hunt for Covid's Origin"
The current most plausible theory is that there was an accidental leak from the lab, caused by lax bio-security that had been highlighted in the past.
Check out John Sudworth's BBC podcast "Fever: The Hunt for Covid's Origin"
this describes everyone here (without regard to planetary origin) the trick dear biggaz is to see all sides and remain open until a conclusion is actually required.
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If you actually look at 5g you will see that over 130 thousand 5g towers were put in china in 2019 in the bid to win this stupid 5g race.
November to be exact is when it all started with the mass 5g installations and yet thats also when the first case of coronavirus was confirmed.
With over 10 thousand being installed in wuhan alone.
You look at side effects from emf frequencies and a lot of it could well be linked. It does have the potential to mutate things.
America has approximately 10 thousand 5g antennas throughout the whole country to put it into perspective.
Look at the amount of emf related complaints in america alone.
Recently near me they turned on 5g and 200 birds fell out of the sky. The news tried to say oh must of been a bird of prey ? things arent always black and white. Coronavirus is just another virus they are using to fear monger. Then there will be a vaccine for it.
Every year its the same. Sars. Bird flu. Swine flu. Ebola. The normal flu. Same shit every year . People just got to open their eyes.
November to be exact is when it all started with the mass 5g installations and yet thats also when the first case of coronavirus was confirmed.
With over 10 thousand being installed in wuhan alone.
You look at side effects from emf frequencies and a lot of it could well be linked. It does have the potential to mutate things.
America has approximately 10 thousand 5g antennas throughout the whole country to put it into perspective.
Look at the amount of emf related complaints in america alone.
Recently near me they turned on 5g and 200 birds fell out of the sky. The news tried to say oh must of been a bird of prey ? things arent always black and white. Coronavirus is just another virus they are using to fear monger. Then there will be a vaccine for it.
Every year its the same. Sars. Bird flu. Swine flu. Ebola. The normal flu. Same shit every year . People just got to open their eyes.
I personally feel mass 5g installations are causing a lot of side effects . Pneumonia is even a side effect of emf frequencies so really does make you wonder.
bio warfare/public health research fuck up
or
malicious shit dropped w cover of lab?
when you cant trust government to not kill people anyway does it matter?
or
malicious shit dropped w cover of lab?
when you cant trust government to not kill people anyway does it matter?
I’ll play the tinfoil hat card in that case:
The level 4 bio lab in wuhan was funded by the Americans and traces back to non other than Jeffery Epstein/Harvard university (see YouTube: Shaun Attwood’s Jeffery Epstein playlist vids).
The idea is in the short term to undermine the Asian economy (working well) and in the long term to assist in the Committee of 300/Black Monarchy plan to reduce the global population by 50% by 2050. Big Pharmaceutical companies will make huge profits also which all go back to the 300.
See ‘The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman’ in YouTube. This will show the truth to those with eyes to see.
It is just 1 small thread.
5g will make many of us infertile in the short term and cause cancer in the longer term. The weaponised aspect with full coverage will make protest or revolt near on impossible.
The goal is 1 world government with the masses easily managed.
Lots of us are waking up. We can stop this. I am not the masses, I am an individual.
The elite nonces want total power. Let’s stand up and say no. Join your local ‘no 5g’ group and get up and protest. For your kids sake. As the lyrics say if you tolerate this then your children will be next. Take 5 mins and look at the vids. Look at Prince Andrew’s victim Virginia Giuffre’s twitter page. She provides documents from California courts claiming Donald Trump raped a 13 year old child. Why was the case dropped? Why don’t we hear about it? Why do the elites (Clinton, trump, Heath, the royals, etc etc) all nonce? The truth is in plain sight.
Jimmy Savile was prince Charles best mate and gave marriage counciling to Diana. She wrote about it in her autobiography.
Charles best mate: Savile. Andrews best mates: Epstein and maxwell. If you read this far then peace and love.
We are waking up.
The level 4 bio lab in wuhan was funded by the Americans and traces back to non other than Jeffery Epstein/Harvard university (see YouTube: Shaun Attwood’s Jeffery Epstein playlist vids).
The idea is in the short term to undermine the Asian economy (working well) and in the long term to assist in the Committee of 300/Black Monarchy plan to reduce the global population by 50% by 2050. Big Pharmaceutical companies will make huge profits also which all go back to the 300.
See ‘The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman’ in YouTube. This will show the truth to those with eyes to see.
It is just 1 small thread.
5g will make many of us infertile in the short term and cause cancer in the longer term. The weaponised aspect with full coverage will make protest or revolt near on impossible.
The goal is 1 world government with the masses easily managed.
Lots of us are waking up. We can stop this. I am not the masses, I am an individual.
The elite nonces want total power. Let’s stand up and say no. Join your local ‘no 5g’ group and get up and protest. For your kids sake. As the lyrics say if you tolerate this then your children will be next. Take 5 mins and look at the vids. Look at Prince Andrew’s victim Virginia Giuffre’s twitter page. She provides documents from California courts claiming Donald Trump raped a 13 year old child. Why was the case dropped? Why don’t we hear about it? Why do the elites (Clinton, trump, Heath, the royals, etc etc) all nonce? The truth is in plain sight.
Jimmy Savile was prince Charles best mate and gave marriage counciling to Diana. She wrote about it in her autobiography.
Charles best mate: Savile. Andrews best mates: Epstein and maxwell. If you read this far then peace and love.
We are waking up.
ridiculous, if the us engineered something like this wouldn't they first go after their #1 enemy, the iranian governement?
wait a sec...
wait a sec...
Not my opinion but Il play the other card, for the purpose of debate.
China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?
FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!
As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.
Peace x
China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?
FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!
As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.
Peace x
population control lol
If them riots had spread to mainland China how much would that affect the economy
Just throwing some stuff out there
If them riots had spread to mainland China how much would that affect the economy
Just throwing some stuff out there
you wanna corona virus conspiracy eh? well, just ask yourself who profits here
New world order.
Goal - population under 500,00,000
Time frame - 100 yrs
How to achieve?
Release a virus that scares the world into hiding.
Wait until it spreads globally, killing the elderly and sick in wave one.
Produce a vaccine within a year, that offers people hope of a return to normality, without fear!
Vaccine designed to sterilize 80% of population.
In the mean time, allow virus to reach up to 8 waves before population has been completely vaccinated.
I mean....if i was to theorize.... ;)
Goal - population under 500,00,000
Time frame - 100 yrs
How to achieve?
Release a virus that scares the world into hiding.
Wait until it spreads globally, killing the elderly and sick in wave one.
Produce a vaccine within a year, that offers people hope of a return to normality, without fear!
Vaccine designed to sterilize 80% of population.
In the mean time, allow virus to reach up to 8 waves before population has been completely vaccinated.
I mean....if i was to theorize.... ;)
I certainly wont have any vaccination for sure. I wager though the governments will make it passive aggressive mandatory. What i mean by that is they probably wont make the jab law, but ibet eventually those that decline the jab will be forbidden from foreign travel or something similar. I guess covid is their way of stopping global warming.
I got the vaccine because it’s specifically for COVID-19, I don’t get the flu jab because that really is some one picking 5 strains at random for the pharms Xmas bonus
Funny how you say two contrary things within one statement. You got the vaccine for Covid-19, but not the flu shot because there are so many new flu mutated strains every year. Actually that is the contrary thing in your statement, why you might ask?
A breef overview of many (not all) Covid-19 mutations/strains:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant-classifications.html#anchor_1679059484954
So you are telling me that this would not be close to the case of the flu shots which are just moneymaking for Pharma as you mentioned earlier. Of course not all covid strains still roam around but it certainly is not only one single mutation that is infecting in waves, there are always multiple strains of Covid-19 circulating in populations. Today they stilm vaccinate people with the first vaccine for that very firsr Covid-19 strain. Now we have hundreds of covid strains and many subtypes. Lmao
A breef overview of many (not all) Covid-19 mutations/strains:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant-classifications.html#anchor_1679059484954
So you are telling me that this would not be close to the case of the flu shots which are just moneymaking for Pharma as you mentioned earlier. Of course not all covid strains still roam around but it certainly is not only one single mutation that is infecting in waves, there are always multiple strains of Covid-19 circulating in populations. Today they stilm vaccinate people with the first vaccine for that very firsr Covid-19 strain. Now we have hundreds of covid strains and many subtypes. Lmao
Well as a frontline worker I was vaccinated first before most of these variants happened. I donโt get vaccinated now due to what you have stated.
I commented before, but this time i'll just add some links.
They've been doing hella lot of research on corona viruses and enhancing potency of the viruses. Their research was US funded.
All the information is there is you look.
They've been isolating bat corona and seeing the infectiousness since 2000!
They also mention that the ageing population would be most affected.
And all of these studies are from 5 years ago.
It is a financial plan and a way to change civil liberty.
Period.
They've been doing hella lot of research on corona viruses and enhancing potency of the viruses. Their research was US funded.
All the information is there is you look.
They've been isolating bat corona and seeing the infectiousness since 2000!
They also mention that the ageing population would be most affected.
And all of these studies are from 5 years ago.
It is a financial plan and a way to change civil liberty.
Period.
Will add my long, angry 2 cents.
If you really honestly think all this was a natural incidence and don't see that there is provably a new agenda to restrict and control individuals freedoms with multiple prongs since this farce, then you are a stupid, stupid, gullible cunt that deserves to be a digital slave imprisoned in your own home..
It is unfathomable right now that you don't get it.
The gullibility and endless trust in convicted fellons with criminal records and legal indemnity is the only thing anybody should be weeping for humanity for.
Unless you are burying your gullible head in the sand, because you were shamefully cruel to others not as gullible as you, pick up your phone and apologise to your friends that you called insane fringe lunatics because of a medical procedure they didn't want.
How did the whole free world turn into conformity bullies? Some of the comments have aged like a 1 year old salmon. Do any of you feel dumb for buying this and shaming others who were skeptical?
Noam chomsky, Neil Young. All of em sold out, along with the average person..
What you are seeing on this thread by the people who refuse to see anything untoward is simply the old "easier to fool somebody than convince them they were fooled".
Idiots.
If you really honestly think all this was a natural incidence and don't see that there is provably a new agenda to restrict and control individuals freedoms with multiple prongs since this farce, then you are a stupid, stupid, gullible cunt that deserves to be a digital slave imprisoned in your own home..
It is unfathomable right now that you don't get it.
The gullibility and endless trust in convicted fellons with criminal records and legal indemnity is the only thing anybody should be weeping for humanity for.
Unless you are burying your gullible head in the sand, because you were shamefully cruel to others not as gullible as you, pick up your phone and apologise to your friends that you called insane fringe lunatics because of a medical procedure they didn't want.
How did the whole free world turn into conformity bullies? Some of the comments have aged like a 1 year old salmon. Do any of you feel dumb for buying this and shaming others who were skeptical?
Noam chomsky, Neil Young. All of em sold out, along with the average person..
What you are seeing on this thread by the people who refuse to see anything untoward is simply the old "easier to fool somebody than convince them they were fooled".
Idiots.
Such a fantastic comment this, i agree with everything you've said and i very much feel your anger
not a day goes by in my entire adult life where i haven't seen blatant reprehensible corruption at all levels of politics, science, medicine and academics all over the world, and of course nothing ever changes, nobody ever gets held accountable and even if the story gets aired in the mainstream it's quickly forgotten because come the next day you're already being bombarded with utter distracting nonsense
i've always noticed how incapable of critical thinking the average person is, unfortunately most of my friends and family are this way and since the pandemic, it's really taught me that most people are actually incapable of thinking, they're basically just organic robots with programmed social affinity executing genetic code, even their ability to talk is just a matter of repetition, they have absolutely no original thoughts and their alleged values and morality are born out of mimicking the words and behaviors of either actual people or media consensus
i've spent so many years working alongside these actual NPC's, engage these people in conversation and you will see that all of the things the average human โthinksโ are either what the media or the tribe has told them to believe or what they repeat from real people, not things they've actually thought and considered (because they don't have that ability)
Stupid, stupid gullible cunts.
not a day goes by in my entire adult life where i haven't seen blatant reprehensible corruption at all levels of politics, science, medicine and academics all over the world, and of course nothing ever changes, nobody ever gets held accountable and even if the story gets aired in the mainstream it's quickly forgotten because come the next day you're already being bombarded with utter distracting nonsense
i've always noticed how incapable of critical thinking the average person is, unfortunately most of my friends and family are this way and since the pandemic, it's really taught me that most people are actually incapable of thinking, they're basically just organic robots with programmed social affinity executing genetic code, even their ability to talk is just a matter of repetition, they have absolutely no original thoughts and their alleged values and morality are born out of mimicking the words and behaviors of either actual people or media consensus
i've spent so many years working alongside these actual NPC's, engage these people in conversation and you will see that all of the things the average human โthinksโ are either what the media or the tribe has told them to believe or what they repeat from real people, not things they've actually thought and considered (because they don't have that ability)
Stupid, stupid gullible cunts.
Yes, it seems like believing that individual rights (like bodily autonomy) are not negotiable makes you crazy, fringe and anything else negative nowadays.
The subtle conditioning makes progressives point at any libertarian (whether left or right leaning) and make a flurry of outrageous accusations just by the virtue they believe in strong individual and property rights instead of focusing on group rights.
The same people used the same bodily autonomy argument they rejected during covid to show their disgust at the repeal of Roe v Wade (which was a backwards step for America in my opinion).
Individual rights bad, group rights good... that was widespread. I lost count how many times somebody tried to say it was different because you can't transmit pregnancy. Most insane thing I ever heard.
It's ridiculous that anybody has to be persuaded to care about their freedom. To the point I have given up trying.
I don't believe in unrealistic or far fetched stories about satanism, flag earth or shape-shifting reptilian from the lower fourth dimension.
But this was clear - a small cabal of rich people and scientists in prominent positions hijacked science for their own purpose and that is an irrefutable fact after recent leaks.
What good does clinging onto the ghost of the wuhan fish market bat shit do anybody?
Anyway, nice to hear from somebody like minded and angry ๐คฃ
The subtle conditioning makes progressives point at any libertarian (whether left or right leaning) and make a flurry of outrageous accusations just by the virtue they believe in strong individual and property rights instead of focusing on group rights.
The same people used the same bodily autonomy argument they rejected during covid to show their disgust at the repeal of Roe v Wade (which was a backwards step for America in my opinion).
Individual rights bad, group rights good... that was widespread. I lost count how many times somebody tried to say it was different because you can't transmit pregnancy. Most insane thing I ever heard.
It's ridiculous that anybody has to be persuaded to care about their freedom. To the point I have given up trying.
I don't believe in unrealistic or far fetched stories about satanism, flag earth or shape-shifting reptilian from the lower fourth dimension.
But this was clear - a small cabal of rich people and scientists in prominent positions hijacked science for their own purpose and that is an irrefutable fact after recent leaks.
What good does clinging onto the ghost of the wuhan fish market bat shit do anybody?
Anyway, nice to hear from somebody like minded and angry ๐คฃ
i think youre having fun with this but if not how would such a secret ever be kept? it goes strongly against the most instinctive of human instincts to do this and keep quite about it.
The ways we receive our information are controlled.
A handful of major companies own the media.
Information is compartmentalised.
Silence is gained through money, threats/blackmail or killing/suiciding.
Check out the ‘Clinton body count’ and see how many of his close personal friends and bodyguards have died in light aircraft accidents or committed suicide. It’s not hidden, but a well constructed narrative that makes this sound silly protects it very well. An open mind is all that one needs. Much love.
A handful of major companies own the media.
Information is compartmentalised.
Silence is gained through money, threats/blackmail or killing/suiciding.
Check out the ‘Clinton body count’ and see how many of his close personal friends and bodyguards have died in light aircraft accidents or committed suicide. It’s not hidden, but a well constructed narrative that makes this sound silly protects it very well. An open mind is all that one needs. Much love.
if it were true this story could never break with corporate media. they all run their government's take on anything remotely like this.
Yes I think the hunter Biden laptop story has put pay to this "secrets can't be kept by humans" rubbish. Just a repeated fallacy that has no truth.
If the entire media industry can keep Philip Schofield's homosexuality secret for 30 odd years whilst he was appearing to live a straight, married life, they can hide something much more important to the public for at least as long.
It's a crude comparison, but one cannot deny the media is brutal. Remember them going after Keith Vaz so brutally whilst he was still married and an MP? How unfair was that on his family?
They can protect whoever and whatever they want to...
If the entire media industry can keep Philip Schofield's homosexuality secret for 30 odd years whilst he was appearing to live a straight, married life, they can hide something much more important to the public for at least as long.
It's a crude comparison, but one cannot deny the media is brutal. Remember them going after Keith Vaz so brutally whilst he was still married and an MP? How unfair was that on his family?
They can protect whoever and whatever they want to...
Spooks have protocols for this shit it usually means killing the researchers or holding something over them.
Well Fauci did admit after a 2 year stretch that now the likelihood of the virus is from a Lab
The wuhan lab was funded by the USA. It was carrying out gain of function research
The Vaccines have been the most profitable venture in human history
What is the reason of carrying out gain of function research?
The wuhan lab was funded by the USA. It was carrying out gain of function research
The Vaccines have been the most profitable venture in human history
What is the reason of carrying out gain of function research?
This explains a lot!
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/31/covid-19-overcoming-testing-challenges/?fbclid=IwAR1ikMtfYusDqZ0Gmideh1d4C5fTMbSjvMuKlS1MpN0yf6ZGJq6ogaPXhUE
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/31/covid-19-overcoming-testing-challenges/?fbclid=IwAR1ikMtfYusDqZ0Gmideh1d4C5fTMbSjvMuKlS1MpN0yf6ZGJq6ogaPXhUE
It would make sense for the Americans to start it off in china and overplay the number of deaths added to the fear and isolation and every person in the west is ready to boycott china or even war. Makes you think when all the countries suffering most deaths are usa, uk, italy, spain and france. They have never fought together before ?.. someone dies of a heart attack in the uk, do you think they will waste their very rare tests. Just write it as corona, Helps in multiple ways. Politicians are nuts. You never know! All I know is I only barely scraped through secondary school and I was saying shut down all flights from china to any country weeks before they even started reporting about what was happening in China on tv. It was all over twitter for months before. Just like trump said china cant hit the hong kong protesters and it was all over our tvs but macrons goons were beating the feck out of decent french people and our tvs showed nothing. Thank fuck we have weed in this crazy world
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence...
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence...
This spring would have had more protests than the 1960s. The Chinese government had a lot to lose with Hong Kong protests starting to spread to Guangdong province.
Is there anything they could keep them home as effectively as this?
Is there anything they could keep them home as effectively as this?
Undoubtedly the powers that be have concocted this virus to thin the herd of the weak and terrify the populace into obedience.
Of course. Why wouldn't US do this to Russia. Because they know that next day Russians will wave a tiny vial on TV saying they've cured it. And retaliate beyond repair.
Why not Iran? They have nothing to gain. But an economic 'war' with China. One has to make them look ugly and not appealing to deal with.
Same story is with so many African nations.
As a matter of fact, the italian man who was diagnosted with coronavirus walked out of a swiss hospital already. Cured. LOL.
Why not Iran? They have nothing to gain. But an economic 'war' with China. One has to make them look ugly and not appealing to deal with.
Same story is with so many African nations.
As a matter of fact, the italian man who was diagnosted with coronavirus walked out of a swiss hospital already. Cured. LOL.
You wouldn't put a virus like that out there to destroy another economy especially one where it effectives old people.
Sure, on Vulcan. But humans don't need able bodies people to die they only need to be scared. And that's what happened.
A virus with a bark bigger than it's bite is optimal for economic destruction and rather Trumpian if you ask me.
That said yeah of course this is just nature at work :)
A virus with a bark bigger than it's bite is optimal for economic destruction and rather Trumpian if you ask me.
That said yeah of course this is just nature at work :)
There’s a very interesting book written by Dean Koontz in 1981 The Eyes Of Darkness, that mentions a virus created in a lab just outside wuhan in labs called Wuhan-400, and he’s prediction is that it will affect humanity around 2020! Wether it’s genuine everyone can make up their own mind, interesting he mentions it though!
But yeah I can believe it was at least being developed or researched in a lab, and it got out. Maybe Russia were in on it too. After all they caused problems in Salisbury and they clearly don't adhere to international agreements. Germ / bacterial/ viral warfare on a global scale is the next best thing to nukes. At least the earth wouldn't be scorched -- but then the virus would kill the perpetrators too, so fuck knows.
Its a very clever and organically advanced virus too, affecting human lungs. I know "Mother Nature" is clever but ....this virus is quite advanced. Scary shit man.
But I never thought I would be so bored having to stay at home.
Aarrrgghhhh!!!!!!
Its a very clever and organically advanced virus too, affecting human lungs. I know "Mother Nature" is clever but ....this virus is quite advanced. Scary shit man.
But I never thought I would be so bored having to stay at home.
Aarrrgghhhh!!!!!!
the lamestream mediocres and corrupt WHO have been warning about a second wave. Now there are new cases springing up in Beijing.
Globally, the first wave is petering out, but the election is not until November.
Makes me wonder if we're being groomed for a second nonsensical lockdown. That history has already shown the first to be bullshit will I assume have no bearing if this is indeed what's coming down the pipe.
If there were some politically motivated opportunist mass gatherings orchestrated, then presumably the spread (of the second wave) could be pinned on these
Globally, the first wave is petering out, but the election is not until November.
Makes me wonder if we're being groomed for a second nonsensical lockdown. That history has already shown the first to be bullshit will I assume have no bearing if this is indeed what's coming down the pipe.
If there were some politically motivated opportunist mass gatherings orchestrated, then presumably the spread (of the second wave) could be pinned on these
Sooooo many NPC's on this thread. I hope you read through your old comments and cringe you gullible fucks.
It's 56min long but found it interesting as it was uploaded 12 years ago and he talks about a flu like virus released on China.
My opinion on matters like this are not worth 5p, but the timing of covid being in similar time frame to the UK leaving the EU does seem convenient. Seems like the East trying to destabilize the west. Im sure it would be in Chinas interest for the whole EU to collapse. Also UK and London being the financial capital and the UK suffering worse economical damage than any other EU country shortly after agreeing to leave the EU just seems incredible timing. Couldve randomly occured 6.4 years ago, but randomly occured shortly after the beginning of the EU starting to dissolve. And again nobody is disputing this virus came from china and its timing is so outrageously perfect as to is its target. Dont know anything, just smells a bit fishy.
Please stay safe people. This is really scary!! Would recommend flattenthecurve.com for some
Good advice.
Good advice.
I would like to think, that if I made a bio weapon it would a bit more potent than a sore throat and a cough
If you were to release it on the world, what other way would you make sure
a. It doesn't kill YOUR family
b. It doesn't kill off the whole workforce of the economy that actually make the priveleged class possible?
a. It doesn't kill YOUR family
b. It doesn't kill off the whole workforce of the economy that actually make the priveleged class possible?
The virus came from China, nobody is disputing that, China wouldn't hurt their own economy like that intentionally. Plenty of lies and shady dealings around covid but this ain't it chief.
some of the comments here are so cliche stoner, it makes me embarrassed to consider myself one.
we'll never know the truth and i'm not getting pointless angry until the facts are laid out and undeniable. these kind of coronaviruses exist in nature, and we know that governments also fuck around with experiments. that's all we know for a fact.
some of you sound like you believe 5G turns people into gay frogs. wait for the undeniable facts and in the meanwhile, smoke lots of weed but not so much that you believe anything you read on Facebook.
we'll never know the truth and i'm not getting pointless angry until the facts are laid out and undeniable. these kind of coronaviruses exist in nature, and we know that governments also fuck around with experiments. that's all we know for a fact.
some of you sound like you believe 5G turns people into gay frogs. wait for the undeniable facts and in the meanwhile, smoke lots of weed but not so much that you believe anything you read on Facebook.
depends... if djt is re-elected then yes. if Biden/democratx then no. democrats love chinas money. sell-out central.
china has been open about wanting to be the supreme world superpower. they pay-off everyone, in every facet.
national self-sufficiency is the base line. trade is the gravy. those are the foundations of stability. it's common sense.
bio-warfare is available as we've experienced. c19 is lab-derived corona rna with hiv sequences inserted and affinity enabled. if this was originally an accident then it was certainly weaponised. the good and the bad of biowar is that it is essentially nuclear-level as at today.
china has been open about wanting to be the supreme world superpower. they pay-off everyone, in every facet.
national self-sufficiency is the base line. trade is the gravy. those are the foundations of stability. it's common sense.
bio-warfare is available as we've experienced. c19 is lab-derived corona rna with hiv sequences inserted and affinity enabled. if this was originally an accident then it was certainly weaponised. the good and the bad of biowar is that it is essentially nuclear-level as at today.
3 posts
+5 votes
by
24601
what would the world look like if we had a choice of countries?
8 posts
+59 votes
Networks Not Nations
Networks Not Nations
Now the American Cat is busy licking itself the mice can play again. Ancient ethnic feuds, dictators jerking off with their strategy games, we've seen it all before; new order meet the old order.
It's got to make you wonder why we are still organised into these units called countries. What are they so uniquely good for besides war?
It's got to make you wonder why we are still organised into these units called countries. What are they so uniquely good for besides war?
5 posts
+12 votes
by
silk worm
"Civilization" set back human health and happiness for thousands of years.
by
silk worm
"Civilization" set back human health and happiness for thousands of years.
Amazing insights from Yale's James Scott.
He talks about the freedom that nomads had but how do we know those folks weren't oppressed by their pack leaders. When you look at animals you see a pretty nasty pecking order and it's beyond surveillance, you're living in small groups with your alpha boss 24-7.
Pack animals don't tend to have a nasty pecking order. Depends what species you are thinking of. With wolves that is definitely not the case.
But we know about hunter gatherer societies through ethnographies conducted from the early C20th to today.
In general they tend to be more egalitarian.
The tyranny comes in because as a member of a hunter gatherer group, you are dependent on being part of the group in order to survive.
So excess babies, disabled people and the very old can no longer be catered for. And if you transgress (eg don't share meat you have found) you might be ostracised.
But we know about hunter gatherer societies through ethnographies conducted from the early C20th to today.
In general they tend to be more egalitarian.
The tyranny comes in because as a member of a hunter gatherer group, you are dependent on being part of the group in order to survive.
So excess babies, disabled people and the very old can no longer be catered for. And if you transgress (eg don't share meat you have found) you might be ostracised.
4 posts
+12 votes
by
Tenpester
A list of alternatives to nations
by
Tenpester
A list of alternatives to nations
Rule by consensus of machines
Rule by machine
Rule by consensus of humans
Rule by consensus of machine representatives
After that comes rule by human representatives.
Rule by machine
Rule by consensus of humans
Rule by consensus of machine representatives
After that comes rule by human representatives.
nations are defined by physical security. protection racket or risk of theft, that's the choice they have always offered.
decentralize this game and nations are deprecated.
decentralize this game and nations are deprecated.
1 post
+2 votes
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ๅ
จ้
c02 emissions by country
22 posts
+78 votes
putin assassination strategies
That ain't filler. The man appears to be on a fairly big dose of steroids. I'd imagine he's quite unwell and probably not long for this world.
If he hasnโt got long, this makes him very dangerous. Coupled with the fact a lot of the drugs elderly take effect the mind without them knowing.
I fear ill health is wishful thinking. Looks like he's spent a bundle on plastic surgery to me. That said, it's probably better for a lot of people if he's not at death's door.
If only we could โfast forward to the bit where he shoots himself in the bunkerโโฆ..followed by eternal damnation in the flames of Hell fire with a red hot pitchfork up his bum hole.
Seems fair ๐
Seems fair ๐
Biden laughing all the way to the bank. While UK, Europe suffers...
Ukraine is too kind to fight Russia for the USA/West.
USA don't want Nord stream 1 or 2 to exist! And voile it's happening now!
Ukraine is too kind to fight Russia for the USA/West.
USA don't want Nord stream 1 or 2 to exist! And voile it's happening now!
this guy will pay a million for the effort
he needs to show his comrades that he isn't bunkered this means he is looking at regular strategy meetings in person with people easier to follow. his makeup and camera crew are all regulars and dont have a lot of security around them normally.
Canโt believe someone hasnโt shot/ poisoned the evil cunt tbh. (They like a bit of poison do the Russians)
Trouble is he would just be replaced by another one,cut from the same cloth I fear. Still canโt believe after all we went thru with covid, his first response afterwards was fucking war! He is the very definition of little man syndrome. ๐ก
Trouble is he would just be replaced by another one,cut from the same cloth I fear. Still canโt believe after all we went thru with covid, his first response afterwards was fucking war! He is the very definition of little man syndrome. ๐ก
That's a fed up topic honestly.
No one should wish anyone death. All I can say is that I dont trust any governments at all, let it be Russia,China or USA/Nato member countries. All of these govs are doing shady things, acting in their own aswell as corporate interests. Not trying to hate, but if you wanna see putin dead you should also wanna see many other international leaders/presidents dead. All I can say that I condone wishing anyone a tragic or painful death.
No one should wish anyone death. All I can say is that I dont trust any governments at all, let it be Russia,China or USA/Nato member countries. All of these govs are doing shady things, acting in their own aswell as corporate interests. Not trying to hate, but if you wanna see putin dead you should also wanna see many other international leaders/presidents dead. All I can say that I condone wishing anyone a tragic or painful death.
he just needs to smoke some pot and chill the fuck out, and suck some dick, poor guy has a lot of tension.
2 posts
+14 votes
by
Tenpester
The Weakness of the Despot
I love the way Wesley thinks:
"DECENTRALIZING THE WORLD 2.0 --
After decentralizing money, we will no decentralize the Law.
You probably heard of Bitcoin. Last year's hype has gotten a lot of people very excited. Why is this?
Well, Bitcoin is a new kind of money. It gives people the freedom to transact with one-another -- without the need for a third party (bank, paypal, atm's, currency exchanges) or central authority (government, central banks).
It allows you to send payments all over the world: instantly, with very low fees and without needing anyone's permission. The amount of freedom, and efficiency- and cost-savings this will provide in the near future is going to be huge!
HOWEVER, that's not all...
People have been looking at how these technologies can be used to improve other areas of society. This resulted in a lot of new ideas about LAW and GOVERNANCE; from self-enforcing online contracts, the way companies are incorporated, to the way court hearings are done (and enforced), and even to the creation of online countries (?!).
I was enthusiastic about these developments. But the better I studied them, the more whitepapers I read, the more I realized that something is missing. Basically, all these projects act like they are in a vacuum. As if all we need is a few superiors lines of code, and all current laws and legal systems will be replaced. But laws matter. They did not fall from the sky, and they are not going away.
Frankly, what is missing, is a "Legal Framework" -- a way to merge these technologies with the real world. A framework for decentralized law making, arbitration and enforcement. And as I found out, our existing legal systems allows a lot of room for that!
And thus I introduce:
The DECENTRALIZED LEGAL SYSTEM -- The first enforceable framework for Decentralized Law.
To create this system, I studied different decentralized legal projects and existing relevant laws -- all the way back to the ancient Greeks, to figure out what law actually is. In the end, I tied this all together in a straightforward peer-to-peer system that can govern (and enforce) future decentralized systems.
I made this simple website, where you can see the executive summary and download the whitepaper:
https://decentralizedlegalsystem.com/
Let me know what you think, and feel free to share with people you think might find this interesting.
Cheers!
Wesley"
"DECENTRALIZING THE WORLD 2.0 --
After decentralizing money, we will no decentralize the Law.
You probably heard of Bitcoin. Last year's hype has gotten a lot of people very excited. Why is this?
Well, Bitcoin is a new kind of money. It gives people the freedom to transact with one-another -- without the need for a third party (bank, paypal, atm's, currency exchanges) or central authority (government, central banks).
It allows you to send payments all over the world: instantly, with very low fees and without needing anyone's permission. The amount of freedom, and efficiency- and cost-savings this will provide in the near future is going to be huge!
HOWEVER, that's not all...
People have been looking at how these technologies can be used to improve other areas of society. This resulted in a lot of new ideas about LAW and GOVERNANCE; from self-enforcing online contracts, the way companies are incorporated, to the way court hearings are done (and enforced), and even to the creation of online countries (?!).
I was enthusiastic about these developments. But the better I studied them, the more whitepapers I read, the more I realized that something is missing. Basically, all these projects act like they are in a vacuum. As if all we need is a few superiors lines of code, and all current laws and legal systems will be replaced. But laws matter. They did not fall from the sky, and they are not going away.
Frankly, what is missing, is a "Legal Framework" -- a way to merge these technologies with the real world. A framework for decentralized law making, arbitration and enforcement. And as I found out, our existing legal systems allows a lot of room for that!
And thus I introduce:
The DECENTRALIZED LEGAL SYSTEM -- The first enforceable framework for Decentralized Law.
To create this system, I studied different decentralized legal projects and existing relevant laws -- all the way back to the ancient Greeks, to figure out what law actually is. In the end, I tied this all together in a straightforward peer-to-peer system that can govern (and enforce) future decentralized systems.
I made this simple website, where you can see the executive summary and download the whitepaper:
https://decentralizedlegalsystem.com/
Let me know what you think, and feel free to share with people you think might find this interesting.
Cheers!
Wesley"
Smart contracts are a great improvement over the legal system, no arguing, no check is in the mail, just events and payments.
Makes sense as we have to do something brfore the system crashes down...but in the UK the entire legal profession just exists to keep the people from what is lawful, which is quite different.
we still have common law. in it there is no place for corporations, fines or lawyers...we just need to get rid of the crooks and use it again. All written down in magna carta. No legal 'acts' are lawful nor are acts of parliament...we have the shape of a system in place but we forgot it due to poor education and brainwashing by the media.
Maybe we should return to that.
we still have common law. in it there is no place for corporations, fines or lawyers...we just need to get rid of the crooks and use it again. All written down in magna carta. No legal 'acts' are lawful nor are acts of parliament...we have the shape of a system in place but we forgot it due to poor education and brainwashing by the media.
Maybe we should return to that.
Thank you for your question.
I think that by creating state machinery that allows coordination of social, military, political action on large scale over a big territory (including multiple cities), people unwittingly forged chains that could be broken only by the progress of modern times. Which made possible the education, instruction, information and coordination of the struggle of the working classes on an equally large scale.
History (theory), being unable to explain "failures" of many revolutions, has just chosen to ignore them by refusing to take into account all the authentic "unsuccessful" revolutions in history.
Revolutions happen more often than we think and are not always covered in blood and change of regimes.
That said, yes, believe it has to be a revolution, not necessarily ones whose images we have imprinted in our consciousness by history/media/etc.
Pretty much same as invention of bitcoin. Revolution that happened in front of our eyes and is still going on.
I think that by creating state machinery that allows coordination of social, military, political action on large scale over a big territory (including multiple cities), people unwittingly forged chains that could be broken only by the progress of modern times. Which made possible the education, instruction, information and coordination of the struggle of the working classes on an equally large scale.
History (theory), being unable to explain "failures" of many revolutions, has just chosen to ignore them by refusing to take into account all the authentic "unsuccessful" revolutions in history.
Revolutions happen more often than we think and are not always covered in blood and change of regimes.
That said, yes, believe it has to be a revolution, not necessarily ones whose images we have imprinted in our consciousness by history/media/etc.
Pretty much same as invention of bitcoin. Revolution that happened in front of our eyes and is still going on.
theres always a revolution on layer or another its really just awareness of it that gets the flag
5 posts
+29 votes
by
bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy
by
bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy
A web platform for creating initiatives actually works.
Democracy is like a lot of shit, it's really exciting and motivating until you get used to it. Places like Taiwan are still smitten with democracy and are likely to become the leaders.
26 posts
+96.5 votes
by
doc holiday
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?
by
doc holiday
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?
I probably can't go but just knowing it exists would give me hope
How does Tashkent Uzbekistan grab ya?
Colonial? Your shit's just parochial.
Just keep it in the parish bigga, maybe tell it to your vicar
You know he's always up to hear from his favorite dick licker.
Just keep it in the parish bigga, maybe tell it to your vicar
You know he's always up to hear from his favorite dick licker.
When it comes to playing favourites
your Mum always comes to mind
In fact her favouritism for this man's gizzum
is what first inspired this rhyme.
your Mum always comes to mind
In fact her favouritism for this man's gizzum
is what first inspired this rhyme.
My friend you need not go anywhere to feel more optimistic. As a wise old goat I would suggest that you will feel more optimistic about the world if you stop watching the news. The news media has one main objective. To put the fear of God/Mohammed/Haile Selassie (delete as necessary) into ALL of us. That way they hope that we will keep on watching in fear of our lives whilst at the same time putting their chosen political spin on the news to suit their agenda and worry the shit out of us.
My friends please give it a chance and you will see that the world isn’t speeding at 1,000mph towards hell.
The news just wants you to think that. And keep you watching in fear.
Happy smokes.
My friends please give it a chance and you will see that the world isn’t speeding at 1,000mph towards hell.
The news just wants you to think that. And keep you watching in fear.
Happy smokes.
Czech Republic, China, Taiwan;)
Buy a fake degree online and use it to get a working visa for teaching English in China. Unless you already have a degree, then it’s easy and they look after you;)
Buy a fake degree online and use it to get a working visa for teaching English in China. Unless you already have a degree, then it’s easy and they look after you;)
Most Optimistic place ? the Jungle where them Jaguars be teleporting on a regular. Ayahuasca enthusiastic Jaguars know whats up.
The youtube channels of QAnon followers who think Trump is the saviour, warriors of light are leaving flaming bags of turd on the doorstep of the Illuminati and we're not just all trying to create in a landscape of true chaos...
Yeah, I'm desperate to head back to Amsterdam/Utrecht, and then on to Berlin again :) Where do you want to go?
4 posts
+13 votes
by
ike
List of countries by income equality
4 posts
+34 votes
by
Tenpester
it didn't have to be this way
by
Tenpester
it didn't have to be this way
since the beginning people have self organised into cities without states, kings or aristocracy. a brilliant historian's new narrative.
I knew this guy on Twitter! Mate of a couple mutuals, before he passed. Ruthlessly intelligent, a complete gentleman, proud to call him part of the movement. Can't recommend his books enough. I'll definitely be buying this one. Just sad that it's his last. Rest in power, David
28 posts
+131.2 votes
by
foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
by
foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
The author looks at ordinary people's lives as Hitler shocked the country into submission as he fought the "lรผgenpresse" - lying media.
Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.
It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...
Sadly we going to be finding out very soon that the majority of Americans want a semi-Fascist state the same with the uk population too
ring really reminds me of the gestapo, they rolled almost exclusively through ordinary informants. people with fucked up biases are having their day.
why do they keep designing things to look like hal? doesnt anyone remember how the movie ends?
Germany became increasingly polarized with people espousing Marxism on one side and Law and Order on the other. This is exactly how it feels in America now.
Why the dystopian views are always referred to Nazism and not to Communism? They are basically the same shit, and Communism looks much more dangerous to me, because it "succeeded" for many more years, in many more countries, and for some reason has that glamorous look to so many idiots...
AND JUST LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING APOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF "COMMUNISM". AT LEAST IT WAS ACTUALLY FUCKING COMMUNISM BACK THEN AND NOT JUST WHATEVER IS NOT ON THE RIGHT
Watching the Plot Against America on Sky and it’s easy to see how Facism takes hold. Not dissimilar to Trump’s America.
In times of economic and political strife extremists always rise, whether left or right wing...it doesn't matter, they are reactionary's. For example the liberal left intend destruction of things about history that upset them much in the same way Nazi's in Germany burned books. People need to learn from History and rarely do, the same mistakes are repeated and things somehow trundle on. 'Good times bring weak people', 'Weak people bring bad times', 'Bad times bring strong people' & 'Strong people bring good times'. The great circle of human history.
I thought it was the republicans (ie the right) in America banning certain aspects of history they donโt like.
Who are the liberal left?
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Iโm not trying to start an argument Iโm trying to understand
Who are the liberal left?
Edit
Iโm not trying to start an argument Iโm trying to understand
lol it's different in different countries. A conservative in the US is different from a conservative in the UK.
As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.
Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.
As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.
Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.
Thanks for the response mate.
I still donโt get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues arenโt history they glorify the subjects for posterity.
Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?
I still donโt get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues arenโt history they glorify the subjects for posterity.
Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?
Well the statues are an example. They are subjects for posterity but they also memorialise history and certain points in history. As such they connect themselves to that history.
I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.
I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.
Also CRT?
I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.
I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.
Also CRT?
Thanks for the response mate.
I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally donโt put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.
CRT
Critical Race Theory
I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally donโt put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.
CRT
Critical Race Theory
Yeah np, I don't mind a bit of debate.
Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.
There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.
I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.
But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.
This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".
So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD
Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.
There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.
I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.
But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.
This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".
So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD
Thanks man I do appreciate your time and input.
Itโs good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear
I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police
Have I got that right?
Itโs good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear
I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police
Have I got that right?
7 posts
+34 votes
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doc holiday
all murderers are punished unless...
by
doc holiday
all murderers are punished unless...
they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
โ Voltaire
โ Voltaire
How can a society can ever determine what is truly right and wrong when a tyrant can hand out the permission to kill on a whim
the level and scale of cognitive dissonance amongst the self proclaimed "most intelligent species" is so embarrassingly overwhelming, there truly is no hope.
it's reached a point where it's objectively unfair and inaccurate to compare ourselves to animals when all of the most despicable, depraved and disgusting acts are carried out by our own failing species, even with the wealth of our entire history of knowledge right at our fingertips we still haven't learnt a single meaningful thing.
the level and scale of cognitive dissonance amongst the self proclaimed "most intelligent species" is so embarrassingly overwhelming, there truly is no hope.
it's reached a point where it's objectively unfair and inaccurate to compare ourselves to animals when all of the most despicable, depraved and disgusting acts are carried out by our own failing species, even with the wealth of our entire history of knowledge right at our fingertips we still haven't learnt a single meaningful thing.
Our time here is so nearly done. Yet in terms of the cosmos, it was all just the slightest blink of an eye..
Spoken like a true stoner! Joking aside you are of course absolutely correct. Unless you're unfortunate enough to be one of those that believes in the sky wizard creating everything 4,000 years ago!
4 posts
+16 votes
by
defnote
21 Times When Coffee was Illegal
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defnote
21 Times When Coffee was Illegal
England included, basically rulers were afraid of coffeehouses and the ideas they might spread.
I donโt drink the stuff and find I have far more energy than my friends and colleagues that consume it constantly.
Coffee works well in those that don't drink it often. Those that drink it FOR the effects will eventually not feel them and there's generally another reason for the lack of energy and wanting it from caffeine.
7 posts
+38.2 votes
by
Tenpester
want to end war? hold the weapons makers liable.
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Tenpester
want to end war? hold the weapons makers liable.
there are at least 2 guaranteed winners in every war, the weapons suppliers on each side. doesn't matter who wins or loses the corporations still profit, just ask the many nazi suppliers still around today.
considering their enormous influence over miltaries and governments it's not surprising we still haven't got rid of war.
considering their enormous influence over miltaries and governments it's not surprising we still haven't got rid of war.
Would work perfectly if they didn't control nearly every legislature, dictator or other potential enforcer of this liability.
Don't forget the banks that finance the wars there winning big!
Its people like Phillip may(teresa mays husband) and Paul kenward (Victoria atkins husband uks old drugs minister responsible for uks drugs policy) who are at the head of this.
They both own alot of UK sugar and BAE.
Not only controlling alot of the world's arms but also their medicinal mj supply with Sativex and 50% of the uks sugar supply.
Its people like Phillip may(teresa mays husband) and Paul kenward (Victoria atkins husband uks old drugs minister responsible for uks drugs policy) who are at the head of this.
They both own alot of UK sugar and BAE.
Not only controlling alot of the world's arms but also their medicinal mj supply with Sativex and 50% of the uks sugar supply.
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Before solving the worldโs problems, focus on improving your writing skills.
Use correct punctuation, grammar, and spelling to make your message clear and credible.
Corporations are businesses, just like people who sell stuff on this website.
If you donโt like to exchange money for products and services, then you shouldnโt be commenting on this website at all. Or even have the internet. Or even have a computer.
Iโm not worried about Nazis. Your ignorance and idiocy is the real problem.
Use correct punctuation, grammar, and spelling to make your message clear and credible.
Corporations are businesses, just like people who sell stuff on this website.
If you donโt like to exchange money for products and services, then you shouldnโt be commenting on this website at all. Or even have the internet. Or even have a computer.
Iโm not worried about Nazis. Your ignorance and idiocy is the real problem.
In your frankly disgusting attempt at gaslighting this guy, not only have you failed in every possible way and clearly missed the actual point due to your own ignorance, but you've also exposed yourself as the ignorant idiotic one!
not only are his writing skills PERFECTLY fine, but it's completely irrelevant, his point was perfectly clear and understandable and calls for no spell checks or extra grammar, you are THE typical reddit grammar nazi, ignoring the immensely important and perfectly understandable point the topic was about and getting hung up over the placement of a full stop or a capital letter, YOU are the one being ignorant here!
and to top it all off, your laughable attempt at gaslighting him again with the "corporations are businesses" bullshit, i'm embarrassed for you exposing such flawed logic... so if i own a corporation thats deals in child sex trafficking, that's ok is it? because "i'm exchanging money for products and services" that makes it fine? jesus christ did you even think before you wrote this utter nonsense? or were you just too caught up in trying to give yourself a big pat on the back over your good but essentially pointless writing skills?
why do so many people like you exist and what makes you think the way you do? it's so fucking unfortunate and you are a HUGE part of the problem of why the world is as fucked and irreparable as it is.
not only are his writing skills PERFECTLY fine, but it's completely irrelevant, his point was perfectly clear and understandable and calls for no spell checks or extra grammar, you are THE typical reddit grammar nazi, ignoring the immensely important and perfectly understandable point the topic was about and getting hung up over the placement of a full stop or a capital letter, YOU are the one being ignorant here!
and to top it all off, your laughable attempt at gaslighting him again with the "corporations are businesses" bullshit, i'm embarrassed for you exposing such flawed logic... so if i own a corporation thats deals in child sex trafficking, that's ok is it? because "i'm exchanging money for products and services" that makes it fine? jesus christ did you even think before you wrote this utter nonsense? or were you just too caught up in trying to give yourself a big pat on the back over your good but essentially pointless writing skills?
why do so many people like you exist and what makes you think the way you do? it's so fucking unfortunate and you are a HUGE part of the problem of why the world is as fucked and irreparable as it is.
3 posts
+13 votes
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Han duo
China kills AI chatbots that learn to praise US
5 posts
+26 votes
by
theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit
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theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit
Local govs generally work better because they are limited to in your face realities.
Big govs have to earn our attention with wars or actively get in our business to be relevant.
Big govs have to earn our attention with wars or actively get in our business to be relevant.
local newspapers are dying because they only have realities to deal with, big media can weave grand fictions for years.
local newspapers are invariably run by larger media outfits- certainly in this country you will find them pushing the same pro-business and anti- people agenda, while pushing for harder punishment for poor criminals by hyper vilification, and a justification for the crimes of the rich, and a nice side order of celebrity worship- they imply locality but are run by the same wankers that get their dirty hands onto everything. I think local newspapers are probably reflective of how corporatised and then depleted many local town are in the North of England- since Thatcher a few folk were sble to buy their social housing and the rest of the working class were screwed over- itโs been a downward spiral since then, and the local newspapers have become a casualty along the way.
Both the left and the right have really good independent news outlets that put mainstream news to shameโฆโฆshame
Both the left and the right have really good independent news outlets that put mainstream news to shameโฆโฆshame
13 posts
+30 votes
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iron jizz
will the chinese gov say sorry?
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iron jizz
will the chinese gov say sorry?
no conspiracy theory here looking at this as an accident what kind of a person wouldn't show some remorse?
World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings. ~ Denis Healey, United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defence (1964-1970) and Chancellor of the Exchequer (1974-1979).
But, couldnโt the rest of the world have seen this coming from miles and miles away? Why should only the Chinese government be responsible? I feel like we all could learn from other peopleโs mistakes. Once the Chinese government failed, the rest lacked in response as well.. and now people are so stubborn, wanting to continue normal life when things are still not in control. Which is absolutely understandable. But blame is not going to stop this, especially if we donโt take responsibility ourselves. so why not ask for an apology closer to home?
It quite clearly wasnโt an accident, even if it was how can they admit it? Every government in the world suing for 600 Billion, everyone that lost someone getting multi million dollar payoutsโฆ It was a giant scam from start to finish imo.
Itโs USA and China.
Thank me later (copy this b4 itโs taken down)
Smoking gunโฆ. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
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Thank me later (copy this b4 itโs taken down)
Smoking gunโฆ. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
https://republicans-energycommerce.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Year-5-EHA.pdf?fbclid=IwAR36wLp-vTrD6I9CS0Fk5aa4EPRhDbHnwHYZbu3M2dnMusk0tcEgXHLGnWQ
9 posts
+29 votes
by
blunt blower
Why are the governments of the US and Russia adversaries?
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blunt blower
Why are the governments of the US and Russia adversaries?
The most powerful segment of the US economy was dependent upon the Cold War and when it was won conditions were not the same as after the defeat of Germany and Japan. After WW2 there was more upside in reconstruction than a rematch, this time no contracts for rebuilding were on offer and there was no new enemy to declare. "Terrorists" are in reality a very small and cheap adversary and linking them to more lucrative nation target is neither easy nor sustainable.
The same case exists with the Soviet/Russian governments, which have been in a state of war for the same period. With much tighter control than even the US wields over its corporate media, the Russian government makes war not only a business but headline news and entertainment, especially when other state controlled economic enterprises are failing.
Thus unless a credible new enemy is developed both military dependent governments need to maintain a level of antagonism in order to function.
The same case exists with the Soviet/Russian governments, which have been in a state of war for the same period. With much tighter control than even the US wields over its corporate media, the Russian government makes war not only a business but headline news and entertainment, especially when other state controlled economic enterprises are failing.
Thus unless a credible new enemy is developed both military dependent governments need to maintain a level of antagonism in order to function.
The US showed the Soviet Union it was willing to use the most devastating weapon in history directly upon innocent civilians. The Soviet Union was understandably touchy having just lost 1/3 of its population to war. Since then the US has shown no regret for its mass murders at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and has never experienced the ravages of an invasion but instead has consistently moralised to the rest of the world about how it should do things to be as righteous as the US.
Stalin already knew about the bomb when Roosevelt told him about the first test. He was expecting Stalin to react when he told him about it. Stalin had spys who told him about it. They had been working on the bomb. The US finally realized this after Russia detonated their first bomb five years ahead of the predictions by the defense department.
If the US is such a horrible place to live then leave. You should fit in perfectly in Europe. Lots and lots of liberals just like you. I should know since l’ve been twice. It’s also where l plan on moving to in short order. l will be surrounded by people with your political leanings but they’re nicer than most people think. I have a problem with their beliefs, but not as people. I have friends l met there who never bring up the subject of politics.
5 million. That's the estimated number of wounded and dead had we gone with a land invasion. The Japanese thought it would happen as well. They were already well into preparing for that invasion. Given how they fought in previous battles in the pacific where few if any enemy personal(military and civilian) were captured alive, it seemed logical to think they would fight that way during an invasion on their own soil. Not invading and dropping the bomb instead saved lives, a lot of them.
If you believe that estimate I'd like to help you out with your pickup truck, I take bitcoins. The fact that Stalin killed all these people really doesn't have much to do about how Russians feel about invasion.
Naturally civil bloodshed is going to kill the most people just like it did in the US but this is no more relevant to the US relation with Russia than vice versa.
Naturally civil bloodshed is going to kill the most people just like it did in the US but this is no more relevant to the US relation with Russia than vice versa.
You’re not that bright, are you?! You’re the one who brought up Russia. Since when has Russia worried about being invaded? Putin has used it as propaganda on his own people. So, it’s oblivious you haven’t researched anything about Japan and the former Soviet Union.
You’re definitely a liberal. The first thing you did was insult me, just like a petty, obnoxious child. Yes, l live in Georgia and l’m originally from Texas. You’re a bigot, just like your liberal cohorts. Spare me from your bullshit. Good thing you’re most likely living on the west coast. If we were face to face, l would bury you. I’ve never been accused of being a nice guy. I used to be a dealer. I still keep in touch my good friend from South America. If l had a problem he would set everything back to normal. You’re a problem. Don’t be a problem.
You’re definitely a liberal. The first thing you did was insult me, just like a petty, obnoxious child. Yes, l live in Georgia and l’m originally from Texas. You’re a bigot, just like your liberal cohorts. Spare me from your bullshit. Good thing you’re most likely living on the west coast. If we were face to face, l would bury you. I’ve never been accused of being a nice guy. I used to be a dealer. I still keep in touch my good friend from South America. If l had a problem he would set everything back to normal. You’re a problem. Don’t be a problem.
5 million casualties was the number presented to Truman by his generals. It’s the reason he authorized the use of the atomic bomb. This is common knowledge. You’re just making a fool of yourself. Next time make sure you have all the facts before you reply to one of my opinions. Better still don’t bother me again. It’s becoming tedious.
They lost more than 1/3 to Stalin’s reign of terror, due mainly to the fact that they had been disarmed. pk2 why don’t you put some effort into getting the facts instead of the liberal trash being spewed by mainstream media. They lost 25 million during WW2 and 40 million to Stalin’s tyranny.
2 posts
+5.2 votes
by
doc holiday
history's greatest murderer is now its greatest hacker
1 post
+7 votes
by
foster
I'm not a national I'm a local -Taiye Selasi
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foster
I'm not a national I'm a local -Taiye Selasi
You don't have to be a libertarian to question the premise of the nation state. An author's human awareness brings the same conclusion.
3 posts
+9.2 votes
What Is The Thucydides Trap?
You're an "S" and an apostrophe short. It's Thucydides's trap and it's a theory that suggests war and conflict is the natural order of things and the emergence of new nations inevitably lead to war with the older nations they replace. More man the killer ape stick than anything else,but it takes a brave man to argue against.it- sadly.
Its what makes war almost inevitable for us
"Reviewing the past five hundred years, the Harvard Thucydidesโs Trap Project has identified sixteen cases in which a major rising power has threatened to displace a major ruling power. Twelve of these sixteen rivalries ended in war."
"Reviewing the past five hundred years, the Harvard Thucydidesโs Trap Project has identified sixteen cases in which a major rising power has threatened to displace a major ruling power. Twelve of these sixteen rivalries ended in war."
4 posts
+45 votes
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iron jizz
End of nations: Is there an alternative to countries?
I was disappointed by the article, there seems to be no awareness of distributed systems of governance like bitcoin.
Modern nations are basically about providing a trustworthy authority to govern commerce. Some countries like Singapore are especially good at this while others are left to shake downs like protectionism and arms manufacture under the constant threat of war.
Decentralised systems with no-trust elements (like bitcoin) or a reputation systems (like the one here) are the most logical apparent alternative to existing government.
Modern nations are basically about providing a trustworthy authority to govern commerce. Some countries like Singapore are especially good at this while others are left to shake downs like protectionism and arms manufacture under the constant threat of war.
Decentralised systems with no-trust elements (like bitcoin) or a reputation systems (like the one here) are the most logical apparent alternative to existing government.
I don't understand the premise of a nation, when they say a nation competes what does that mean? Is there some kind of contest like the olympics? Who are the contestants representing each country? Who are the judges etc, it's all bullshit trying to describe after the fact people just going about their own lives. Who wakes up in the morning saying I'm representing say Chile today, and I'm going to beat those fuckers in Lithuania?
12 posts
+45 votes
by
w4wendetta
World Riot I
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w4wendetta
World Riot I
folks lets call this beast what it is, a global street revolution.
while corporate media tries its best to treat all this as unconnected, one-off, occurrences that gets pretty fucking ridiculous when 20 minutes of the 30 minutes news is riots (the other 10 is still commercials to return our wages back to the machine itself).
of course it's global that's what your media has achieved, a whole world scared of the same thing, an ultimate lowest common denominator. well now you fuckers have divided by zero and it doesn't feel very good does it. suddenly you're not so sure?
fear not, the greediest of the bunch will see a profit in spade calling soon enough. the world riot is an irresistible story even if it is the truth. however what comes after that will arrive between our cheeks boys and girls, the gang of leaders that will "restore order". because let's face it these people are getting dangerous and they are holding umbrellas and some have completely unregulated paintball rifles, someone could lose an eye if we don't lock them up and get on with normal life. will it require a few more powers? more than last time? yes, times change and these new agitators are equipped with texting, it takes ages to read all this, some of it still doesn't go through us to begin with.
please take my remote away, im falling asleep through it this time. you're all getting cancelled soon enough.
while corporate media tries its best to treat all this as unconnected, one-off, occurrences that gets pretty fucking ridiculous when 20 minutes of the 30 minutes news is riots (the other 10 is still commercials to return our wages back to the machine itself).
of course it's global that's what your media has achieved, a whole world scared of the same thing, an ultimate lowest common denominator. well now you fuckers have divided by zero and it doesn't feel very good does it. suddenly you're not so sure?
fear not, the greediest of the bunch will see a profit in spade calling soon enough. the world riot is an irresistible story even if it is the truth. however what comes after that will arrive between our cheeks boys and girls, the gang of leaders that will "restore order". because let's face it these people are getting dangerous and they are holding umbrellas and some have completely unregulated paintball rifles, someone could lose an eye if we don't lock them up and get on with normal life. will it require a few more powers? more than last time? yes, times change and these new agitators are equipped with texting, it takes ages to read all this, some of it still doesn't go through us to begin with.
please take my remote away, im falling asleep through it this time. you're all getting cancelled soon enough.
The whole thing seems so dystopian like when they show the news in a sci fi movie and the world is falling apart.
I read a column once about Russell Brand, the one quote i can recall from it was;
"just make sure you don't start your revolution when X-Factor is on the telly Russell, or nobody will turn up"
Says it all, in my humble opinion.
Just my 2p
Cheers. BB
"just make sure you don't start your revolution when X-Factor is on the telly Russell, or nobody will turn up"
Says it all, in my humble opinion.
Just my 2p
Cheers. BB
No doc it was co-opted by political opportunists and sold out to corporations before it was old enough to shit by itself.
7 posts
+42 votes
by
alpo
Do they not teach history anymore?
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alpo
Do they not teach history anymore?
Fascism, fear of different people, chest-pounding shit it's all pretty fucking old and has left a lot of stories that all ended badly. Don't people know any of this or what?
The problem is you stopped learning history, the last decades of the 20th century showed that a dose of totalitarianism works. China and Singapore showed the world that democracy is not the only basis for for peaceful and prosperous societies, laying the political foundations for this Asian Century.
When does it ever stop at a "dose"? The OP is right; an understanding of recent history would remind people of a lot of things:
1) Times are fucking good right now, add up all the terrorism we freak out over and you have a half hour during World War II.
2) The atrocities against civilians by Whites and Asians was far worse than what a few Arabs are doing now and had a lot more support from the general population.
3) Fascism requires worship of the state and that makes war inevitable.
1) Times are fucking good right now, add up all the terrorism we freak out over and you have a half hour during World War II.
2) The atrocities against civilians by Whites and Asians was far worse than what a few Arabs are doing now and had a lot more support from the general population.
3) Fascism requires worship of the state and that makes war inevitable.
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You must be joking.
Did Romania thrive under Ceaucescu ?
Russia under Stalin or Lenin?
Did China under Mao?
Communism ranks in the same league then Fascism: All boils down to one idiot and his echelon that entitled themselves to brainwash a whole population so they can removes unwanted elements under false pretexts because: Our great leader will show us the way.
They are each others reason to exist. The oldest trick in the book. Divide and Conquer.
National socialism or social nationalism always includes physical violence. Both preach a violent revolution as the road towards them.
Not that democracy is perfect, in theory it is, but make humans responsible for a large hierarchical system and be sure that it will be infested by corruption that concentrates in the higher echelons and gradually extrudes all real assets. When those are gone debt is created until debt is no longer sustainable and the democracy confiscates your assets to pay for the debt created, through 'austerity'.
Anyway, not that it matters much, humans will do what they naturally do if unchained for all of the above. They share, congregate, exchange and transact and do that perfectly without the need for some nation state system that registers, regulates, bags and tags everyone for optimal taxation. This site is a perfect example of it an initiatives like this and other Agora's , either on the clearnet or the darknet.
Did Romania thrive under Ceaucescu ?
Russia under Stalin or Lenin?
Did China under Mao?
Communism ranks in the same league then Fascism: All boils down to one idiot and his echelon that entitled themselves to brainwash a whole population so they can removes unwanted elements under false pretexts because: Our great leader will show us the way.
They are each others reason to exist. The oldest trick in the book. Divide and Conquer.
National socialism or social nationalism always includes physical violence. Both preach a violent revolution as the road towards them.
Not that democracy is perfect, in theory it is, but make humans responsible for a large hierarchical system and be sure that it will be infested by corruption that concentrates in the higher echelons and gradually extrudes all real assets. When those are gone debt is created until debt is no longer sustainable and the democracy confiscates your assets to pay for the debt created, through 'austerity'.
Anyway, not that it matters much, humans will do what they naturally do if unchained for all of the above. They share, congregate, exchange and transact and do that perfectly without the need for some nation state system that registers, regulates, bags and tags everyone for optimal taxation. This site is a perfect example of it an initiatives like this and other Agora's , either on the clearnet or the darknet.
It showed that it *can* work (it fails most of the time, da?) for a short period of time.
China was a basket case before this (Singapore is basically a housing development) . Getting organized after your life is a mess always leads to a productive period right untill you start getting relaxed and messy again.
Shitty fascists play into anger, the best ones rally a team through a few seasons. Neither is as sustainable as a system of consent.
China was a basket case before this (Singapore is basically a housing development) . Getting organized after your life is a mess always leads to a productive period right untill you start getting relaxed and messy again.
Shitty fascists play into anger, the best ones rally a team through a few seasons. Neither is as sustainable as a system of consent.
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Tenpester
How Do REgular Chinese People Feel About The Virus?
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Tenpester
How Do REgular Chinese People Feel About The Virus?
I know I feel like shit about my countries behavior towards the rest of the world it's basically the opposite of how I want to treat people.
If my country started the virus I would be bummed and if my government acted like assholes about it I would be really pissed off. But I can't speak for anyone else and I would like to hear from real people instead of this shit show of mass media.
If my country started the virus I would be bummed and if my government acted like assholes about it I would be really pissed off. But I can't speak for anyone else and I would like to hear from real people instead of this shit show of mass media.
Wet markets in China may have started the virus, but it's the absolute incompetence of the World Health Organisation that has failed to sanction the markets that shows the utter corruption in the system.
Don't judge Chinese people. They are the same as all of us, but the CCP has a hold over not only their own population, but the people that run the WHO.
It'll get worse before it gets better.
Just my 2p, I hope I'm wrong.
Cheers BB
Don't judge Chinese people. They are the same as all of us, but the CCP has a hold over not only their own population, but the people that run the WHO.
It'll get worse before it gets better.
Just my 2p, I hope I'm wrong.
Cheers BB
While I am a Chinese, from mainland China. I feel that our human is unfortunate, and the world's health system may need to be improved. It is true that this virus started here, but no one wanted it to be there. Everyone knows that the Chinese government uses centralised rules, and people listen to the government's control. It's not democratic and honestly, I hate this system. It helped China control the covid situation just in several months, but things became weird recently. Just talking about China, there is almost no Covid in any cities, but when there are one or two cases appears, people in social media will attack them and post their personal information on websites. Majority of people don't show care or love to them but it's like if someone doesn't follow the rule he should be abandoned. I feel very weird about my home country, the CCP culture is so different in the UK (I lived in 3 years here), these two countries treated the covid with a very different attitude. I would say no one is wrong, each nation has its own style, and everyone wants the virus disappears. For me, I would rather be a global citizen, as I found myself very difficult to find identity and where should I belong to.
We are all hardwired for wanting remorse like you are expressing but even more is the natural condition of having the remorse in the 1st place. I don't think this even a question because the answer must be of course!
Will governments act like sociopaths yes will some suckers get rallied up by bullshit yeah but at the end of this fucked up day we all feel bad it doesn't matter what time zone we are in.
Will governments act like sociopaths yes will some suckers get rallied up by bullshit yeah but at the end of this fucked up day we all feel bad it doesn't matter what time zone we are in.
I have a lot of contact with Chinese and Taiwanese people regularly. In general, I think people don't really know what to believe in mainland China. There have been other outbreaks in Asia, so COVID is nothing really new. I find that there is little talk of the virus. However I think this varies regionally, though people are getting on with their lives and things are getting back to normal, slowly. In Hong Kong lots of kids aren't at school. Kids in Taiwan have returned and things are pretty contained there, too. Factories and businesses have been closing in mainland China, so there is worry in certain areas of job loss, etc.
I hope this gives a general picture!
I hope this gives a general picture!
Didn't you hear?
"there is NO virus"
(at least nothing more deadly than the common flu)
con artist's playing confident trick's.
"there is NO virus"
(at least nothing more deadly than the common flu)
con artist's playing confident trick's.
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SlimShadow
Governing People (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy entry)
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PurpleMaize
Strain for anxiety over impending coups?
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PurpleMaize
Strain for anxiety over impending coups?
Anybody have a good strain to help sooth worries over armed people storming the Capitol?
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Is Economic War Enough?
Is Economic War Enough?
If wars evolved from fists to production to technology
And war is already a great business without the misery part
And political systems are extensions of society and economy and both of these are cool with not killing a lot of people
Can we just all keep fighting over money?
And war is already a great business without the misery part
And political systems are extensions of society and economy and both of these are cool with not killing a lot of people
Can we just all keep fighting over money?
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theStrokes
Cornell West on Neo Fascism
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theStrokes
Cornell West on Neo Fascism
One of the most articulate and compelling philosophers in the English speaking world.
A disputed territory on the Danube has created a loophole through which a new state might be created.
Sorry but we Europeans just don't get it. Instead of doing anything with their "liberties" the 1st thing they do is form a bureaucracy.
still at it, now they have a coin
I am sure many biggas will be joining in on this.
I just signed this as well.
I just signed this as well.
Umm sorry to say my friend it is becoming more and more apparent to more and more people that this organisation is totally corrupt
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sarek
How Governments Introduce Surveillance Under Veil of Coronavirus Control
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sarek
How Governments Introduce Surveillance Under Veil of Coronavirus Control
If you give a mouse a cookie...
This virus is one big excuse to make us go cashless.
I was in pound land yesterday, Got 9 Quid worth of stuff, gave the till lady a tenner...
She asked me If i have change instead... I said no... she pulled out a pound coin from the endless amounts in her till... got me wondering about this theory.
I was in pound land yesterday, Got 9 Quid worth of stuff, gave the till lady a tenner...
She asked me If i have change instead... I said no... she pulled out a pound coin from the endless amounts in her till... got me wondering about this theory.
They used to create wars to cull and control us, now we are in the information age people aren't stupid enough to kill each other because propaganda tells them to so they have resorted to bio-warfare.
Hopefully it will be a war of words and bitch fighting for attention- like social media for countries. Actually its already started.
Never before have an entire global population been so scared and obedient. The ruling Elite really have outdone themselves this time.
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Trust in Government Is Collapsing Around the World (atlantic.com)
Trust in Government Is Collapsing Around the World (atlantic.com)
"People trust their peers much more than they trust their political leaders or news organizations."
This is exactly the story, governments create fear and make themselves indispensable. You are so duped my friend.
Would your buddies be making a nuclear arsenal, would anybody? It is taking both the madness and the resources to do this, who can that describe? A James Bond Villain?
No, l wouldn’t give them to your buddies either. It sounds like you swear by cnn and msnbc for all your information needs.
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ingasway
What countries are least targeted by terrorists?
Italy is for sure one of them. No one knows really why, but I think it's because mafia deals with terrorists. There are proofs that some families were trading weapons for art with isis.
Ones that government don't tie and conform themselves to the zionist regime who trade freedom for "red shield" money which doesn't exist and can only be seen as power for control, i.e. only numbers on a screen manipulated to tear each other apart so that humanity falls in state of despair so they can fund false flags to gain support of their sleepy sheep (Vietnam, Tonkin, Pear Harbour, 9/11) further manipulating the hearts of all those with hate, therefore falling for their agenda which, tbh, is nearly fulfilled.......The third temple.......when it arises, do not fall for their surprises.
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poop lion
Is Canada Fascism's Only Remaining Opponent?
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+7 votes
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neopulp
Which country best recognizes online rights?
These blokes reckon Iceland
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+7 votes
Futarchy: The Patch For Democracy
Futarchy: The Patch For Democracy
Prediction markets could be the brains Democracy needs right now.
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+8 votes
Is Europe Disintegrating? (ny review of books)
Is Europe Disintegrating? (ny review of books)
The EU peaked in 2005; we never appreciated it enough to make it last.
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jonjon
Culture and dissent evolve in Singapore's new native language
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jonjon
Culture and dissent evolve in Singapore's new native language
Repression only fuelled the growth of Singlish.
What new language? They are all old languages and the bastard hybrid dialect dosen't have its own rules or words yet. it's a mix of them!
Pahah ha mind you any growing dialect that uses "Talk Cock" to mean nonsense has my whole hearted support.
The Chinese and Cantonese have been mixing English into their language for ages. Any modern word like computer or internet etc the English is used instead of creating a new Chinese word. Its due to the unique way their Kanji etc work.
Singlish is still extremely fluid and forming If it ever settles into a new Language it will be more like the bastard mix of German, Saxon,Viking, Latin & French that is English.
Our own beloved English is a git of a bastard language as its mixed routs are why everything is so Inconsistent. Unlike most Latin or more singular sourced languages hardly anything is phonetic and the rules of both grammar and spelling never apply to the whole language making it hard to learn and a bugger for native dyslexics.
I wont even start on what happened to English in the USA over the years.
Pahah ha mind you any growing dialect that uses "Talk Cock" to mean nonsense has my whole hearted support.
The Chinese and Cantonese have been mixing English into their language for ages. Any modern word like computer or internet etc the English is used instead of creating a new Chinese word. Its due to the unique way their Kanji etc work.
Singlish is still extremely fluid and forming If it ever settles into a new Language it will be more like the bastard mix of German, Saxon,Viking, Latin & French that is English.
Our own beloved English is a git of a bastard language as its mixed routs are why everything is so Inconsistent. Unlike most Latin or more singular sourced languages hardly anything is phonetic and the rules of both grammar and spelling never apply to the whole language making it hard to learn and a bugger for native dyslexics.
I wont even start on what happened to English in the USA over the years.
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jez
Is there a big Pan-Arab Sports Tournament?
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DJ MJ
World War III (new york times)
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DJ MJ
World War III (new york times)
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I don't see the grand alliances of the 20th century wars here. There are no 1st class powers ready to fight each other.
China and the US? China won't stop intimidating its neighbors and most of them are allies with the states.
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neverEnuff
Post Modern War: Killing for Ratings
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neverEnuff
Post Modern War: Killing for Ratings
"Non-linear war" started as a musing of Putin's literary friend and became a blueprint for world leaders.
What's so new about this? I9 thcentury diplomats created realpolitlk
If its killings for ratings and the biggest arsenal on the planet is in the hands of a ratings whore yeah that might be something new
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bayou
Will Drones Destroy Border Controls?
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bayou
Will Drones Destroy Border Controls?
If tiny, low cost aircraft can fly across borders autonomosuly is there a now hole in the wall that's impossible to plug?
The thing to keep in mind is that border controls did not exist for most of human history. It's not so much that technology is disabling them as it enabled them to begin with. Roads and air transport, enabled by nation's that consolidated public needs are how we got the borders. As people increasingly gain the ability to transact wihtout the state the borders will decline.
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zephy1
Why is a country considered primitive if its population is actually growing?
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louse zoo
Cato Institute Rates Nations For Human Freedom
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louse zoo
Cato Institute Rates Nations For Human Freedom
"we mean freedom from interference—predominantly by govern- ment—in people’s right to choose to do, say, or think anything they want, provided that it does not infringe on the rights of others to do likewise" #1 Hong Kong #2 Switzerland #3 Finland ...
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My family died fighting in your wars isn't that enough?
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Canadian cheapness is not about freeloading, it's an honest, Northern winter-conservation type cheapness. Like Scotland's with more self-aware irony.
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