Im more of a uk fan to be honest ,i like the freshness that keeps the terps in.
Now for cali ive paid for£90 off tele groups and it was nice but never as good as a good homegrown if im honest ,some nice Doja,jungle boyz, BP boyz etc but nothing worth the money its just madness if im honest,other will say different .

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think that terps are probably the kicker for me. I want to be able to taste my weed and savour the difference in flavours between the various strains. Lose that side of it and I've already switched off.

I also reckon that the terps play a huge part in the overall effect of weed, perhaps more than we realise even now, so it's not just the taste that's affected when they're lost.

So...as a uk grower I'd like to throw in a few points.
PGR (plant growth regulators) are mostly how you get these rock hard leafless buds.use of pgrs normally reduces terpines by up to 30%.in the legal us market bud is heavily regulated and tested for chemicals,any hint of heavy metals or chemicals will see the batch rejected...guess where those batches go lol
Prices-with the ever increasing legal grows the price in the US has dropped from $4000-6000 a pound to roughly $800!! Obviously time of year and quality dependant.
You can see how shipping around the globe is far more lucrative than their home market.
Genetics-mainly down to a numbers game..superb clones are much easier to find when your running thousands of plants compared to the average uk grower running 2msq or less.however,same as the bud,it doesn't take long for any clones to circulate the globe!
Market-the uk market seems to be falling for the the old cost=quality and weed that smashes you to sleep is best!.so the cali imports are mainly indica dominant and do just that.this is a shame as cannabis is so much more than getting red-eyed and eating crisps and sweets!!
UK-there are growers like me everywhere in every town,I am a member of many international forums and have been for 20yrs.
My bud is artisan shit,the finest genetics grown with love and skill.
Yet...my bud looks white with trichomes but isn't this false cali look so isn't regarded as top notch by an uneducated market...that is until they smoke it!!
I would encourage biggys to grow their own!! For the price of a q of cali you could be up and running and be 100% of what you are putting in your lungs,have several varieties and a great new hobby!!
Big up the uk growers

you are going to break your arm patting yourself on the back in a min

Any tips on budget grow gear ? I’d only want space for 2 plants or something . Also does it not cost a bomb in energy if you aren’t selling

I fucking hate the term mate.

More so as we now have Cali (lows, mid, high, ultra, etc.)

I’ve tried some of the higher price stuff recently and it is EPIC.

I’m still yet to try one of those named 120quid and eighth packs from tgd.

For science and you lot, I need to, but my brain stops me every time I go to order cos I will Chong it almost as quick as lesser stuff.

Can I put a tips page up and we all chip in for the review?? 😂

Now, the stuff from just weed recently was legendary! The gushers a stand out for my terp preference.

However, the apple fritters which is same as Druid price 90$ for 7g iirc and is on point!

Like you I think uk grows can be just as special, occasionally more special as I expect our growers arent making as much as our US counterparts = Less love per plant!!!!

RealD skittles it top notch for price I don’t think it’s been beaten for me ever!

Rate everyone you mentioned, chase the terps is new and has EPIC “Cali” status uk drawer from the few I had.

It’s all subjective though to a degree, cos I tell you now if I won lottery I’d buy a lot of the higher price options 😂
But also the lower price as I usually enjoy them and like variety.

In summary I think the terms getting over used and diluted with tiers and what not making a buyers purchase even fucking harder!

Hence I love all your reviews and has helped Apex find some good stuff ❤️🤜

Surely cali mids lows whatever they are, is weed they don't want and send it over here assuming it is from cali 🤔

Totally, if it was that good then wouldn't they keep it for themselves?

There are often intro offers where you can just try a g and make up your own mind about it. I've had some great top shelf 'Cali' off here that's been so strong I've had to rest through a joint, and equally I've had some that I'd never re-buy and was thankful I'd only committed to a small buy.

And yeah, surely if it was that good it would be snapped up by the home market. I've noticed in French supermarkets over the years that good recent vintages from a couple of years previously are readily available, and the poorer new vintages are all on our supermarket shelves.

There is VAST over production of cannabis across N.America…honestly Google it- we are talking hundreds of tonnes of the stuff being destroyed (Canada destroyed 425 MILLION G’s last year!!😵)…so there is plenty of all qualities to find it’s way over here. Purchase price isn’t the issue, it’s all just shipping and risk….

Great point mate.

I’m loving sampler boxes and a great way to try a joint and keg of a few that are usually out my price range 🥳

Yep, I've taken advantage of some sample offers which are great for trying things out.

Wish there were more of those for the top shelf expensive stuff but I know they leave vendors open to abuse from trolls so I get why they're not that common.

Thanks dude, your reviews were part of what inspired me to take the plunge when I first joined LB so it's come full circle. 😊

I'm with you on those Zkittlez, the standard against which others are judged for me too!

I'll maybe take a punt at some point if I'm flush and I see some reliable recommendations so I'll keep my eye out for Apex reports on the premium offerings. 😉 💚

Cheers mate, also to correct myself

Just weeds : apple fritters is actually $70 for the 7 which is a steal imo 🥳

I’m with you about it wanting to pay out the ass for bud, it’s hard for me because I budget how much I’m going to spend but my tolerance is high so I don’t really have the freedom to throw 90 quid on a Henry when, despite it probably looking smelling and tasting incredible I don’t feel the difference until I’ve smoked loads of it, so even for a treat for me it’s out the question.

I get live resin vapes for 60 quid and when I’m WFH I’m blasting it most of the day and get 3 days out of it and that gets me stoned, not as much as I’d like but more than weed but again the price point don’t know about you but I don’t have £500 + month for loads of options I just work a normal job.

The problem I have with loads of the UK grown good weed is even here people are asking for more than they’d ask for their cali mids we’re taking like 130 a half and even if it’s really good weed I wouldn’t pay that for anything from the UK unless it’s undisputedly top tier.

That being said, I’ve never had any ‘proper cali’ from here at those prices l, I’ve had Spanish weed that said it was cali and that was nice, everything I get from the USA gets stopped in transit or turns up crispy as sin.

Agreed, I need to spend wisely and I can't justify the additional cost whether it's import or not, especially knowing what else is on offer here. I'm pretty sure I'd be disappointed.

I've had some great smoke from Spain and from Hashishin too so I'm open to imports and ordering from outside the UK, I just find Cali to be a buzzword used too often now to pass off substandard import weed as 'pure fire' when it's no better than your average Thai stick. 😂

Now if someone could just organise me a personal supply direct from a CA farm...

I've been underwhelmed so far, most likely I need to try something a lot stronger but I can't justify the cost these days

If it's PGR it's not Cali, PGR is banned in the US.

Cali mids are no better than UK top shelf.

Genuine Cali top shelf beats top shelf UK any day but good luck getting that over here, I've been to Cali a few times and their weed is legit better than anything over here. Same is also true of Canada and Washington (state).

The only legit Cali I've had off here is from Instant Grams and it was 100% worth it as I'm a quality over quantity person.

That said, you have no idea whether what you have bought is Cali or not and to be very blunt, if it's not ridiculously expensive, it's not legit. Importing and distributing top shelf USA weed is not cheap and anyone selling Cali for slightly more than UK is having you on.

IMO proper cali smokes are way better than most UK. Average cali is absolutely hit and miss.

I tend to consume 90% UK, 10% Cali. UK is good enough a smoke, it does the job, but I find top shelf calis an overall better smoking experience. The smoothness of the smokes, the slow, clean burns allows you to just relax and enjoy a joint.

People mention freshness, but if you have the right plugs you can get fresh cali too. I know of top shelf cali dropping in the US and being available in the UK the same week as they're backdoored before being sent for testing, etc. But most loose cali has probably been sitting in warehouses for months.

Hey OldmanEd Try the wedding cake top UK flower imo. Eddy🍭🫶

I'll need to give that cake a go at some point but your Ice Cream Float badder has jumped to the top of my shopping list so the bud might need to wait. 🤤

Don’t blame you lol😮‍💨

You could’ve at least pretended to engage in the discussion while dropping your adverts mate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

The hustle never ends 😂

Is it a crime to be a vendor and state that rather than try to pretend?

You’re becoming like those pop ups my blocker fails to stop….

This is not your topic and if I want to post on it as the main issue was cost on Cali mid so I added an option for the Bigger

Too many people telling people what to do on here I am a vendor with solution so yes I will post the odd link as that's what I need to do.

Maybe smoke some of your out of stock gear, chill out and reflect on what I was saying….

Had you added your comment about “hey hear what your saying about price, terps, dryness and what not, maybe I can help to change your mind *insert link*

This way you might connect with more people who in turn will click said link.

I’m just a buyer, offering you a comment of how it repulsed me away from your gear instantly.

Your comments sealed that for me and I wish you a good day 🤜

Gosh it really offends u that badly "repulsed me away from your gear instantly." ❄️❄️😂😂😂