(Please forgive the gaps in the wording on this post. The idiotic algorithm thinks i'm trying to sell off-site for some bizarre reason so i've had to break up a few words to get around it.)

Banking institutions and governments will always be opposed to anything financial that they can't (or find hard to) tax. They can't control crypto so they want to make it as hard to trade in as possible.

I've been suggesting people get crypto ban k acc ounts for a while now, i've no idea why they aren't more popular on here. Crypto.com is OK, cryptopay.me is even better (in my opinion). I have both accounts and the debit cards work most places in the UK. You can't do some banking like standing orders etc with them, (although direct debits do work), but the important thing is you can transfer GBP between your high street ban k and the crypto ban k seamlessly because it's only when it appears in your crypto account that you then exchange it for BTC. Until that point it's a standard GBP ban k trans fer.

Seems to be a long term solution to these issues and it's as simple as downloading an app, taking a few pictures of your face and ID etc, link the account to your high street bank account and bingo, no more issues buying crypto.

Just my 2p but it works for me.

Cheers. BB

Bitcoin is here to stay my friend. It takes 20 years for anything to go mainstream. They were saying the same things about the internet in the 90's and look at it now.

Good point! My bank was initially very reluctant to let me buy Bitcoin, all ok now but I def got the feeling they’d rather I didn’t.

Yes, the blockchain is a rival to the banks as it's a far superior instrument to the current fiat banking system. Corruption would stop with the use of the blockchain. It has the capabilities of stopping wars. The bank hates Crypto and will always try to take out the competition.

Your card has definitely been locked due to a cancellation or chargeback. It can take up to 7 days to unlock. Do a transfer instead mate.

Maybe pay true pay pal on paxfull, should work if you don't mind paying the fees

Have you tried bittylicious?

Thanks, I finally got Coinbase sorted and transactions now nice and easy :)

Local bitcoin always works well its Peer 2 peer and does not require ID which is nice;)

Thanks! I’m still getting nowhere with Binance and Coinbase!

No worries my friend, I find it a lot simplier than the bigger websites

Do you pay any fees for buying btc on their website?

Bitpanda works well. But takes about 24 hours for a sepa transfer with basic verification.

Thanks, I’ll make a note :)

Have any Crypto ATMs in your city?

Not a chance in the small town I live in!

try bittylicious

Thanks, I’ll look them up :)

are you using a card or a bank transaction of some kind?

Using my debit card. I get a message saying that it’s been processed but then it fails or is cancelled. I suspect my bank doesn’t support purchasing Bitcoin, in which case I’d rather they just told me!

I used localbitcoins last time I bought, got more for my money than when I bought with bittylicious

Thanks, that’s good to know :)

Hi
I face similar issue with coinmama; my bank blocks one of 10 tries with the card.
Less problems with wire transfer but still randomly .
Hope this helps

Sounds like the issue is with your bank if they're not allowing the transaction to be processed. I use Coinbase myself and bar the fees being a bit steep I found it very straight forward and quick. If you just send them a valid I.D and bank account you get Level 2 verification within a few hours and anytime I've purchased BTC it's been instant.

Bittylicious are also fairly easy to use and can send the BTC directly to the address provided by the Vendor. I think Vikosh has a helpful step by step guide on LB Help or else in Noob Safe Space. I don't have the link handy unfortunately but I'll try find it if I can.

Thanks - I think it must be my bank, despite them denying it, because it’s happening with 3 crypto currency platforms. Coinbase was quite easy to set up and is by far the most straightforward to use so I might have to set up an account with a different bank just for this. It’s crazy!

You need to look at why it's surging. Paypal have just announced the will be rolling it out in weeks opening it up to their 2.8 mil users. full roll out by jan 2021. Thats extremely fast meaning the tech is in place. The graphs haven't looked this good since 2017 when it last popped. I would strongly advise to anyone to buy bitcoin and hold. 2021 is going to be full of good news as adoption is getting rolled out behind the scenes globally.

Can't teach the poor pal. Been in crypto for about 8 years these idiots will look back on this and regret it in 18months. The biggest wealth transfer in history is happening in front of there eyes and they cant see it deaf, dumb and blind comea to mind

lol exactly it mate. I didnt want to sound like a dick. But jesus guys buy BTC. We are still technically early adopters here. trust me when I say I'm holding every bit. I tried to tell a group of friends to buy it as soon paypal made the announcement and they wanted me to convince them why xD The general answer was well I dont understand it so im not going to bother. Lol thats the answer in itself, the general population have no idea how to use it meaning you will cash in on their stupidity and ignorance as big companies handle regulation. You will have no choice but to understand it in a couple of years.

You can lead a horse to a well full of money and physically stuff cash in its mouth and it will still spit it out and complain it wants more of the same.

I can't comment with any level of authority or understanding. However, I was advised against it as an investment, by a close friend of mine who works as a professional trader in Taiwan. No flexing, she's a ninja. But, I can't speak from any personal experience of wealth building. People like yourself have tangible, if not purely anecdotal evidence to bring to the table. In terms of investment, crypto is still speculation with no firm backing. We can all earn money from speculation, but it's not where I would put my hard-earned pennies. If you're winning, all power to you. I would suggest attacking people's ideas instead of attacking them personally. Not gambling doesn't necessarily make someone an idiot. Neither does having money make someone intelligent. Horses for courses. Smart phones don't make people smart. It's a funny old world.

bitcoin is pure bullshit and greed the same as every other investment market so it's impossible to know for sure why/when/how but it'll keep going up and then crash "unpredictably". (people like to claim bitcoin is "different" from traditional markets/commodities, it's not. It was supposed to be but it's not).

It makes now a bad time to buy your bud too, buying fees will be higher as people don't want to sell at value while it's climbing by the minute... tx fees likely to fluctuate too so keep a very close eye on those sending fees biggas or you will lose out!

I'm glad we have btc so we can use all these great online sellers but I fucking hate bitcoin itself so I don't have anything useful to add to my rant sorry lmao

This is why I can't buy atm. I used my last bitcoin went to buy more to get a 3.5 and its gona cost me nearly 55 quid for a 3.5 I'm sorry I just cant pay thos prices. It's sad as I was enjoying my purchases on here but now it's just way to expensive

It's just too unstable to risk punting serious money on . There will be a much safer(and less lucrative) investment window along.

Hi zz87..no exactly what your saying about bitcoin prices..fucking crazy !!! I use Bittylicious for coins atm..but noticed today the prices went up at least 10%..extra from last week..just as FreddieLaker says this is a realiable Source to get your bud!!!
Some expensive prices that do go Upwards occasionally!!!! And as for the bitcoin!!If there was another way to pay without using bitcoin .id be as happy as you would be lol..I know a few people that have problems with using bitcoin !!just the way it is atm..and prices we have pay or not having any bud!!! Whats most people's Choices ?...

Guys i'm telling you. Crypto.com when you get one of their cards you are paying almost zero fees on all transactions. You will get stung moving the coin from your own wallet to LB market. But at least crypto.com is less of a hit.

check out the app anyway

Yeah the only reason we have to use bitcoin is because weed is stupidly still illegal thats not littlebiggys fault! hopefully one day in the future we can change the laws and have this site but without the BTC middleman! that'd be cool as fuck haha :D

It's a high risk investment, volatile, and definitely not long term. Win fast, lose fast. Steer clear. The big money was made a long time ago with bitcoin. Join the hype train, take your chances.

I have to disagree bud! it's bottom has been reached. it's been stable for months. its forbes 2020 top investment over gold. It's peak its hit before means it can surpass this. when the last bitcoin is mind it will sky rocket. all banks are moving towards adoption. all companies are moving towards blockchain. no matter what crypto is used this will be good for bitcoin as it is the leader and holds most value. any market exposure regardless of the coin is good for bitcoin. paypal will be introducing it to the world. facebook opened up the discussion. We are nearly there. There will be a set group of digital currencies. make no mistake bitcoin is here to stay and has been. its only just the beginning.

You made an investor angry with this comment and they left some lies/propaganda/insults below so I'm just putting this reply here so people can see it before reading the lies.

They claim BTC is the "Biggest wealth transfer in history" ask why do they lie? Bitcoin is worth what ~200billion in total value, that's not even a drop in the ocean and the majority is already owned by investment groups and billionaires so the money is going nowhere except to where it always goes lmao

The sad thing is they WILL make money from BTC so why do they lie? why do they get aggressive? why the hard sell? why are they so insecure that they resort to insults?

Sounds an awful lot like desperate greed because that's exactly what it is, which is the way of the world so I don't judge anyone for wanting to make some easy money but get real please.

"Can't teach the poor" anyone who says that can go back to reddit and hang out with the Americans...

Be poor then I don't give a fuck for once in your life you have a chance to opt out of this shit show of a financial system but your still a slave to the system.

Its not crazy to say that it could definitley hit 20k again or even surpass it. Either toward the end of the year or next. Ive been involved with Crypto since 2017 just as BTC was hitting ATH. I was told about all these different coins that were going to do the same and I got superfly fucked when the market crashed back down. Long story short if you are curious about putting money into crypto be careful as the market is unforgiving and full of wankers. Its taken me a while and a lot of time ot educate myself on the crypto market best advice would be to do the same and dont hold anything for long it'll rape your emotions.

Fair enough. The transaction fee may eventually cost more than the product. My guess is eventually vendors will accept a different crypto possibly Monero (XMR) just because BTC is slow and authorities are getting better at tracing the block. Monero dosent have the same iprivacy issues as BtC.

It is going to do the same it always does at this time of year.
Once again the US fat cats are trying to use it as an investment to make a quick buck at the expense of every other user in the world and once again blockchain are fighting back by raising fees so they cant,unfortunatly it is the person who buys and uses btc to spend who gets the raw deal on fees.
Once we get back into mid January it will drop back to $20k.
So go ahead invest in something that should never be used as an investment because it screws it up for everybody else smh

I think its bottom is the same as march/april if something destabilises the "regular stock markets". However it is definitely a long term investment and i stress long term only... many vendors here prob didn't know where to turn when it hit bottom few months ago but the ballsy 1's in the know held onto it and look at the price now it will continue to rise and surpass 100k in next few years... you could wait for a "catastrophic event" elsewhere to push the price down to get in or you could get in now knowing you have to sit on the coin for a long time. Also you would need to invest a couple thousand at least to see big returns coz u would hope to receive back about 10 or 20 times your investment in the long run... thats how great investments work. Youd be kicking yourself if your turned 50 quid into a thousand instead of a thousand into 20k. You should store your crypto away from the exchange in case they exit scam

Do you guys know about the bitcoin halving which is due in march/April?

Highly reccomend understanding that and how the bitcoin cycles work , we've just come out of the 3 year crypto winter . Previous high becomes the next low , check trading view going back as far as you can , its like clockwork . I've explained in depth to many friends and family to try and help them but they just didn't get it and ive run out of sympathy for them years ago. I've spent the last 6 years learning and preparing for this next cycle with indepth analysis and leveraged every resource I could get my hands on. Trust me when I say , this is still early in another 4 years 60-69k will be the bottom. Like nigel farrage said "you all laughed at me , well your not laughing now" 😆

According to my resources retail buyers are still not in yet which means we are early , the moment they enter we will see a violent move up and this is where we want to unload every cent . Harsh but it's the nature of the markets, in order for you to win someone has to lose take your profits before someone else takes them for you.

The bitcoin halving essentialy drives supply and demand. Everyone can understand that becuase it exists in every type of market that exists
just look what happend to the price of isopropyl during covid. something becomes scarce and it drives the price up . The bitcoin halving does exactly that by increasing the time taken to mine 1 bitcoin (by half) this means it takes longer to mine making it more valuable thus driving supply and demand. Naturally the price of bitcoin will only go higher becuase of this hence the cycle that can be observed every 4 years.

There are only and ever will be 21 million btc in existence therefore it is deflationary by nature unlike our crappy usd/gbp etc where the banks print them like monopoly money causing serious economic consequences

Due to all of this I just can't see a scenario where I don't make money investing in bitcoin .

There is a bit more to it than that but wanted to give the semi short version to you guys to try and help my fellow biggas understand this magic intertnet money we all use here. I encourage you to do your own research of course.

Well why dont you ask all those idiots who invested last year when it went from 20k to over 60k,all the bitcoin guru`s were saying it would hit 100k but did it,no it did not it crashed back to 20k wiping out millions of US dollars that had been invested by idiots who still have not reached the btc value they bought at.
Sorry but i have no sympathy for anyone who invest in btc.
edit if you really want to invest in something then get your money into gold as soon the Chinese will use it to back the new international trading currency in Brics and then it will rise consistently in value.