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Although I wouldn't hold your breath, it's been requested several times. Here's a post from over 18 months ago that suggests the admin had already agreed it would be integrated.

I know init, it’s a shame really I originally thought it was a community based site but it’s just not the case given the fact vendors and customers are all shouting from the roof tops we need an alternative but the approach seems to be grim and bare bitcoins volatility

yeah been watching this a everyone has been asking for a new payment processor. this seems the farthest its got they are looking for devs

FOR.
Fuck these fees and all the cunts with big money manipulating it.

For.

Although I've seen this all before. An old vendor Super Hans tried extremely hard to get Litecoin/Monero etc introduced a couple of years ago. Had the backing of all the vendors and biggas alike and it never happened.

It does seem like jackwright might be making some headway, but many of us that have been on here a while won't be holding our breath.

Good luck though buddy. It's probably the single most important improvement to the site, and is long overdue, so I really do hope this time it works out.

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

Yeah I’ve got that the overall response is For but it’s literally not even worth it given as someone already pointed out initiative Borg ain’t been active in a while.

Yeah I think our only hope is someone picking up the project, I’ve had a quick look at what it entails and although am literally studying that issue at the minute I think it’s probably best someone with experience take on something like that.

Hopefully though someone sees the opportunity and takes it!

Hopefully someone from admin still looks.

FOR

Chances are they’ll probably need to rewrite Transaxe. If it’s hardcoded to support Bitcoin it’s not going to be a small job to change the payment method.

FOR

Although we have been through this loop many times before without any meaningful dialogue from the Borgs. Ho hum...lets all pretend we are robots, such fun!
(But don't worry, they are 100% on top of shutting down those bastard competitions and offers so we can all sleep safely at nights! lol)...

Literally all they can do since their, most-likely at this point, ex-devs have clearly abandoned them to 3 year old processes. Which nobody quite knows how to work on or fix.

One day Biggy will just fail. Mostly because of it’s clearly hideous technical debt.

FOR

Won’t buy anything with bitcoin at the mo due to fees…

Reality of this means I buy else where….

This is something I REALLY dont want to do as love this site and want to support my go to vendors… 💚 but have no other choice until something changes…🤷‍♂️😢

Totally get that, I was gutted when I had to ask my old dealer when I seen the price of the bitcoin fees but I can’t justify paying upwards of €15 just for a fee.

It’s not as if it’s happened before the only difference now is people are going to find alternative sites which sucks as LB has been awesome.

It was $120 when I tried to purchase on the 20th 🥴

Yes think alot of us are in the same situation. Looks like I'll be digging some old number up to ring then till this is sorted. Feel for the vendors on this site.

FOR

I for one love this site but it’s becoming harder and harder to utilise the brilliant products on here and community due to bitcoins instability and proven track history of being unreliable on this site.

It is also getting to the stage where it’s becoming too expensive for vendors and profits are being eaten up by transactions fees alone.

Instead of little biggy being that website everyone remembers as being “imagine how good that could have been” and continue to expand the community by allowing better accessibility for payments.

Surprised no one has suggested BCH instead yet. Seems like the likely one to move to if fees are the issue.

FOR
Or im off back to my old dealer up the road .
I dont think the admins of this site give a toss about anything except hiding topic posts that call out whats going on tbh .

Hope they can at least sort this out . Its not exactly dificult to do is it lets be honest here .

I get that feeling, it’s I’ve just noticed that this topic isn’t updating on the wall regardless of votes.

FOR, how long do we have to put up with paying ridiculous fees while there's alternatives. Obviously couldn't care less. How many times has this been talked about

Count me in - For

The transfer fee's are killing LB.

FOR

The fees for customers obtaining a joke from the administration need to be addressed. Might need to another alternative cryptocurrency.

Initiative borg last online 417 days ago.....

no reply or anything from any borgs or admin on any single one of the dozens of topics on this subject this past couple weeks, yet posts exposing dogshit fraudulent dangerous vendors like gamechanger will get immediately removed from the wall

used to be so passionate about the idea of community and gradual improvements to the site via an alleged democratic process of initiatives but that's long gone for me now

we are all pissing into the wind but it's really fucking windy out and the piss is just going directly back into our faces, you can't stop pissing though because you've been holding it in for an age

yes i totally understand that perhaps in the backend they don't have the resources to implement currency changes but they should at least use the topic wall manipulation in a productive way and actually pin a topic about this to the top of the wall permanantly till a solution is achieved, even if that solution has to be bought, paid for and implemented by biggas and not the borgs

Zero-Intiative Borg at this point.

That was when their last decent dev left them. 400 odd days ago. Nothing has been done since then really.

They need to open source the whole platform. All sensitive data aside.

But that alone is probably 6 months work. To go through everything. Upgrade all the dependencies. Fix all the broken ones. Clear the technical debt.

About a year on from starting that. We are looking at then maybe considering how to approach adding a new payment system into Transaxe. Which has obviously been only set up. From literally the ground up. To support Bitcoin.

It’s like working with the old MySpace. It’s just oldschool code on oldschool code.

Not many of us left who even understand those processes. Those approaches.

But this is where it is.

If they open-sourced the fucking code it’d be fixed in 2 weeks.

Plus all the other shit that pisses people off.

But no. It’s someones little earner. Doesn’t take a huge team to run a site like this.

Runs itself. And that’s the clever thing about the site.

Just needs modernizing. Christ. If it was worth building in the first place and it’s still nearly working. Then why not spend some of the considerable cash in improving the quality of life for your users?

I mean it’s SAAS 101. You keep users by reducing barriers to entry. The less barriers the customer has to get their outcome. Exponentially will your sales increase as convenience and novelty combine into one beautiful package. Where you can just buy some fucking nice weed without needing a PHD in nerd-dialectics to do it.

Removal of new-user barrier to entry = growth.

I wish I could do graphs. It would seem obvious.

Literally losing thousands a month, Biggy are. Potentially. 5X what everyone on here earns with a modern platform in place.

You’d double your money in 6 months with a couple of half-decent devs working on it.

Fuck. You could just have it as a full-on API. Then anyone could build a frontend for it. Just have the keys and you are away. Biggy as a service.

But without the source of the service itself. There is no easy way to add payment methods.

Not without middleware for the middleware. Which is where it then starts getting silly, and hacky, and people start losing money, or it’s all backdoored to fuck.

It’s a Transaxe core change. The only people who should be responsible for that stuff is the core Biggy team. They need to change it.

Meh. Whadda I know. I’m an idiot 😂

🤷‍♂️📢📢📢📢📢

BORGS!

Sort your lives out.

Borgs… hahaha.

If only.

Yeah I think I’m at that level where the hype was too good to be true kind of thing.

It is a back end issue by the looks of it, I suppose all I can do while I’ve got my hyper focus is keep the topic relevant and in hope that it gets picked up one day that or until my hyper focus runs out 😂😂

I gave a reply earlier mainly because inwas out and about and didn't want to to lose this topic again.

I really hope they switch up and offer using monero and eth bitcoins got its usesn but. It's a terrible coin for the job.

It baffles me that there's an escrow service presumably raking it in but something as simple as a password change on transaxe takes a week. I feel like it's one person working part time so that being said there is no chance of more currencies being added.

Its a shame because I can only see bitcoin getting worse for fees and like others have said leaves LB exposed to competition.

Transaxe have been good at times, such as taking the hit in the high fees back in May (not sure if they have during this November spike).

I just hope we get to use monero and eth soon.

FOR!

For

FOR

I’d recommend LTC litecoin. Sends are so much faster and fees are minimal. Can buy from all the usual places can’t see how that’s not a win win

I found ETH to he lightening quick too

FOR
On-line sales need a reliable payment method Or its back to on-street sales!

FOR I love this site but the BTC fees are making me (and probably everyone else) leave this site and go back to old school street dealerswhere there's no safety net or anything.
Need to find a different way to pay. I don't mind a couple $$ but atm u can't justify it. They are crippling people.

FOR

FOR
👍

For

Ive had to go back to an unreliable street source.

Wake up LB ✊🏻

I have a post up looking for a dev in this matter. It's been up months with no replies. I spoke to admin, I have the requirements they say is needed before testing. The Admin are more than happy for alternatives if they can be proven. Anyone know how to write smart contracts in solidity with immutable logic?
I would try using wrapped trx stablecoin. It's shielded, so private, and most of all stable.
If you have the skills to do this I can help fund the project.

Ah right that’s good to know, so basically we need someone with experience in this area to push it on the way.

I will find your post and see if we can get it some traction am sure there’s someone with that sort of experience.

I for one ain’t that person 😂😂 hopefully one day though!

I'm the same. I've even had a look at what's involved and it's way above my pay grade. If I can get a good dev, I can probably get the mods and run it. There's obviously a monetary incentive through the fees.
Whatever is used has to integrate with LB too. That could be another road block, even if you had the system.

https://littlebiggy.com/link/EzmSNU

This is a link to devvy borg. There's a bounty on there to complete a contract that will allow vendors to specify a currency. It's under react/js post.

Thanks for that 👍.
I’m gonna try get me head around it over the next couple of weeks for my own development but will also try to keep that topic relevant somehow am sure someone here has the skills for such task.

Appreciate your input and what you’ve tried so far, so it’s not so much LB not wanting to allow it it’s more it needs someone to implement it.

Slowly but surely we will get their! 👊

Probably not enough to just have the frontend code though.

Transaxe service itself need modifying.

It’s probably not a complex job. But where is the Transaxe source?

Impossible to fork this and work on it. That’s the issue.

It’d have been done ages ago if Transaxe was open-source.

Trivial to use the existing platform to add new payment methods. If we had the source to work from.

Been a software dev for the last 20+ years. Couldn’t see the repo for the Transaxe service. So impossible to make core changes.

FOR

22 pounds for a 200 pound transaction. That’s where I draw a line with this. Love this site and the vendors but there really should be an alternative token not just because of this. Had one crypto/bank account shut down due to bitcoin issues also.

I probably make at least two transactions per week here but I won’t be with these fees. Maybe once a month. Hopefully a resolution which suits both sellers and buyers can be found. This really should be a priority considering how it could adversely affect sales.

FOR.
Times are hard enough without these crazy btc fees.

FOR

please implement monero

FOR

Street weed for me until this madness ends.

USTD is the way forward, price never fluctuates and I don’t think the fees are mad, correct me if I’m wrong

FOR The BTC madness needs to end. Spent over £40 in fees for a £200 transaction today!

FOR

USDC stable Coin

Count me in - FOR
last spend for me cost £34 in fee's buying and sending for £196 purchase, fuck me its getting to expensive to buy. hope this changes and admin sort this out. Love & Light

Init! Hopefully the fees comes down soon and gives enough time for devs to get an alternative tested and running to give people an alternative when the fees go high again.

FOR

Let us use $FTT

Add $BNB to this list of highly reputable Internet coins

FOR.

Bitcoin is out of control. Many other platforms prefer LTC. It’s quicker and cheaper to send. No brainer in my opinion.

I'm not an expert in Blockchain by any means but isn't this what the bitcoin lightning network was introduced to fix?

Could LB not integrate lightning network into its payment system? I'm sure last time I sent via lightning it was like 30p or less for the transaction and didn't involve anything complicated

This is a good point, there's been a few upgrades to the blockchain which haven't been done on transaxe

FOR

Monero should be an option on here - one of the most anonymous cryptocurrencies. Seems like a no brainer

Yeah seems like a no brainier until I gets hacked again.. lol

Literally got hacked a week ago 🤦‍♂️

The cost of an 1 hour 51% Attack on Monero is Roughly $16,600 per hour

Compared to Bitcoin it’s
$1,694,830 per hour

Damn, I wasn’t aware of this. Not as plugged into crypto news as I used to be.
Thanks for the info!

FOR
Feels a little like being held to ransom with BTC at the mo. This place is such an ace community - needs to move with the times…

FOR. 21/11/23
These fees are ridiculous atm and i’ve taken the hit but i won’t be able to continue using LB until they calm down or an alternative payment method is implemented, which i’m very gutted about as I love LB and since i’ve been on here it’s genuinely changed my life and I’d love to keep using it, however, these fees are going to price me out

Yeah feel that! Love LB not just for the herb but the community it’s one of the few communities we got here in the UK!

FOR

I wonder who is the actual owner of this site?

FOR

FOR

Suggest BCH as alternative. Fees are tiny.

Crazy netwrok fee as vendor was charged $10 on $149 whats happening on blockchain? GAW

FOR i think the only way they will add new payments is if the Vendors went on strike, especially the big vendors on here, if that does not work nothing will, but i think thats what should be done for the greater good, if it means after all parties either save or make more money in the long run it surely is worth the sacrifice.

I dont know how LB hasn't got multiple crypto options by now? I'll order on here when BTC fees are low but when they are high i have to go eleswere.

Just hurting customers & vendors, it needs to be a priority.

FOR
About time lb sorted this one out I can’t even buy at the moment not with the fee’s so hi 😳 lb needs another payment method like lyte coin no fees 🙏 might have to look 👀 elsewhere if this carries on 😭😭

For

FOR - more customers through this

FOR

FOR
unfortunately won’t happen and will be forgotten in a few weeks when btc fees calm down the previous threads and initiatives have always been ignored by any admin sorry to piss on the parade they obviously aren’t bothered

For

Currently my $$$ is going to be going elsewhere until fees make lb viable for me again. I'm a wee bit sad about that as I've been liking the site. I expect both customers & vendors will give up in the interim & find / use other markets or locals. It's a shame as it's a great community here and would seem relatively straightforward for a dev to add an alternative payment option which would help solidify the future of lb and mean it'd not shed its users on a crypto hiccup.

FOR i made an order elsewhere using litecoin last night. it felt sooo good.

For
Don't understand it enough to make further comments

would much rather use monero for privacy and fee reasons

For

For what it's worth

FOR
Fees have always been an issue in the few years I've been using this site. They turn a good deal into a meh kind of deal depending on the day/time/ wind direction. Some alternatives would surely be beneficial for all

FOR

It's 2024 man.
Surely you can implement a selection of payment methods, and we as buyers could use whichever is most convenient at the time
It'd be good for buyer, vendors and the Big Biggy.
I'm waiting to buy from my regular seller, but funds are tight at the mo, and I can't swallow a £10+ fee this time.

I think you have failed to see what it is people want here, I’ve read down your comments, it’s not about the removal of BTC at all it’s about alternative.

Which turns out has been in the pipeline for a while just not picked up, I’ve seen blockhead is looking at running USDT alongside as an alternative.

I would prefer to pay in bit coin but at times like this I would also like to save what money I have and use a cheaper coin to allow for a more accessibility when it comes to payment and not just one.

For example, I normally buy your hashes which are banging and at a great price, so when I would finish ordering what i would normally order I would treat myself to one of your hashes. I haven’t been able to do that as the fee is replacing the price of the hash, neither of us gain anything apart from bitcoin.

The way he was being abrasive for no reason, making us all look like we have zero clue about anything and he’s the expert while dismissing everything we say while he doesn’t have the gall to even read the posts before shitposting like a child.

Aye I don’t know as much about BTC as you, but there’s a way to have discourse without coming across as a condescending prick. You’re no better than anyone here, just because you’re a reputable seller it doesn’t mean you can talk down to anyone.

I mean if you disagree that’s fine but why post this? It adds nothing meaningful and you haven’t a real reason or arguement.

I’d love for you to elaborate, especially as a known seller on here whos business may be adversely effected by high BTC fees.

The issue is biggas fail to mention btc went up by 24.8% in the last 30 days .. and of course day traders are trading the shit out of btc hence the high fees/ delays and etc..

You inconsistent biggas only complain when btc fees are high but are all quite when fees are cheap and normal..

If you are FOR then Name one alternative coin that can match BTC…

Btc sorted us out for years and now cause the coin is pumping and fees are high everyone wants to jump ship 🤦‍♂️

it's not about jumping ship at all it's about having other options so we can continue to use this market when BTC fees render this market useless which has been over a week now, i can list off about 10 vendors that want other options like LTC or monero, if we were using LTC i would have about £500 a year extra to spend on here that isn't lost in BTC fees!

and a simple solution to your problem would just be to put in your manifesto that you only accept BTC no other coins, all orders in other currencies will be cancelled

we can't expect BTC to get more stable in the future, i can only see more frequent pumping and pisstake fees at this point amongst a few weeks of "Stability" here and there where the fees are still an absolute pisstake tbh

you probably noticed my lack of orders as well, i'm back to street dealers now lol

The thing is you can receive your funds in an alternative coin with low fees and faster transactions for the buyer, then swap it into BTC if you wanted BTC.

Hypothetical. You get £150 worth of ETH for the order and the buyer has only paid £152 total to pay and transfer funds for the order. Once funds are released to you , you can swap the £150 worth of ETH into BTC if you don't want it in ETH

If they paid using BTC that £150 order would cost them £180 , but you will still only get the £150 worth of BTC in the end. It costs the buyer an extra £30 just for using BTC. Not only is this not sustainable for the buyer but it's also not good for your business as it puts people off buying when fees are this high.

ETH is not a reliable coin.. for many reasons and one being it’s creator vitalik.

And this high transaction fees are temporary.. and are due to btc price moving up by 24.8% in the last 30days.

Why is it not reliable?

You can swap your ETH into BTC if you didn't want the alternative coin the second you received it, I don't really see the issue if you can simply swap it?

So I have to already wait 16 days for escrow to release the Money then I have to do another transaction to change it to BTC?..

you’ll have to do your own research why it’s not reliable when the creator can literally turn back time and reverse transaction or freeze funds etc..

Check out Bitcoin University on YouTube for all your answers

Almost all crypto apps have swapping features built in, it takes seconds to swap thousands of dollars , you literally input the amount and click swap. It would take less time than the message you just typed out, yet saves your customers huge amounts on fees.

The few seconds it takes you to do the swap would be far outweighed by the increase In orders you would receive , and money you would make, if an alternative coin was accepted on here.

Increased orders for how long?

What happens when Police start to pressure the creator of ETH to freeze funds or reverse funds or wallets etc?

Bitcoin has been sufficient from day 1 and still is.. yes it’s temporary high fees but that’s only Temporary.

I think everyone is getting too comfortable buying drugs of the internet.

An increase in orders for ever hopefully, fees are higher than other coins even when they are normal.

It's not like it's a one off, this happens every few months with bitcoin and roughly once per year to the current extent. When fees are normal they are still higher on BTC compared to others. If bitcoin continues to increase like people speculate it will, then worse is yet to come for fees.

You can simply swap your coin to BTC, but having alternatives with lower fees cant be a bad thing. Maybe even an option for the seller to choose what coins they accept. No one is saying get rid of btc, but having alternatives can't be a bad thing.

So your just going to ignore everything I said about how ETH creator can freeze transactions etc.

For any vendor who has more than 6kg of weed/hash/shake that’s 4 years starting prison sentence

Which alternative shitcoin do you suggest?

BCH would be a real choice for this website however to replace or sit next to BTC for payments. BCH fees are tiny in comparison!

BTC has a potential successor, it's called Ergo (ERG).

Not saying it would be right coin for this website at the current time, but just putting it out there for awareness in case anyone didn't know about it already.

I don't know enough about it to comment, I did ask for more info but you mentioned I would have to do my own research.

If vendors can choose what coin they accept, they accept the risks that come with the coin they choose. You can stick to BTC and others can choose what every they are comfortable with accepting.

It's not just about the fees I would much prefer to use a privacy focused coin like monero. There are chain analysis companies tracking every bitcoin payment

Thanks. “You” well that’s not true, check my short post history. And as I stated I have had other issues with bitcoin that have nothing to do with fees.

Nobody said jump ship, if you read the OP - we want an alternative option, which I don’t think isn’t reasonable for a variety of reasons? If we’re talking of dumping BTC completely then yes, then this should be a different discussion but that’s not what we’re talking about at least to my eyes.

It’s not bitcoin fault that your sending btc directly to the site or for whatever reason your bnk wants to close your account..

I have trust in the admins.. they sorted us out when shit hits the fan and they have a reason to sticking to btc..
I hope they can see past the riffraff and continue stick to only BTC..
because for many reasons one being BTC creator is Satoshi.

Someone mention FTT.. I don’t know if they taking the piss but that’s a known Scam coin.

Another person said USDT.. the creators of USDT are the biggest crooks.. check out coffeezilla on YouTube and see what he thinks.. his probably the biggest crypto scam buster..

All coins have flaws the most reliable is BTC.

For all your questions just Watch the videos from Bitcoin University

FOR

Bruv it was a joke for $FTT lmao. And Bitcoin fees are not up just because of price increase and day traders lol

I believe it's a case of 1st purchase you pay for postage (and I'm not sure if it used to say that that initial purchase needed to be above a certain amount? I have $150 in my head for some reason?), then after that you get free postage on items that aren't Featured Prices for future purchases. I think.

Interesting! Thanks for asking this @CharlinhpJesus - We would like to know too :)