Marginalize the judiciary? Check. Shock the media into weakness? Check. Stack the government with Generals? Check. Am i missing anything?

Embolden the police, check.

Only question is what is needed for this. Will provocation of enemies be enough to create the terrifying event they need to grant Trump extra powers? Or will they hire mercenaries?

I honestly don't think Trump has the brains to plan a coup. But I think he's happily bought sick people like Bannon to think for him. I'm horrified by what the damn Orange Turd has already done with his executive orders. He's doing his best to destroy environmental protection and make the rich richer. And the saddest part is that his hardcore supporters STILL think he is doing what he promised them. WTF? Apparently some of them will still be praising him while he crushes them.

Yes I can never figure why white trash is so cool with the guy but I read something (I can't remember where) that said they hate on people right above them like bankers and lawyers and the like but really love the guys above that. People like Trump say fuck you to upper middle elite and the lower eat that up.

He's just saying 'fuck you' to the elite. He doesn't mean it- he's taking care of the filthy rich, while labelling the upper middle class "rich". How stupid are people?! He's using the masses against each other, like the elites have done for centuries. It's all such a fucking sick joke!

I guess l've been living in another dimension for the past year. Trump gave more than 90% of the middle class a tax cut, and by the way, the corporations did exactly what he said they would do when their rate was cut to 20%. They gave their employees bonuses and pay raises, something that never happened under Obama. My God, why don't you try to get your info from reliable sources, not the mainstream media. If you're not willing to do that then take all the nonsensical bullshit you've been spewing here and insert it into your anal cavities. I recommend using some KY. I used to use a lot of it on my patients when l worked in my local hospital. It really helps when it comes to enemas. You definitely need one.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not get all my information from mainstream media... any of them. I listen to many sides, especially information that each omits - that is often the key. I also include my own personal experience, and research.

Trump has a love/ hate relationship with the elite probably because he has always been a new money outsider.

I lived too close to NYC to avoid all Trump's antics, and media exposure, starting somewhere around 1980. It's not a stretch to believe that he hasn't changed all that much since then.

In regard to the big tax breaks you mention, yes, some good has come from it, but how much? Those middle class breaks have a deadline, the other breaks do not. Why?

Too much of this tax break is similar to Reagan's 'trickle down' economics. Did that work well for you?

The basic premise really does sound reasonable, but it is impossible. Regardless how the ultra rich spend their money, they will never purchase 1000 homes to live in, or 10000 vehicles to drive. But if the middle class truly still existed, they would be doing just that. They would be putting that money back into the US economy. Time had proven that the ultra rich are more like hoarders with money. That's why offshore havens, and tax shelters have grown exponentially over the past 30 years.

I'm glad for logical disagreements, backed by facts. But I have no interest in hate, or aggression, there is just too much of that already.

For the record, I still hold hope that Trump does more good than harm. At the very least, I believe that our Constitutional Republic will be made better for the shake up that the current administration is causing.

You wouldn't believe the message l was gonna send you. Definitely the longest one on this website. I made all my points with the information on hand that refuted pretty much everything you sent me with the actual facts to back me up. What is actually driving me is the only thing that really matters now. It's an 83 y.o. woman who l call mom.

Despite what you claim, a lot of what you had to say came straight out of the left's playbook, nearly word for word in some places. I don't get my information from social media or any of the usual suspects. I get it from a source that doesn't have an axe to grind or a personal agenda that benefits themselves.You can't find that nearly anywhere anymore.

Yes, l remember Reagan's trickle down economics and it served me well. You sound exactly like the left. They despise him because he did an end run around the mainstream media and made his points directly with the people. It drove them nuts.

I don't care about how the ultra elites send their assets off shore. The only reason they did was because of all of the taxes and regulations the government forced on them. Obama added 24,000 pages of new regulations to what was already a nightmare of bullshit they had to deal with. The left has always used them as a distraction and to turn one group of people against another. By the way, l'm not a republican. I blame them just as much the democrats for the mess we were in before Trump took office. They're in panic mode now. He is screwing up everything they've built for themselves over the past 80 years. Trump isn't new money. His family was already rich. He got an inheritance of $20 million and then made himself a billionaire because he does have an acumen for business, which is exactly what the country needed. It's the lawyers and professional politicians that ran the country into the ground.

What am l? You say there's no middle class now so what am l? I've had money and l've been homeless. You were offended by what l told you. I'm offended that you were so condescending to me. I remember 1980 just fine. I remember how Carter fucked up everything he tried to do during his one term in office. I can go back even further. I remember the long lines of cars at gas stations during the Arab oil embargo. I don't need a history lesson from anyone. Did you know that was one of the times that we reached def con 2. Most people don't. That's my history lesson.

I'll take my sabbatical now and leave you to your own devices. I feel that this conversation is being wasted on you.

I don't hate you but l do get aggravated at times. l simply state my opinion with the information l have on hand, information that's been 100% accurate since l found my source. I suggest you run to your safe space and ponder the micro aggression you believe l'm guilty of concerning your opinion. If you want to debate anything l've said here l'd like nothing more
but l don't feel like l should have to walk on eggshells to do it. Grow a thicker skin and get back to me. I'll do the only thing that drew me to this website in the first place. Buying top drawer flower. Do what you want. I doubt l'll ever have to state my opinions again. It's pointless. Thank you for making me realize that.

Later

I would love to have access to this source you have, with absolutely no axe to grind, or agenda, it would make life easier.

Please tell me how this comment is not aggressive - "If you're not willing to do that then take all the nonsensical bullshit you've been spewing here and insert it into your anal cavities. I recommend using some KY. I used to use a lot of it on my patients when l worked in my local hospital. It really helps when it comes to enemas. You definitely need one."

Yea, I remember the gas lines, and all the crap we apparently both lived through. The only correction I will make is that one, or even two generations does not get a family into the elite 'old money' club.

It saddens me to argue over politics. But can we even agree that Nixon was a bastard with his war on drugs? Why the relentless reefer madness propoganda? Maybe for the sake of the Hurst family holdings. Idk, and I don't have the inclination to argue further with someone I would probably befriend without the political interference. Why? Because apparently we both have hearts.

My 86 yo mother is now in hospice. I try to distract myself with this site, games, etc., but it's not worth creating more negative energy in this world, there is already far too much!

I've felt the privilege of a comfortable middle class. But then I also watched my family devestated, and homeless.

I thank all that's good in this universe for the people who have helped us along the way.

No, I can't hate you. No more than I can hate the family who gave so selflessly to support me as my sister was consumed by cancer. They are apparently scary republicans... if we didn't have labels, maybe we could understand each other better.

Be well.

Yes, l read about the sister you lost to cancer. I truly am sorry for your loss. I've watched my mother lose a kidney to cancer and my father had prostate cancer and l've lost count of the number of cancerous tumors he's had removed from his face. I have to take him to his doctor March 1st to have another one removed. I can't prove it but l believe one or more of the pharmaceutical companies have come up with a cure for some, if not all forms of cancer. As they say, there's no profit to be made with a cure. I hate to be that cynical, but they haven't given me a reason to think otherwise, judging by their previous behavior.

You're right about political discussions. I hate talking about it as well, but l can't sit back and read what sounds like something people are repeating what they read in the Huffington Post, among other liberal rags. If l stand by and say nothing, it feels like I'm agreeing with everything they're saying. My original message wasn't directed solely at you, but l'm not going to send the same message to 10 or more different people. You just happened to be in the line of fire.

As for the KY and enema comment, it was harsh but it was simply me becoming aggravated with everything l was reading and the refusal of some people to take an honest look at what is actually happening concerning current events, namely things like Trump planning a coup or being racist. Give me a fucking break. Unemployment has reached a 17 year low when it comes to the African American community. Seems to me if he was a racist he would be trying to do everything possible to keep them from improving their lot in life. That goes along with being xenophobic as well. The real xenophobes are in the UN.

Your right about the two of us becoming friends. You sound like you're an old fart just like l am. We should dump the political discussions and focus on something that really matters...buying and burning as much flower as humanly possible. I think it would be a better use of our time;-) I'm still going to take my sabbatical, but only when it comes to politics. There's nothing to be gained from it. I'm removing my earlier message l sent you. I really don't want to have to deal with this subject again if someone finds it offensive and decides to stir the embers.

As for my source. Yes, a lot of people would love to know where l get my information. I've had my source since 1996. It was the reason l cut off any political affiliation with the two party system. I voted for Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky during the last election. He's a republican but his views are more inline with the Libritarian Party(yes, l know l didn't spell it right but my spell checker isn't working for some reason). Gary Johnson was just too goofy for my taste. Too much flower l guess. Paul was one of the first to drop out of the republican primary. He's a medical doctor who believes we should legalize flower nationally. That's more than enough reason for me to vote for him. Shrinking the size of government is another. I wrote him in when l voted. It was purely symbolic.

I know what you consider old money. Names like Ford, Rockefeller and Kennedy come to mind. For me new money is someone who's completely self made. Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates... That's new money to me.
While Trump is a mostly self made billionaire, he had a sizable head start. Who knows where he would be if he would have started from scratch, especially when we're talking about real estate. That usually requires financial backing. That's hard to obtain if you don't have any collateral to begin with.

I gotta ask you...How in the hell did you end up on this website? I know how l got here. I've made no secret as to why I'm here. One word, flower. You however are a mystery.

Later


Crap. It's not letting me remove my earlier messages. Anybody who's reading this, just understand that l will not respond to anything having to do with these messages. I'm done.

Deal! From one old fart, to another, politics blows! I hate it, but consider it to be completely irresponsible to not use the hard won right to vote. As I think I said, love him, or hate him, Trump is at least making people wake up. I don't know if they're thinking...no jab there. I include myself in the multitude that is just doing the best they can with what they've got.

I think we agree more clearly on the pharmaceutical tyranny. Notice how those doctors of old CURED diseases, like smallpox, polio, etc.? Notice how many cures have been found in the past 75 years? None, now they just keep finding new conditions to treat - indefinitely!

I found this site by scouring the internet for years, looking for help for my sister... and me.

She was not receptive to cannabis until a few years before she passed. But before that I had moved overseas, and no longer had any contacts to send her to to buy decent weed. And considering my sister's personality, she couldn't make contacts. If she was a kid today they'd probably label her as having Asberger's Syndrome. She was brilliant, but not good at dealing with people at all.

Since you've dealt with your share of cancer victims, you must know how many treatments are out there. Not just from big pharma, but herbal, vitamin, nutritional, and even frequency (Rife).

I can't say what helped, but my sister refused all allopathic medicine, using only natural treatments. It took her six years to die, only accepting 'western medicine' the last year when she had to be hospitalised, then stuck in a nursing home.

By the time I got through a few scams, got bitcoin figured out, and found this site... well, I was still raising money for some Rick Simpson oil when she caught MRSA. She finally went septic with MRSA, and it shut down her kidneys.

Something that still upsets me is that MRSA is not even mentioned on her death cert., just metastasized breast cancer. It just feels like they're trying to hide the true extent of the 'super bugs' they're creating.

I use this site to buy because I've got seriously limited mobility, and I live in a fairly rural area. I've used the wonderful gift of lovely, sticky marijuana flowers, most of my life for relaxation, and recreation.

Now, with spinal injuries, digestive problems, depression, and all the other BS I live with, I'm experimenting with different medicinal strains, and edibles. I've actually got my doctor considering CBD oil because i have horrible reactions to antiinflamitories. I'm shocked, but I'll take it. In the meantime I self medicate with herb, and supplement with his narcotics, and valium when necessary.

No worries about the old posts. I hope you don't catch too much shit from others. To be entirely honest, I want to have real, honest info., and debate, on all my choices, including politics. It helps keep me honest. It's just too difficult for me right now.

Most of the plans are made for Mom's passing. I just wish I could be with her. Who knows, she was always tough, she could still outlive me!

Take care, and keep smokin' ;)

You're right about the pharmaceutical companies. Started out curing everything that came their way and they went kaput. When one of them said they created a cure for hepatitis c, my jaw hit the floor. It's the first time anything has been cured since those early days, as far as l can remember it happening. Today is a different story. To watch that prick, who was testifying before a government committee about why he raised the price of a drug his company makes, all he did was act like a smug little bastard, taking the 5th when he wasn't busy acting like an ass. If l was on that committee l would have beaten him into a pile of excrement. Let's see how smug he would have been after that.

Oh shit! Making faces at committee questions! What an evil little turd! He's still young enough to think he's smarter than all those old farts.

Whether you call it karma, or something else. That kind of cold hearted greed will not serve him well for long!

Who in the hell raises the price for a med that went for $10 apiece up to more than $700. He should have a full dance card once he arrives in prison. Well, at least he won't have to worry about constipation in the future.

This website is really chapping my ass. I just sent you a message but it wouldn't go through. Kept hitting send and nothing happened. I tried going back to a previous page but when l tried to go back to where l was before, my message was gone.

We're definitely farts coming from the same ass. I've been dealing with mental disorder(s) for the past 11 years. The most entertaining one has to be bipolar. I never add the word depression because it's only half of what makes bipolar such a joy to deal with. The manic part is just as bad, if not worse than the depression. I stop sleeping and eating for days at a time which isn't best part. That goes to the aggression part hands down. I become an atomic bomb just waiting for someone to try and defuse me. They set me off every time.

Throw on top of that generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and OCD and it makes for fun times for all. The Feds don't think l play well with others so they declared me permanently disabled. They definitely don't think l should own any type of firearms, although l do have an arsenal that's the envy of most third world countries. They should really worry about someone who has the same disorders, yet refuses to believe it and doesn't try to get help, like the dude from Florida who killed all those people in that nightclub. I realized something was wrong and it came to a head when l was awake for 19 days for absolutely no obvious reason, so l sought help. I don't have a criminal record as well, or any history of violence in my past, yet they think l'm the dangerous one. They're right in one aspect. I never leave my home when l'm in manic mode. Just way too much of a risk. The meds keep the monster dormant, but it wakes up every now and again.

I really would like to continue this conversation without the peanut gallery. The ding dongs here know enough about me already. I tried to send a personal message but l guess you have to be a vendor in order for receive them. I tried sending you a email address l rarely use but l guess this website won't let me. If you or anyone reading this that knows how to send personal messages on this site please let me know. Thanx!

Wow, yes, we've got a lot in common! I've been under the care of psychiatrists for longer than I care to figure out. I don't get manic states nearly as bad as you, depression, OCD, ADD, anxiety, and a sprinkling of psychosis. I mostly just see, and hear things that others don't. For the longest time I thought everyone was like that since I've been like that as long as I can remember. The feds don't seem to think I'm an issue... But how the hell I could hold a job anymore is a good question! Possibly because I'm too bitchy to listen to the voices either! I'm mostly harmless.

I tried to send you a message. I don't know if it worked. This website annoys the hell out of me sometimes, it's kind of like a puzzle.

Sounds what's happening with my mother. She made arrangements 3 years ago, but only when it comes to being cremated. She still hasn't told us what to do with her ashes. I don't want to think about it.

i wanna here more about these enimas

Ooh can I have an enema? And do you accept monero?

A lot of Generals don't like him, and twice lately the Supreme Court has ruled against his wishes. He's doing his best though...it's just that personality disorder.

Look out for a General that speaks out on law and order.

They want to label anti-facists as terrorists so the whole world should be genuinely worried and ready because this is the road the US has been on ever since WW2.

Oh and US media has just admitted they published lies and propaganda pushed by the US in order to pull off the coup in Bolivia last year (lol as if everyone didn't already know). This is the shit they do non-stop and make no mistake every single US media outlet (and most non-US ones) are under their full control.

Stay high, ride it out and praise the universe for placing you outside of America! Shits only going to get worse.

The Coup would be against Trump not for.... I can see a military Coup happening in the States as let’s face it they’re far from united anymore, democracy doesn’t work in a country that size with massive difference in views and feelings, it works in Russia and China as they have no choice but I feel the end of the USA is only a matter of time personally.

Spot on my bigga

The downvotes only show how out of touch some Americans are, brainwashed sheep most of them.... but clearly the States are still United look at the news, pure bliss and harmony over there lol.

It's an awesome plan B for the guy if he can keep stirring up trouble.

I have this lawyer friend in the states and every time we talk he says something about trump or state of politics in general. I'll tell him to stop being so wet and it won't happen.. then it does. every time. This went on for a few years. I tired of being wrong and decided to just listen to what he says, nod and take it as a given. So heres the scoop.. Trumps off his nut. Americas fucked. We're all fucked. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. see you all in hell. It's been fun.

On a more serious note. The media on both sides of the divide are a fuckfest pardon my french. And no. the guy on youtube or nutball ranting on Facebook is not a suitable replacement. Look into things for yourself, look up the sources and data, and assume every person of poweris out to lie and fuck you. If you're to lazy for that (don't blame you) follow that Andrew Neil guy on Twitter..he does it well.

Politics is theatre. If people think Trump is bad they should really take a better look into the alternative...

When so much time, money and effort is put into stopping one person more attention should be payed to asking 'why?'. Furthermore, if he's so bad and incompetent, the evidence so damning and given the amount of resources put into taking him down, why's he still there? What is the conclusion to be drawn?

That whole Dem/media-driven Blasey-Ford thing was so dodgy, the attacks on Kavanagh so awful (innocent until proven guilty?). No tangible evidence whatsoever. What kind of way to behave was that? Why must all women be believed, except Tara Reade? Only Ilhan Omar and Rose McGowan have been consistent.

What was with Elizabeth Warren claiming she was Native American? Yet tests proved she is not.

Nancy Pelosi withholding relief funds from those denied paycheques unless her non C-19 demands are met.

Trump is made out to be a white supremacist by the party of slavery whose candidate says "you ain't black" if you don't vote for him.

Bidens/Burisma. This is one example of how taxes are used and not to benefit the taxpayer.

How is it that China has got away with stealing so much IP, embedding surveillance into servers built in China, creating man-made islands to expand their territory, no concern for the environment, Uiygers (slavery), living organ donors, exporting C-19 whilst closing off Wuhan from the rest of China, etc., etc.? Why have all but Trump turned a blind eye and a deaf ear?

Globalism is bad shit, the worst thing that could happen. The trajectory we were on was toward a China-led World Government. With globalism there is no alternative, there is no purer form of totalitarianism. That's the real coup (d'etat) and should scare any normal citizen to the very core of their being.

The fact that Democrats and many Republicans don't like Trump is a positive for me. He's tackling the things that others just take the money and turn a blind eye to, and he's taking all the shit in the world for doing so.

Every news piece about anything these days is an opinion piece, rather than a collation of facts and sources that allow the reader/viewer to draw their own conclusion.

Wow, be careful of the Cool-Aid man. It sounds like you've swallowed Fox News whole.

Globalism is very simply evolution, it will happen with or without nations, if they would step aside we might even a have a chance at planetarianism.

First we have to make it through our 'adolescence'...the overly emotional, egocentric phase of our evolution, then maybe other Intelligences will take interest in us. I think our prefrontal cortex needs to grow a bit more...just a thought...

agreed except that cortex is going bye bye. other intelligence will have a machine to machine conversation imho.

Pah, compare that to USA’s complete domination in the twentieth century after the old European empires fell during the world wars. Everything was built to America until about ten years ago. Even now the US dominates the internet and culture whilst nuclear warheads remained locked on allies and enemies alike. China isn’t Jesus, Christ the Han Chinese need to be taken down a peg or two but it’s their turn, we’ve had it already. Fight if you want but don’t become China’s Iraq, they’ll shit high explosives over you for the next 30 years.

Should this surprise ANYONE?

This is hugely wrong and reactionary and excuse me, but you’re a fucking dangerous moron and should take to something safer like crochet or silly putty.

whatever point you make is lost to ad hominem attack. don't be hating and youll be easier to hear comrade.

I just checked out MrAndyNgo. He won't be winning any journalism awards any time soon. He works for a The Post Millenial, a right-wing Canadian news site which has in the past had links to Russia and White Nationalist groups (a former senior Editor was found to be a white nationalist).

MrAndyNgo's Twitter account doesn't appear to have any journalistic substance either. He recently said "If Donald Trump wins re-election in November, Americans will experience a wave of mass left-wing violence, rioting and looting much worse than what we've already experienced so far." That sounds like an opinion to me... also based on nothing at all. He then reweeted that Tweet for some reason.

He shows videos, calling everyone in them 'Antifa' despite zero visual or audio evidence. There's another showing people getting pushed around the other day being told to leave the area. Those people are clearly shouting "go away Nazi". He presents them as Antifa beating up random people in the street. Where's the evidence for any of that!? There's no suggestion that Antifa is there, or that the people being assaulted are completely innocent. They could just as easily have been White Nationalists screaming at the protesters... but i'm not going to say that's what they are because I don't know and neither does this jackass MrAndyNgo.

PLEASE think critically. Why am I being shown this? What are they saying it shows? What I'm I ACTUALLY seeing be shown? What happened before the camera started rolling, and after it stopped?

Edit: Check out this VOX article about Andy Ngo and Antifa... it really is a very well balanced summary of the situation. If you think you're being (or trying to be) manipulated by the "MSM", then just remember to think critically, and also just because a news source isn't "MSM" it doesn't mean they aren't trying to manipulate you too!

Your admonition to "think critically" is irony of the highest order. I don't think you're all that clear on what critical thinking is, frankly... You offered nothing but unwarranted opinion colored by your Left-wing bias. But thanks anyway for the effort.

I don’t entirely trust any media outlet, it doesn’t mean there’s a ‘deep state’, and it doesn’t mean that democrats ran a peadophile ring through a pizza shop. It definitely doesn’t mean that the whole of Portland is filled with Antifa and there’s no such thing as a peaceful protester.

If I can admit to being biased, can you? If so that puts us on a similar footing.

You lost me at VOX article. How the fuck can I take you seriously.

Did you read it though? THAT is journalism. Presentation of the facts, both side’s view without judgement.

So you think I was making sense before I brought Vox into it? If you can’t find another news source which you will believe that doesn’t, at least a little bit, criticise some of Ngo’s actions (even if it supports them overall) then it’s probably not trustworthy.

Propaganda works in all directions. If someone is telling you to listen to them because they aren’t the propaganda machine, then they probably want to give you THEIR propaganda.

Bruh I’ve read vox articles before, they are bullshit