Hydro can be used with organic nutes 🤦‍♂️

Not all PGR is bad, you’ll find a ton of growers using organic PGR like seaweed. Your claim that they are all safe is crazy though, some synthetic PGR have been linked with serious health issues.

Yes, I'm sure some have been linked. Smoking have been linked to serious health issues.
People vaped Vitamin E that have killed many until it's been figured out.
There are always bad apples but they are not the standards.

Sorry to say this info is completely wrong. PGR's used to grow weed force the plant to concentrate growing bud over leaf and stems etc, thats why the bud looks so abnormally large. PGR's are not found naturally in soil and have nothing to do with hydroponics, you can indeed have a completely organic hydro grow and you could also use food that contains PGR's in your soil grow. Also, you will now see many UK based plant food manufactuerers actually write "PGR free" as there have been studies linking PGR's to cancer.

From humboltseeds about pgr:
"They are often sold as nutrients, growth boosters, vitamins and hormone enhancers, that can be applied through foliar feeds and root drenches."

They buff up your plant and yes you can use them in soil but it isn't needed since the soil feed the plants with nutes while in hydro you must add the nutes no exeptions.

Abnormally large buds will grow on outside plants with plenty soil space where they can spread their roots freely. You can find videos of plants the size of a smaller house with buds the size of a human head.

I think the confusion is caused because the term 'organic' in food production is a protected term which means no fertilisers or pesticides were used in its production, not just that it is grown in soil.

Sorry I wanted but forgot to touch on the pesticides part which is a very important point.
So the long story short in a well controlled indoor grow environment you do not need to use any harmful pesticides because there's no bugs attacking your plants. This applies to both soil and hydro methods whilest growing outdoors is a constant battle against mites and buds eating your precious babies.
So organic still applies to indoor soil grow and to me at least implies no use of harmful chemicals but some places still add "with exceptions" statement at the end of their explanation:

"Organic foods are foods that are grown and processed using government-regulated farming methods. Organic farming and foods use: No synthetic fertilizers or pesticides (with exceptions)."

"Organic food is produced without artificial chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, or GMOs. It may have more nutrients, antioxidants, and omega-3 fatty acids than non-organic food, but the evidence is mixed."

This info about pests and pesticides is also completely wrong. Pests attack inside just as much as outside, and no growing method will stop this. Most growers use sprays up until the last few weeks of flower or as most organic growers do, they use predatory bugs to eradicate pestes such as spidermite, thrips, hops, springtails etc etc.

Sure they can infest an indoor grow which is why I added "in a well controlled enviroment". An honest good grower will throw away an infested room and sanitised it before restart. I've been there done that we never used any sprays. It can be done in a well controlled enviroment.

Spider mites are the number one reasons growers use indoor pesticides they literarily leave cobwebs covering your plants!

PGR’s were originally manufactured for industrial tomato’s growing industry. And have not been fully tested on the growing and consumption of Cannabis!

They are known to be carcinogenic best stay away if not growing tomatoes on industrial scales!

Please don't post claims without backing them up. Thank you

Reading this tells me you haven't got a clue about growing weed, the pictures above shows two different buds one whats been through a trimming machine. Pgr's have got harmful chemicals in them, using nutrients isn't pgr, pgr are used to bulk up the buds to get a higher yield.

My apologies I only grew on large scale for a decade so I have limited knowledge.
They are literally plant grow regulators not only used to bulk up the buds but all the way through. If they were harmful as you claim they would be banned from the shelves.

And yes they are sold as nutritients because that is what they are.
Once again there are exeptions but soon as they found out they are removed and banned from the shelves.

What an absolute load of nonsense.

"back then was grown in hydroponics (this grow method uses PGR)"

Back then? Hydroponics is still one of the most advanced types of growing, under neo grow techniques such as Aeroponics etc, but it's hardly a 90s phenomenon like Brain Adams ffs!! And NO, Hydroponics simply means water based, or without soil, more specifically 'hydro' meaning water and 'ponos' meaning labour.

H20 (or water) is pretty organic last time I checked.

"I'm not a doctor or anything"

Well, thank God for that.

"...but I beleive it's safe to say that PGR weed is just as safe as organic weed."

You have no real understanding or what either 'PGR' or 'Organic' in relation to cannabis cultivation actually means. There are many nutrients that could be classed as plant growth regulators, some natural, like PK 13/14 (phosphorous and potassium) or you might even say that seaweed and molasses "regulate" a plants growth and hence could be a "natural" PGR.

This is entirely different to synthetic chemicals, such as paclobutrazol and damizonode which are banned in the production of cannabis in California, and used heavily in the production of cannabis in South East Asia, in particular paclobutrazol, a carcinogen which produces very dense buds with little or no sugar leaves.

"My apologies I only grew on large scale for a decade so I have limited knowledge"

If that's the case I'd apologise to anyone who paid for your weed...

Never read such a load of jibberish than your posts on this thread. Stop pretending to be something you're not, because eventually you'll get called out by people who actually know what they are talking about.

No one said it was a 90's thing...
You will not grow shit with water alone, you need to add nutritiens a lot more than you would other wise add to soil that already has all the needed nutes.
No need to be offensive, all I wrote is true and I can back it up.

Pretty sure there’s even natural PGRs that can be used that don’t exchange quality for size