I think you're either a spiritually open minded person or you're not, i don't think weed has anything to do with it.

DMT, and (as Polly has said), mushrooms and even LSD might change a person's outlook on spirituality, but i doubt if weed can even come close.

I've known some very spiritual and lovely people who are completely drug and alcohol free, and some complete arseholes who smoke weed all day every day and are about as close to being spiritual as i am to being an elf.

I think it really depends upon the individual.

Just my 2p though.

Cheers. BB

Defo agree with this!!
Mental health challenges over the last 12 months have made me stop, reflect and really open my mind to appreciate everything around me down to the little things. Before this I wasn’t always present in the moment so less connected. I definitely feel more content the way I am now

Dunno mate…I’ve had ‘moments of clarity’ on weed that have stayed with me in a very positive way, I’m a drinker and often think I have moments of clarity on the booze, but (probably thankfully) they don’t withstand the sober lights of day 😉

Me and an old mate were convinced we came up with the best ideas when we were stoned, but we could never remember them so we set up a dictaphone (yeah i am that old!) and listened back to a session when we were sober.

Complete and utter jibberish. Worst ideas ever. It was actually comical how much nonsense we were chatting.

I'm certainly not saying everybody is the same but i think those moments are best left in the moment and (being a drinker myself too) the alcohol inspired ones even more so!

It's still a lot of fun trying to solve the worlds problems when slightly off kilter in one way or another though! Someone's got to do it... ;)

Cheers. BB

Excellent mate 🤩…BUT…when you are sober you scorn the drunk/high side of you and vice versa. Who’s to say which side is ‘right’?! Maybe the really sober dumb unenlightened side of us totally wrong and the high crazy drunk side the true us all along?
Wouldn’t that be something?
OK..I’m a bit high…

Funny how We always think of our true selves, (stripped from social and psychological strains) as rebellious, don’t you think? As in : the dumb side of us is the imposed artificial superficial layer which manifests 90% of the time and the high/drunk/crazy (though I prefer to call it rebellious) side of is who we are truly.

Am I the only person who thinks like that?

Certainly a cool idea! 😎

Just curious

What was your best worst idea bulldog?

I don't think there ever was a "best" idea, as I say they were all basically nonsense.

The vast majority essentially revolved around incredible, innovative business strategies to get mega rich, quick.

One of the few I can remember involved buying old ice cream vans and converting them into pasta vans, (because everyone loves pasta!) That kind of idea we would discuss for about 2 or 3 hours, whilst forgetting the whole "practicality" of hygiene certificates, boiling water in a van travelling around roundabouts, pasta needing to be cooked 'al dente' or any other of the numerous 'real world' aspects to that kind of venture.

It was basically all dreams with no real substance, but it was such great fun talking about it when we were high as kites, and even just listening back to it was a laugh. I wish I had kept the tapes but alas they've been lost, as with so many other things I should've kept hold of.

Fun times nonetheless. 💚

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

Brilliant! ….so there’s no problem with me stealing that idea?😂👍
Many many years ago my best mate and I were stoned and bemoaning the fact that life was passing us by (at 23, even though we had careers, good money and our own houses!!). We decided it would be a great idea to chuck it all in and buy a bar in Corfu.
Had we been drinking we would have woken up with a hangover unable to even care what bollocks we had been talking.
Our bar opened 4 months later and we lived there for 5 amazing years. It wasn’t an easy thing to do, in fact it was really really difficult (no EU rights back then) but a crazy stoned idea changed our lives forever- when we sold it that opened a lot more doors.
Fun times indeed! 🤩😎

We should've collaberated.

Pasta vans in Corfu.... 🤣🤣

"By this time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires..."

Seriously though, that must've been a lovely 5 years. Sounds like you had a great time there, fantastic stuff!

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

gold.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I think a lot of weed plus a little help from the environment can open a near psychedelic gateway. I tripped once just from a few bong-loads and a National Geographic map of the universe.

I’d say, as a drug, on the whole it’s more likely to challenge the ego than many others. The relationship with the ego being core to any sort of spirituality imo. There are so many variables though. Like BB says, plenty of arseholes who smoke 😂

Yup, you can put an arsehole in a blender and it still contains 100% arsehole.

Wow! I’m not even high! 😻😵‍💫

Cannabis aiding spirituality? The only aid I can see is that cannabis used with mushrooms seems to heighten the effect and reduce anxiety induced by high doses of psilocybin. Based on set and setting, a user can break free of stuck modalities of thought and enter the spirit world. In summary, cannabis can be an adjunct to creating a spiritual experience when combined with mushrooms

Haha 😆

Like British Bulldog said depends if your spiritual or how open ur mind is to seeing things differently which I would be myself nd spiritual floating when stoned always nice even if it's not too heaven 😂 if it's good enough for the rastas religion overall just makes you chill out nd relax I think that's what we all want from this crazy world. I'd imagine most people wouldn't think off it in a spiritual sense. I think if someone close to you dies when ur stoned cam feel them probably just ur minding wanting them back.

I take more of a humanist perspective these days so I struggle to say what being "spiritual" even means exactly.

That said, I think weed can give us something of a rush of joy and wonder that can help appreciate and reframe stuff. Also, a deeper interest in things we might otherwise not have noticed: not always a good thing, e.g. when you think truly banal things are profound. Sometimes it helps reach a more introspective viewpoint. This last one can be damaging if you allow yourself to become a navel-gazing, reclusive stoner though ... at least that has been the case for me: everyone is different I guess.

Where it may also hamper personal development is where you use it to avoid or put off difficult emotions until later: definitely been guilty of this one too.

Very good points imo Father👍
Feeling good and/or feeling good about yourself albeit weed induced is a far healthier perspective to consider the bigger picture from. I know I come out with some right bollocks when I’m high, but that’s the point- I do KNOW it and find it hilarious. I watch friends on the booze (or nothing at all) and the same bollocks is deadly serious and deadly boring…
I’m happy to get stoned alone and have on the odd occasion found my navel fascinating, but without negative outcomes. But like you say, we are all different. I suppose regardless of the intoxicants, the person that you start with is still there at the finish….😉😎

👍👍
Mushrooms are probably better 🤷‍♂️ but yeah I can certainly see the spiritual mists start to clear when I’m high…depends on the strain/type though- can we have suggestions for best strain for a spiritual awakening? 👍🥹😍

I’d love this too 👆
I definitely find myself in moments of feeling more connected with myself and more aware of colours and sounds around me. I love a smoke while I’m out walking with the dog, paddling in the Irish Sea

Being in nature and around animals stoned is the best , specially when the fishies start talking to ya :D

Never tried them mushrooms! But the right one can certainly take you even further than the Fairy land :D

Your not gonna like it but to be more spiritual,enlightened is to be as pure as you can be,no marijuana or drugs of any kind,also be truthful to yourself and othe beings.

Hehe lot of loopholes in that argument buddy surely?
I can argue that as a plant cannabis is as much a joy of nature as a lettuce. It’s as pure a gift from God as anything else. Only we choose to refer to it as a drug and only some societies still deem it bad or illegal. Throw those man made labels away and maybe it’s the finest tool to finding spiritual enlightenment that exists….why not?…in what way does it strip my ‘purity’ away? 🤔😉

Lettuce was a cheap gift from God, she went all out with cannabis.

Hehe…yeah, some of the gifts were from celestial Asda, some from celestial Waitrose…it’s the natural order of things😂

In the enlightened state as they call it,you need nothing,you have achieved bliss..

Also, if you know how, the body is capable of producing its own cannabinoids.

That's why we have thc receptors in the body

Look at Sadhguru
He's 60 odd yrs old
Complexion of a baby
Always stoned
Living the dream

To answer directly no it does not. spiritual growth solely comes from within, in the sense that connectivity to you mind body and energy need to be retained and an awareness kept throughout all interactions in present.

If you are looking for a spiritual awakening, find a reputable shaman and attend an Ayahuasca tea ceremony, a genuine one. I am going to try shrooms soon, something I've always been interested in and having done a couple of ceremonies I will throw myself in at deep end with shrooms, happy to report back after.

Don't kid yourselves about weed. It can aid but very much indirectly and I'm certain you would arrive at a spiritual awakening much sooner with a sober body mind energy. There's a reason why most spiritual undertaking require you to be sober.

no weed (especially edibles) helps you find it and stay there but
yes this isn't going to happen for everyone or every time. it's still your cpu running.

you're gonna love shrooms k, bon trip.

Mmmh.. I like the things you said.. I also liked that someone else mentioned how weed challenges the ego - that’s so true!! I still sustain that for most cases weed does aid spiritual growth, in my own humble opinion, because if anything it calms people down and that has been a must for every human being in this planet including myself “Calm down..”

Ayahuasca ceremonies are something else different all together. First of all the Shaman guiding the ceremony has to be authentic. Never tried but will someday definitely!
I’d love to hear the mushroom experience..! Just make sure to throw yourself up and high with it. Peace!

The Ascended Master Bhagwan Rajneesh says that marijuana can give you a glimpse of the beyond… I agree with Him considering that it is factual that the sometimes miraculous herb can open you up to higher states of consciousness..!

Finding Biggy was a spiritual awakening for me 😂

Jet from gladiators was a spiritual awaking for me.