depends on what the dollar does...

I hear what your saying mate but how long does it stay viable for biggas to buy if BTC keeps going through the roof. Weed is only going to be able to go up so much. Majority of buyers will avoid sky high prices after a while or just go back to the fucking about of using their own local suppliers. Anyway its just a point I thought might be interesting to raise. All the best!

Do you mean a Q for $95? $95 for an 1/8th seems unreasonably high. The reason hash is so expensive right now is because it's a lot harder to import from Spain/Morocco. The suppliers have also increased the price and the time to deliver is a lot longer, therefore we see a price hike on here as well. I'm sure some people are hiking the price purely for profit, but a lot of it is also justified. It will all normalize but I wouldn't expect it to happen anytime soon mate.

Yeah mate I meant what I said 3.5g for $95 its not hard to find if you look through items mate. I know there is a pandemic and the price of transport will go up but does not justify the price hike. And you answer as if people aren't sitting on stuff already mate. Ok explain the rise in the price of bud going crazy? Are water rates and electricity prices through the roof in times of crisis. Did royal mail triple their prices for delivery? I said during desperate times people can make more profit to keep a service going that is fine by me. I just want vendors to know we aren't (all) idiots. So vendors keep charging an ever increasing fortune if you can get away with it. Fair play to you who are doing it. Just remember you will lose normal customers if they think you are taking the piss for too long! Cheers for the reply but I was really trying to make a statement based on a rhetorical question. And again I want to thank all the fair vendors who's keeping it real in times of chaos!

You should really try to get to know your vendors, there are some on here who really care about their product, and whilst you may see every now and again a top tag item, you should, and I say should, be able to trust them (your regular vendor) enough that it will be worth your money, and if its not, how they rectify the issue will show you how much they value your custom.
Saying that, it is all personal preference, one mans trash is another mans treasure, so each issue should be dealt on a case by case basis.

Good Luck

GF

Thanks for the reply. You are right it is all based on preference and I do have some vendors on here I am very happy with. But I also know a quality smoke when I try it. Just like most of us! I am just worried after corona the prices will stay inflated. Its like an old school dry up and the prices going up after it. Honestly man some of the prices on here for a bit of smoke are eye watering! Such is life and it is a sellers market I suppose! All the best!

Skinnyman dropped one of the best UK rap albums (council estate of mind).

Agreed. One of the best ever.

Damn, forgot about this.. will be on that tomorrow!

Tru dat
If i make thru the night i'd be surprised i'd be surprised is still one of my favs

Agreed big up skinny

I’m old so I’d argue Kalashnekoff, Fallacy or pretty much half of the old mud fam (skinny, Chester), got to give a mention for doc brown though, new album is nice, still going

Fucking love a bit of k-lash tho... it’s murda, black rose etc yeah... gonna bang that parrowdice album like NOW lol

Yeh that K-lash album was a banger, actually gave it another listen not long ago and it’s still a fucking banger. I’d say any from K-lash, Kano, Taskforce and Jehst.

shed you know the deal lol! but there is no way we can put this down to ONE best uk rapper, Klash & terra firma... MUD fam, That arab uk guy from deal real days cant remember his name but TOP lyricist, Too many to mention TBH,

Shit even used to bump pound sterling and RSG. So much styles in the UK rap scene over the last 15 years its hard to say whos the number 1!

I love doc Brown's music, but the guy's an arsehole

K-lash though, man he can rap!! Even the young'uns love his stuff too

He had some absolutely bangers tbf citizen Smith vol 2 no more said

That parrowdice album is absolutely timeless never get bored of listening to it, pound sterling use to like some of his stuff from back in the day? Can you remember channel u, that was on sky, had all the upcoming young english talent, use to watch religiously, use to have some mad guys on there!!!!

Great shout there - were you also a Yungun fan? He’s back with new stuff under ‘Essa’ - still awesome! Also used to bang Universal Soldiers every single day - going to put it on now in fact, happy Friday all!

Yungun! Yeah man, he had a phat album with Mr Thing called GMB (grown man business) and he got a song on there called 'peter pan syndrome' which actually makes my heart bleed.... that dude is an entertainment lawyer now!

Top album!! Yeah man that’s crazy isn’t it!! Wiccaman theory by Chester P used to get me like that! The ten pound bag mixtapes were brilliant too. Loving this thread, now reminded me of how much I love Dabbla and LDZ, having a great day :D

Ten pound baaaaagggg...oh my days... the problem with smoking so much weed is I forget too much music lol...damn, louis slipperz on the mix...some of the beats of those were mind-wreckingly phat...man, I got to dig those out...yeah, loving this thread too man, nice to know I'm not the only one still rocking out Taskforce and Skinnyman and shit...oh shit...Sway...remember that cat? He did the tune over the car racing tune..ah shit...memory lol...I know the one, think it was called 'up your speed', so many bangers lost to the pit of my weeded memory lol...

Hahaha mate 100% the same!! Weeded memory sucks!! Yeah I’d completely forgotten about Sway! Flo’ Fashion was an absolute banger as well!!

Anything off that album was fantastic.

Download still cracks me up when he's talking about going to an Internet cafe to find a man named kazaa haha.

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii give yooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu, bluebells... The memories!

Agree with pretty much all of the below suggestions.

Recently found this banger by Kano, D double E and Ghetts.... Such a tune, such great energy... Real uk OG's. Kano's got the longevity

... enjoy ...

Kano is tremendous live too. And so is d double e....ghetts is passable but compared to the other 2 he falls short in my eyes. I've seen all 3 of them perform multiple times

Yeah that live performance is sick!

Didn’t even need to play this via link got this one backed up on the old I tunes... Badabapbap!!! Big tune

Akala for the win. Definitely NOT Skinnyman... Although I did like Council Estate of Mind.

Jehst..lyrically stunning and his delivery unrivalled!

OLDsKoOl... Return of the drifter was an epic album.. still gets alot of play in my dojo lol! How could we forget Jehst!

You like braintax too?

Anyone remember roots manuva?

Witness the fitness!!! Legend

taskmaster burst the bionic zit spitter, break neck speeds we drown 10 pints of bitter.

classic

Movements

Yup

Gotta be klashnekoff, that mans next level!!!!

Still listen to “sagas of kalashnekoff”. If anyone is wondering, the film used for the skits is “Babylon”. A great film, its like a reggae “commitments”

Every Thursday at 7pm we should all go outside and start shouting "can't take no more of that"

Hahahahaha yessssss man!!!!

You sir are a genius.

Definitely gonna check that out, nice one!!

Boom!
K, lash your rasclart neck off

Split you in half like a gum blast from lennox!!! LENNOX!!!

Get dropped on your doorstep like Dando. Who writes that haha?

That black cunt outta stokie, banana mango munching monkey, ill kick off ya door like jumanji!!! Hahahaha that guy!!!

FOCUS MODE "This is hot shit! You don't know silly, come on buy that"

Chester P in my opinion. I'll never sell my early TaskForce vinyl

Love a bit of Chester and early Task Force... Great shout!

Rodney P’s got to be on this list!!

Fliptrix, Chester P, Akala, Lowkey and skinny man... Can't really claim one is better than the other, they have all reached maxed skill in their unique styles

Glad to see someone get fliptrix in there. Saw him and skinny man live at subterranea just before lockdiwn and its unreal how much stage presence fliptrix has...and he's a fucking giant lol

I'm younger than some on this thread so don't know too many old school UK rappers. Mainly like old American rappers/mcs from the 90s, but would also give a vote to skinny man. Council Estate of mind is one my favourite albums of all time and its criminal he's not better known (In the mainstream).

If we're talking about modern day.. casisdead is currently the best in the scene/UK in my opinion, bar none. Can't wait for his new album to drop.

Kano

Def a personal favourite. Don’t think he’s made an average album and seen him live a couple times and never disappointed.

As much as I properly love late 90s/early 200s UKHH, I have to say that Dabbla is right up there for me.

LDZ, Dead Players, his stuff on HF, and his solo albums on Potent Funk, he's kept it fresh, pushed hard and spits like nobody else. His wordplay is incredible.

Dabbla isassivley slept on. Psychoville is a masterpiece

wondered when dabbla was gonna get a mention..

Hmmmm, Good question man, Jehst is up there for me.. But, with the new school vibes of like Ocean Wisdom, Verb-T. I’m not sure anymore :)

Top reply that! Early Jehst is hard to beat in my book! Chester P also up there - more recently loving Lee Scott (by no means would class him as UKs greatest but he’s a personal fav of mine :)

Chester P is also a bloody lovely bloke to boot. A carer these days and seems.to have his head properly screwed on

Chester P for mayor!!

Ches is a fucking dude...he dropped one of the hottest 'fire in the street' freestyles ever...dude is deep as fuck, massive respect for him.

MC Pitman ftw!

Loooool...Witness the Pitness.....ah man, forgot all about him

Second that!

ches don't like MF doom he says hes a traitor to the uk scene but MF's perants moved to the US he had no choice and i just think ches is bitter and jelouse he never got what MF doom did ..

Ocean wisdom I think has one of the best flows in the UK scene Verb-T perfect for a heavy zoot and a relax

Dave for me. His lyrics and musical ability is unrivalled imo

Silver Bullet, hands down is the best UK rapper (really showing my age). 20 Seconds was good but 'Bring forth the Guillotine' is a classic.

Some greats already mentioned! but Dizzie rascal has to be in there for me! . Stefflon don , Jaykae and Bugzy Malone have some tunes too. Could be cheating but 21 savage as well I’m sure I saw he was from Newham originally?

So many of these roads lead right back to DIzzie

I think he is you know!!! Who was the the other mc how was orginally in the newham generals, cant remember his name to stoned!!! Haha, ive even seen him live aswell at show at london dungeons, my mate won vip ticketsto see them and dizzee and jammer!!! Only 200 people whata fucking night that was!!! Still cant remeber his name!!! Haha

Monkstar!!!! I knew i get it in the end!! Haha he was sick

Bullet from a guuuuuuunnnnn!!! Derek B was the fucking man, he must have been one of my first UK hip hop heroes! Ahhh, this brings back memories..who remembers Normski?! Cannot for the life of me remember the show he had on tv for a while but I fucking loved it...

Was it called Def 2 on BBC 2?

Ooooh, that rings a bell...really can't pull it out of my brain, Normski was the presenter and it was literally the only thing on tv that had any flavour at all, was late on a Friday night iirc

Wretch 32 for technicality

f you're talking the hardest..

Slick Rick

Uk rapper lmao

Born and raised in London before moving to the US lmao

Mic righteous??????

Showing my age ( and probably giving away that I’m more of a guitar guy ) but The Streets first album is awesome

I think for me it’s Potter Payper if you want that real rap but grime wise I’m going to say Ghetts.

No one shuts down a race like d double,
But ghetts is definitely the best lyricist in grime

Roots manuva

All completely subjective but

Kano is my all-time favourite.

Boy in da corner was a groundbreaking album, and has stood the test of time (still sounds amazing to this day) so Dizzee has to have a place on the UK rap Mount Rushmore.

Also high ratings and much love for Klashnekoff, JME, Sway, Devlin, and Roots Manuva.

1/2 the other candidates wouldnt have existed without Dizzee

It’s gotta be Skepta or Dizzee man!

Nothing touches Konichiwa, Boy in da corner or Showtime.. nothing!

Dave

Ty (RIP my bro), Skinny, Manuva. Orifice.

Funky DL (Old school) & Wretch 32 (Nu School)

For skill, Harry shotta. Me personally. Then Kalashnekov dizzee and the streets. A grand don’t come for free was a masterpiece

Honestly I think chipmunk will beat any UKrapper in a clash. Past or present

GHETTS' LATEST ALBUM SERIOUSLY MAKING ME CONSIDER HIM THE UK GOAT

HIM AND KANO ARE PROBABLY THE BEST DUO THIS COUNTRY EVERY PRODUCED

JME all day. Showing my age now.
Rating Ocean Wisdom atm tho
Far too many good ones to list on here tho.

JME is good but I think Skepta takes it for me man

Double S rap dis tho <<<<

So many to choose from such as Ghetto but I'm gonna have to go for his old mate Kano. Special place in my heart for that donny.

kanot sorry, but i'm open to you convincing me otherwise

Yeah technically Kano is a master... but never liked his style

I get what you mean I'm mainly on about his first shit after that he got annoying as fuck when he switched his style tbh lol

It’s all a bit mid 2000s Roll Deep etc. Good proving grounds for the future, some good MCs came out of it, but in itself it’s pretty shit. I mean compare that to some Wu Tang shit, which I guess would be the New York streets equivalent 15 years earlier... doesn’t even compare.

Not the most original post, but if what I read on the internet it true, then I would say MF DOOM, (apparently born in London).

MF Doom - Rap
Trim - Grime

To be honest, there isn't one, it's so hard to choose just one when there's so much talent out there.

I know he doesn’t rap anymore, but Plan B in his prime was exceptional. The Paint it Blacker Mixtape is one of my all time favourites

Ali g of course

Ocean Wisdom all the way

Ting done bro nuff said..

Not a fan of him as a person but Slowthai has been doing some really good stuff for a while now deserves a mention. Loyle Carner also I think Lyrically is very nice

Surely it's Moss Side's very own MC Tunes

There are plenty contenders, but considering quality of his music, duration of career, significance/legacy etc, I think you need to go a long way to better Kano as one of the greats in the UK.

Lowkey, songs banned in USA raided by mi5 no one can match his word play only guy to do chip in a beef. Too real too intelligent.

Lowkey is a lyrical god for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW99Uks8LzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW99Uks8LzE
just noticed the spice girls sample in this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ7tteBYkVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAYKE3yDPaM

Dutty goodz is the king for me, chester p, lowkey,akala are also faves, and ocean wisdom for technicality, not so keen on his content but he's got very diverse flows and spot-on delivery.

Cashtasic

Not saying he's the best but he defo up there can't believe no one shouted out MR Traumatik, he's a fucking savage 😄

Wretch for his insane wordplay

Caveman.

https://youtu.be/It3lwHN6Sj8

elder; crazy t, wiley, killa p, flowdan, riko dan, trim, dizzee, tempz
younger; kyeza, rocks foe, faultsz, K9, mez, saint p

stress on kyeza and rocks foe

No mention of Devlin, for shame LB.

Check his fire in the booth B)

Devs aint even a rapper.. grime spitter. Never even done rap or hip hop. No wonder. Jimmy.

i find it funny how many grime artist are mentioned in this thread as being rappers XD

Ok can deffo help here man....

Firstly portable or home only use?
Electric/battery or butane/flame
Do you want to replicate a spliff or a bong? So session or on demand, one hitter?

To your questions...

Any weed, dry, moist all does the job, slightly on the dryer side is preferable imo.

Yes it gets you high.... it is a different high though, less body more cerebral and clear imo.

Yeah it still smells but diff vaporisers give off doffernt smells, some still very much smell of weed some not so much so if stealth is important then take that into consideration.

Weed usage is an odd one, generally deffo a lot less but I do find myself having far more sessions with my vapes now than when I used to smoke joints, I’d say I use the same amount of weed a day but I’m stoned for a larger proportion of the day if that makes sense.

I’ve got 2 of the best vapes available right now in my view, the Mighty is a beast session vape that’s almost been able to replace joints for me and a Flowerpot desktop that just gets you fucking ripped off so little material, just my view on making the journey is pay up from day one cos you’ll end up in the end anyways... cheap vapes are shit, they’ll put you off and class all vapes as shit, exactly what I did till I got my flowerpot then I realised that combustion is actually shit. Get the best you can from day one and enjoy man.